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Karnage XZ

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Oct 31st 2017, 2:08:11

What does everyone think about this today? More Indictments to come?
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Dissident Game profile

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Oct 31st 2017, 2:19:15

definitely more to come...

do you think itll change the opinions of trump supporters though?

Karnage XZ

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Oct 31st 2017, 2:22:03

No, I think that most trump supporters are American white nationalists and of course... Russians.
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Dissident Game profile

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Oct 31st 2017, 2:32:27

i wouldn't go that far... but i went to the fox news website to see what they are saying about all of this and, surprise surprise, it's all about Hillary and how what she did was 100 times worse and that these guys werent really that influential in the administration. the spin machine is working overtime.

Zorp Game profile

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Oct 31st 2017, 2:37:24

The indictments don't relate at all to the Trump campaign itself, at all. Honestly, this seems to be a pretty huge letdown for those who were hoping for that. It's looking like Podesta's lobbying company might be involved though.

Overall, things aren't looking good for Manafort and his buddies, but Trump escapes fairly unscathed as far as I can tell from what's been released so far. The stuff that was covered in the indictment is from 2012.

Karnage XZ

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Oct 31st 2017, 2:47:47

I noticed that as well. But don't you always start at the beginning? Do you really think that someone starts planning a campaign the year of the election? Nope, good planning starts years ahead of time, in fact we don't really know when the campaign started for each of these runner ups. But it showed Trump running for election in a simpsons episode in 2001 if I remember correctly. So I think it's safe to say, that this was pre-planned decades in advance.
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sinistril Game profile

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Oct 31st 2017, 3:00:54

Why would it change Trump supporters opinions? Manafort is part of the swamp. Will Uranium One change the opinion of Democrats?
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Oct 31st 2017, 5:42:49

Problem is that Trump made his fortune from ripping off others, he surrounded himself with like minded people. He promised to clean up corruption. Well unless, he and Mueller are secretly working together, but appearing like adversaries in the eye of the public. I am tired of the two party system, they are both corrupt. Next election, vote third party and try something different for a change.
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Dissident Game profile

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Oct 31st 2017, 6:05:19

dude took a plea bargain... which means someone else is gonna go down. can only get a plea if you got info

sinistril Game profile

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Oct 31st 2017, 6:50:49

No, Manafort did not lol, that was some temporary Trump (unpaid) aide. Not really sure why people think this is some big deal. Manafort is going to lawyer up and get some small time or likely no time because of how the investigation was done and the fact that he's got loads of bipartisan friends in high places who are guilty of the same thing and has for years and years. He should be done for a long time, so should others like the Podestas that were involved in the same money laundering. Democrats will continue screaming about how Trump is done, meanwhile even their leaders are distancing themselves from impeachment because they see the real scandal is coming over the hill (and hey, Mueller's involved in it, what's up with that?)

Eventually, this will all basically go away, swamp life will continue, Americans will vote in someone that will promise change in the next election, and the only change will be that you become more and more socialist while China becomes more and more capitalist, and Americans will wonder what happened to their prosperity in about 50 years time.
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sinistril Game profile

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Oct 31st 2017, 6:56:32

But hey, we'll all be dead, and who cares about what happens to people 2 generations from now? Generation Z is pretty much a write-off and their children are going to be even more confused and nihilistic than them by sake of their parents being completely unprepared for any form of adult life, so the generation after that might very well not even materialise. Don't worry, though, we're about to hit the singularity, possibly within the next 5-10 years and AI is either going to magnanimously usher us in to a new golden era or destroy us. Either way, we'll be better off.
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Oceana Game profile

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Oct 31st 2017, 10:20:22

We have Trump isn't that as having Artificial Intelligence already?

Ivan Game profile

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Oct 31st 2017, 11:16:48

lol@sinistril

The best overall ranking countrys in the world are socialist so whats wrong with that? Even China will get there eventually at this rate likely before the US :P

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Oct 31st 2017, 13:16:01

Stuff like this always has multiple connections to other cases.
Won't surprise me it'll open up a few closed doors to other fluff storms. US government or even an a global level.

Ruthie

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Oct 31st 2017, 16:57:52

Yesterday's indictments didn't have anything to do with the campaign but that papa fellow has plenty of info on that as well so I doubt this is the end ... just the beginning of the fluff storm.
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Oct 31st 2017, 19:21:05

I heard Trump let Iran get nukes and sold nuclear materials to Russia and he also claimed the terrorist attack in Libya was because some french dude made a pov youtube film.

But Hillary let the rapist jew attack Rose. And I will have zero truck with that.

sinistril Game profile

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Oct 31st 2017, 21:32:06

Originally posted by Ruthie:
Yesterday's indictments didn't have anything to do with the campaign but that papa fellow has plenty of info on that as well so I doubt this is the end ... just the beginning of the fluff storm.


I'd bet a decent sum of money he doesn't have much info at all based upon his plea deal. :P Mueller's history as a prosecutor means anything can happen though. When you have someone that doesn't shy away from illegal tactics that have a good chance of getting a case thrown out, then you have a lot to look forward to if your only goal is pushing a PR campaign and not actually getting to the truth.

braden, yep, that rascal. Not like the french dude that made a youtube film went to jail and had his life literally ruined because the US state dept, obviously run by Trump at the time, blatantly lied about him to cover their own tracks.
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