Holy Crap, Shaw Internet- not what i expected

qzjul

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May 27th 2011, 7:27:47

but welcome!

http://www.dslreports.com/...ndles-Unlimited-Bandwidth

yay unlimited plans! yay 250 Mbps DL

BOO bundling! BOO low UL (percentage wise... 15 up is not *baaad* tho)

And howabout IPv6? they're not even going to mention that... heh

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May 27th 2011, 7:29:56

wow, that fluffs all over australian internet :\

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AoS

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May 27th 2011, 7:30:14

qz is a nerd.

The dreamer is banished to obscurity.

Ozzite

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May 27th 2011, 10:50:05

welcome back to the 21st century, kinda ;p

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iNouda

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May 27th 2011, 13:17:17

Wow, makes me cry when I look at my 2mbps interwebs... :(

king7012

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May 27th 2011, 13:22:25

I miss having shaw lol. Being in the country the only internet we can get is a mobile stick or satellite. Neither are any good lol

Galandy

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May 27th 2011, 13:23:38

shaw is satellite isnt it?

Satellite connections isnt going to give anywhere NEAR that speed and if its DSL its impossible.

If its fiber then you'll have to wait god knows how long for them to update the lines and if they are anything like bell that wont be for years yet unless your a new sub division.

I wouldnt hold your breath QZ.

If it is true i may become your new neighbour though and move in with mom in edmonton :P

<[FBI]ZEN> Which is funny...because I am Spanish and Native American mixed....which means I am a Mexican....
<Galandy>move to canada ZEN everyone else does
<[FBI]ZEN> And breed with a Quebecian
<[FBI]ZEN> To make the ultimate snob/migrant worker

Azz Kikr

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May 27th 2011, 13:25:20

shaw is cable

king7012

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May 27th 2011, 13:29:27

Shaw also has a sat company (shaw Direct)

Azz Kikr

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May 27th 2011, 13:49:22

the pertinent shaw is cable :P doubt they're pulling that sort of speed over a sat link

Galandy

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May 27th 2011, 13:58:46

Shaw is cable? Ive never known them to be cable TBH and they only exsist in ontario as satellite.

Azz Kikr

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May 27th 2011, 14:12:32

http://shaw.ca/Internet/About/

Azz Kikr

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May 27th 2011, 14:14:47

also not sure where qz is, but i know they're in alberta as cable. and apparently they're doing trials of fiber to the home in vancouver. so they're quite certainly not *just* a sat company.

Galandy

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May 27th 2011, 14:28:13

qz is in edmonton near my mom. my mom uses rogers though i think?

martian

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May 27th 2011, 14:32:28

doubtful that your mom uses rogers for cable given that only shaw operates in alberta as cable.

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martian

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May 27th 2011, 14:32:57

on the otherhand I"m switching to
http://www.techsavvy.com

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Galandy

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May 27th 2011, 14:52:33

she uses rogers for internet. She is east of teh edd mon tun.

she has to use that rural bullfluff

H4xOr WaNgEr

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May 27th 2011, 15:15:24

they don't only exist in Ontario as satellite.
They are the cable provider in select regions (Burlington and Hamilton, for example).

Shaw used to have a big chunk of the Ontario market in the 80's and earlier. I remember we used to have shaw cable when I was a kid, but one day it all converted to Rogers. Shaw and Rogers made a deal where Rogers would stay out of the west and Shaw would for the most part stay out of the east.

Havoc

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May 27th 2011, 15:15:42

teksavvy.com* martian.

I had rogers at my house at school this year but it pissed me off all year, gonna see if I can get teksavvy this year, hoping it's available in Guelph.. I'd kill for unlimited bandwidth, Rogers charged like $5 bucks/gb for going over..

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Galandy

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May 27th 2011, 15:41:50

im switching to teksavvy as well. Ordering it tonight.

Round about 200$ to switch over though so be prepared for initial cost.

100 for modem
10 for shipping
25 for set up
54 first months bill

Then of course the ridiculous taxes we need to now pay. However for myself personally it will save me 30$ a month from rogers PLUS i wont take it up the ass when i go over 80GB like i do with rogers.

Well worth it if ya ask me.

Havoc

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May 27th 2011, 16:01:30

Yeah, I was paying $87/month for the best internet Rogers offered, plus the occasional ridiculous over limit fee. Connection also went down a lot and was a lot slower than advertised..

Hmm, with Rogers..

8 months x 87 = $696..

With teksavvy
8 months x 54 = 432 + 135 for initial costs = $567 + taxes?

Do you know what the taxes are like?

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Galandy

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May 27th 2011, 16:03:25

ill let you know tonight after i order what the grand total being charged to the card is once its all figured out.

Havoc

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May 27th 2011, 16:26:02

kk thanks

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Marco

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May 27th 2011, 16:30:45

Actually fios fiber is already kind of obsolete, new installs are getting wireless fios, fiber in its current form is too expensive to install and maintain. At least as of my mother retiring from verizon fios a few months ago.

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May 27th 2011, 16:34:35

...wireless fios?

doesn't the "fi" in "fios" stand for "fiber optic"?

how the hell do you have wireless fiber

Havoc

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May 27th 2011, 16:36:17

string theory

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qzjul

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May 27th 2011, 16:51:28

Galandy: ya, shaw is the only cable in alberta; if your mom is using rogers, she's doing it via mobile, because the only DSL is Telus; rogers does have some "air stick" which is basically a cell phone data plan that you can plug your computer in, for people way out in the middle of nowhere...

wireless fios makes no sense; fios == fibre; wireless == wireless; the two can't meet!

I want fios! but increased shaw speeds are a good start...

And also, fios isn't obsolete.. it isn't even rolled out to 99% of people in North America... fiber optic can scale to 1Gbps relatively easily, so you can't possibly say that is obsolete... unless you have an OC48 or something like that... (backbone level speed...)

Edited By: qzjul on May 27th 2011, 16:54:05
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Marco

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May 27th 2011, 16:54:38

Its actually fiber to the premise, your home would still be wired but think of the fios network as one giant router. Your home connects to the wireless fios box then that connects to the fios network. Fiber has been run in buildings long before "fios" was around. Fios was the idea of making a completley fiber network, much cheaper to just run the fiber in your home home then have it connect restlessly, similar idea as wimax if you're familiar with that.

Marco

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May 27th 2011, 17:00:29

Obsolete wasn't a good word to use, as far as I was told verizon was abandoning the complete fiber network, and going fiber to wireless to save on costs involved in laying and splicing underground cables.

qzjul

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May 27th 2011, 17:00:47

but... that defeats the purpose of fios; the purpose of fios is to have *really fast speeds*

wireless can't deliver that... n is what, 108Mb ? "theoretical" (in practice usually *much* less, call it 50Mb)

it'd be much faster if you plugged it into a Gb router or switch...

I use Gb ethernet between my computeres here, and I can tell you it's a *HUUUGE* improvement over 100Mb... especially when streaming 1080p videos for example...

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Marco

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May 27th 2011, 17:01:41

Could be wrong, just what I was told.

qzjul

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May 27th 2011, 17:02:53

no i believe you, it sounds like something they'd do... but they'd basically be selling you more capacity than you could use...

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Havoc

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May 27th 2011, 17:03:07

Gb router?

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qzjul

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May 27th 2011, 17:04:00

yea... a router that can handle 1 Gb speeds... ie over 100Mb (what many are still)

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Marco

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May 27th 2011, 17:05:32

I've always been under the impression foods capable is not the same as offered limits, meaning I don't believe a fiber potential is even offered as a plan. I'll ask big momma, fios is all she did for the last few years. She was one of the first few in nj trained for fios.

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May 27th 2011, 17:06:51

qz, i don't think you'd be overstating it to say your gb router is an order of magnitude better than your 100mb :P

Marco

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May 27th 2011, 17:09:35

my gb router is worthless to me, I don't use it to its potential and my cable certainly doesn't keep up.

AoS

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May 27th 2011, 17:23:57

I got a stern, thorough talking to about my nerd comment. I didn't know Canadians could get angry :)

The dreamer is banished to obscurity.

qzjul

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May 27th 2011, 21:44:06

Marco: you do if you transfer files or stream between computers on your LAN... that's what it's really for...

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Marco

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May 27th 2011, 22:46:09

qz I have
1 gateway media pc
1 vaio
1 -those fluffty laptops that dr dre advertised with built in sub?
1-sony my dash alarm clock
1-bluray player
Ps3, 360, wii
Mine and brothers phones and my iTouch all hitting wifi or hardwired, and basically everything is set up as media servers. Lots of back and forth between all the systems all through a cisco e3000? Been a few years since I bought it, whatever the top end series is. Most user friendly router I've ever seen. Still don't think I'm coming close to half potential.

Marco

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May 27th 2011, 22:48:16

Was like 700 $ when I bought it, why did I but that model? I wanted to male my router wouldn't lag my online games. Only to lag constantly because psn sucks

qzjul

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May 27th 2011, 23:12:38

The biggest difference I noticed tbh was seek speed; if you click around in a movie you're watching over the network, it's instant on Gb; but on 100Mb it takes like 1 second to buffer before it will continue playing...

and 100Mb can't handle the 1080p movies that aren't super-compressed...

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Marco

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May 27th 2011, 23:20:12

Never noticed tbh
Approx. 800 gb of movies and another 2-300gigs of music are floating around my network

Havoc

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May 30th 2011, 18:17:14

update Galandy?

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Loafer

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May 30th 2011, 18:26:35

gz?

Galandy

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May 30th 2011, 18:58:12

Cable Service $42.95
Activation $24.95
Modem $99.00
Shipping $10.00

HST: $23.00
Subtotal: $176.90
Total: $199.90

Galandy

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May 30th 2011, 19:01:02

i did the cheaper service for the first month. From there i will gage if it will be enough or if i will need to pay the additional 12 a month for unlimited.

7 Days minimum to get it hooked up, however i was able to choose to have the service transferred from my previous ISP which means i wont need to cancel or piss around with rogers. Just drop off the modem when its hooked up with teksavvy and save me some 30$ a month.

Plus that means i dont have any downtime which is awesome.

martian

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May 30th 2011, 19:07:38

I will also say how it goes. need to find out when they are going to get it hooked up.
I will not disable my dsl until the end of the June billing cycle just in case.
:P

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Havoc

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May 30th 2011, 19:58:33

Yeah 300gb's is still quite a bit of bandwidth for 12 bucks cheaper, and a lot more than what Rogers would give you for 40 bucks more..

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Galandy

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May 31st 2011, 15:22:09

well like i said, the same connection with rogers was running me 75 a month with all the fixins plus the overage im hitting monthly.

Im happy to be saving 30 bucks a month and getting 220gb more cap