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mrcuban Game profile

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Jul 18th 2017, 2:31:15

?

Havoc Game profile

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Jul 18th 2017, 3:01:05

they failed some on omega
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Joey- Game profile

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Jul 18th 2017, 6:30:44

yes how is this even a viable strat? he lost most spies than tech gained.

mrcuban Game profile

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Jul 18th 2017, 10:16:56

I'd actually like to know more about spy and tech. I have 1.4m spies and 500k spy tech and I still bounce single ops on bots...

Mean while a much smaller guy with less spy's and much leass spy tech can do 99% success ops

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Jul 18th 2017, 11:25:06

Not 310 but about 20-30 spal is great for bots.


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Joey- Game profile

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Jul 18th 2017, 11:52:54

Originally posted by mrcuban:
I'd actually like to know more about spy and tech. I have 1.4m spies and 500k spy tech and I still bounce single ops on bots...

Mean while a much smaller guy with less spy's and much leass spy tech can do 99% success ops


it depends on the spies to land ratio. higher ratio always wins.
e.g.Country A: 10k land with 500k spies = 500,000/10,000= 50spal
Country B: 2k land with 200k spies = 200,000/2,000= 100spal

so B's OPs will always get through since the spal is higher.

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Jul 18th 2017, 13:09:36

he failed 2 on me today
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Buch Game profile

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Jul 18th 2017, 13:10:11

Not always

WArriOR Game profile

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Jul 18th 2017, 13:52:07

Steal tech :D !!!
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Prac Game profile

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Jul 18th 2017, 14:09:15

bonus

Joey- Game profile

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Jul 18th 2017, 14:45:47

Originally posted by Buch:
Not always


Yes correct, dunno why i wrote always..

DerrickICN Game profile

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Jul 18th 2017, 15:37:54

He went a long time before he started failing ops but as the servers caught up in spal, his production could meet the demands.

At the time we originally found #310, his production was such that he needed to SELL around 1100 tech points per turn taken. This was over a week ago.

Estimations for him stealing an average of 4k points thru the beginning of the set implied anywhere from 600-1000 ops at a minimum to have the money and output that he did.

If it was 600 ops at a minimum a week ago, its probably well over a thousand now. I feel like personally hes done about 6 on me based purely on nw changes when ive had tech stolen.

If he's done that many ops, he's done them to all of us a good amount of times. He had 900 spal but with the recent fails hes having and the massive builds of the warclans reaching their peak, he's got to start to feel limited.

My guess is officially around 1300-1500 commit espionage ops this set.

IgnitionCWG Game profile

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Jul 18th 2017, 15:49:04

Ballsy move, he should be dead if we weren't at war already
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Hel_TKS Game profile

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Jul 19th 2017, 10:15:26

Why is nobody killing him?

sinistril Game profile

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Jul 19th 2017, 10:33:20

Would you kill a man for liberating tech from those who do not take precautions to keep it? He is doing a public service.
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Jul 19th 2017, 13:59:47

Its prob Nukevil
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drkprinc Game profile

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Jul 19th 2017, 14:44:27

Originally posted by Joey-:
Originally posted by mrcuban:
I'd actually like to know more about spy and tech. I have 1.4m spies and 500k spy tech and I still bounce single ops on bots...

Mean while a much smaller guy with less spy's and much leass spy tech can do 99% success ops


it depends on the spies to land ratio. higher ratio always wins.
e.g.Country A: 10k land with 500k spies = 500,000/10,000= 50spal
Country B: 2k land with 200k spies = 200,000/2,000= 100spal

so B's OPs will always get through since the spal is higher.


no always entirely correct the amount of spies also affects the outcome, but ratio is the main pushing factor

2 countries with close spal or even as well at 100 spal each but the one with more spies has the better spy power. even one with 80 spal vs 100 spal if the one with 80 spal is significantly higher in spies just has more land they will have the upperhand by quantity.
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Joey- Game profile

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Jul 19th 2017, 18:20:59

Originally posted by drkprinc:
Originally posted by Joey-:
Originally posted by mrcuban:
I'd actually like to know more about spy and tech. I have 1.4m spies and 500k spy tech and I still bounce single ops on bots...

Mean while a much smaller guy with less spy's and much leass spy tech can do 99% success ops


it depends on the spies to land ratio. higher ratio always wins.
e.g.Country A: 10k land with 500k spies = 500,000/10,000= 50spal
Country B: 2k land with 200k spies = 200,000/2,000= 100spal

so B's OPs will always get through since the spal is higher.


no always entirely correct the amount of spies also affects the outcome, but ratio is the main pushing factor

2 countries with close spal or even as well at 100 spal each but the one with more spies has the better spy power. even one with 80 spal vs 100 spal if the one with 80 spal is significantly higher in spies just has more land they will have the upperhand by quantity.


Thanks for that man. That explains why the guy failed a few times and also why my ops get through on some higher spal countries. I assume the probability of that happening is low?

Marshal Game profile

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Jul 19th 2017, 20:31:29

Originally posted by LittleItaly:
Its prob Nukevil


unlikely, nukevil would be cherrypicking kills instead stealing techs as demo.
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Y-NoT Game profile

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Jul 19th 2017, 22:36:30

Bad boy

mrcuban Game profile

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Jul 20th 2017, 22:13:03

The spy thing is still broken?

I have a Intel ally. He has 20k more acres, I now have 1.6m spy's with 600k spy tech. He only has 600k spies and less tech. 310# failed on him, but never failed on me....

What am I doing wrong ?

mrcuban Game profile

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Jul 20th 2017, 22:14:06

*we are same govt type

Marshal Game profile

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Jul 20th 2017, 22:39:34

its randomness of game.
Patience: Yep, I'm with ELK and Marshal.

ELKronos: Patty is more hairy.

Gallery: K at least I am to my expectations now.

LadyGrizz boobies is fine

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Mini Game profile

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Jul 20th 2017, 22:50:04

Isn't Spal just an indicator of possible success rate? Ideally if you have a higher spal & more spies you have a better chance at getting a successful op, but not guaranteed?

Unlike Landgrabbing where you calculate a break for the 100% guarantee of breaking defences. Spies have a random chance of fail/success? Your just more likely to be successful if you have more Spies @ higher spal no?

Mister Ed Game profile

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Jul 21st 2017, 0:17:57

Hi

justtaint

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Jul 21st 2017, 3:17:18

10% oversend will succeed 99% of the time. Mehul always get his in the end.
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Marshal Game profile

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Jul 21st 2017, 14:20:44

no 100% guarantee (except with big oversend) on lgs.

spying has chance that lower spal (amount of spies incl) gets op (or 2) thru to higher spal (incl spies amount) country and same with other way around that bigger spaller fails to get op on lower spaller.
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Rasp Game profile

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Jul 21st 2017, 18:42:36

Anyone find it interesting he had an intel pact with OMA?

310
Intel Alliances: King (#50) (OMA)
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mrcuban Game profile

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Jul 21st 2017, 21:37:42

Hmnm that is interesting. Is #50 now dead ?

mrcuban Game profile

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Jul 21st 2017, 21:40:14

I think I've lost about 180k tech points... 19 x avg 9k+. Tech points stolen per turn... :( not one fail on me... Lucky my Intel ally had two fail with almost exact same time.

But I wonder why I should have 1.5m+ spy's and 700k spy tech if he hasnt failed once..

Marshal Game profile

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Jul 21st 2017, 21:50:18

yes all omas are now restarts.
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ELKronos: Patty is more hairy.

Gallery: K at least I am to my expectations now.

LadyGrizz boobies is fine

NOW3P: Morwen is a much harsher mistress than boredom....

Suicidal Game profile

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Jul 22nd 2017, 2:22:01

4BR - Gutty (#49) [Elders] -> Sativdica (#310) [] 8C 16B

drkprinc Game profile

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Jul 22nd 2017, 10:30:53

Originally posted by mrcuban:
I think I've lost about 180k tech points... 19 x avg 9k+. Tech points stolen per turn... :( not one fail on me... Lucky my Intel ally had two fail with almost exact same time.

But I wonder why I should have 1.5m+ spy's and 700k spy tech if he hasnt failed once..



You are just unlucky LOL he could of ran 100 ops without failing in a span of couple days or failed them all miserably, you got the former it seems.
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Dissident Game profile

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Jul 23rd 2017, 6:36:50

hes dead now. youre welcome.

mrcuban Game profile

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Jul 30th 2017, 23:05:57

Thanks daddy