youre deadd!!!!!

Tell me why?

I did 1 land grab per country. On top of that, all the countries I hit had 0 defense. It's not as if i targetted anyone in particular. I went down te list of countries and if I broke i broke, if i didn't i had slaughter.

herp derp herp derp derp

#119 is obviously not a new player.

It was actually a pretty clever move...

You did only 1 hit per country, but you hit numerous alliances multiple times each. This is an alliance server, so hitting an alliance 5 times is no different than hitting the same country 5 times.

Because fluff you

omg, this game still attract new players?!

we keep hearing the same old *^%$ explanation. from the way he grabs, he knows what he's doing.

lol

And we hear the same explanation for farming untags. Its an alliance server, so either join up or get farmed. Yet, even as the numbers continue to dwindle in Alliance people continue to repeat their policies as if they should be in place.

My policy: 1 hit per country per 48 hours.

You have your right to your policy, but you cannot expect to enforce the policy if you do not join an alliance. If you fully expect to be killed, then you can use whatever policy you want knowing you'll get killed for it.

If you want to have a policy that other alliances will respect, then you need to have the ability to enforce that policy.

Untaggeds can only enforce their own policies regarding their own actions, they have no ability to force other alliances to change their policies towards untaggeds, except in making it unprofitable for that alliance to maintain that policy.

If you make it so that alliances find it unprofitable to retain their current policy and more profitable to alter their policy, then you will succeed. Your best bet is to actually be reasonable in what you expect alliances to allow, such as 1 hit per alliance per 48 hours, not 1 hit per country per 48 hours.

If you make it clear that you will suicide anyone that kills you for your policy, then they may alter their policy if yours is reasonable. However, since your policy is extremely unreasonable, even the threat of suiciding with your restart will not be sufficient to cause any alliance to change their policy.

My policy is reasonable. Get more than 0 defense and then a country does not have to have his or her land taken by a 275 jet SS. As someone said, I grabbed a lot today, but that is not to be expected set long. Eventually people will get defense and make me spend turns spying to grab, and make it unfeasible ot grab countries. Right now there is a lot of unprotected countries. If an alliance wishes to maintain its land, it should make a modicum of effort to ensure that their players have a minimum defense. I'm not a suicider, the tags will get their land back throughout the set as im farmed.

=(!! GRRRrrrr making me actually get def again =.=;; Glad it was just 1 hit... i'm too lazy to break you hope you survive their KR's if they decide to kill you....

thanks tyug. Hope you finish well!

You lack defense far more than they do. Defense isn't just the ability to make someone else's attack fail, but also to make it not worth it for them to attack you.

You need to stop pretending that you are not a suicider. You know that your actions will get you killed, and you lack any survival instincts. When you have no survival instincts, then the threat of being killed is no longer a threat. Clearly, for you, the threat of being killed is no longer a threat, meaning you are either a total idiot, or you lack the desire to see your country live for more than a couple of weeks, making you a suicider.

I've played as untagged on the alliance server, and playing as an untagged is suicide. You can suicide with a goal in mind, such as making alliances change their policies towards untaggeds, or get more military early on. Your goal of making them get more military early on is a goal for which you will fail. It would be possible for you to possibly achieve the goal of making alliances change their policies towards untaggeds if you specifically targetted alliances for their policies against untaggeds.

Your goal is to suicide, but to penalize individual players for running very low defense. You may actually be able to make players use slightly more defense in future rounds with your actions this set. However you are delusional to not consider your actions suicide. You may have limited success in your suicide mission, but it is suicide.

Heh, clever. =) I don't think what he's doing is terribly unreasonable. Seems pretty smart.

I have no mission. I wanted land early on, and I grabbed fairly. As the set progresses, I grab less and start stocking. End of set happens and I jump.

That's the way the game should work. I will get farmed, and that I understand. But killing is not part of the equation. I am not building up a country to kill with. My goal has nothing to do with policies or dying. It is to make top 15.

yeah, unfortunately I don't see you surviving long, despite your somewhat-reasonable policy, which as Rockman said, you have no real power to enforce
"Its an alliance server, so either join up or get farmed." This is the reality, and it makes perfect sense. If you're not in an alliance, you have little chance of running a successful country. That said, the vast majority of attacks on untaggeds are not personal, and a lot of alliances will happily take in the noobiest of noobs

GL with that one! LOL

This is poetic

You forgot the part about this being an alliance server, and multi-tapping a tag wont allow you to survive too long, and most alliances have a kill policy after 3-4 grabs on their tag. You will never make top 15 that way.

Your style of play is more suited to Primary than to Alliance.

shes so hot smart and sex

it would be much more profitable for them to have me around to farm than to kill me.

Except for those that aren't netting-focused...

They will have land grab sex with your country.

This set everyone is netting focused. I saw it on AT so it must be true.

Join an alliance

This set everyone is netting focused. [/quote]


there is no such thing in earth where "EVERYONE" is netting focused.

tell that to iMag.

That is only true if you are not grabbing these alliances. If you grab an alliance multiple times in one day, it is not profitable for them to let you grab them and they farm you back, it is more profitable to just kill you.

I suggest that you grab each ALLIANCE once every 48 hours, not a 1 grab per 24 hours per country. With 1 grab on an alliance every 48 hours, chances are that only SoL or iMag will kill you, rather than any alliance you grab 4+ times in one day being likely to kill you.

hm

Yeah, some netting alliances do not like being grabbed multiple times, despite the fact that they may get more land off retals due to ghost acres. The main problem is having to waste time and resources to retal, and they have to deal with elevated expenses afterwards. Kinda like sex, but without the foreplay.

Another problem for you is that when an alliance looks at their defending news, they usually don't see it by country. They see a big sheet, listing all incoming attacks on ALL countries in that alliance. But, you should know that already.


P.S. We spoke earlier via in-game PM. Really, those turrets will do less for you than just selling them off and letting DRs do your protection for you.

imag is netting too!

lol such a load of fluff.
war alliances will not tolerate you hitting them long without retaling, and if you hit like you have been, on multiple countries in said alliances, you will be farmed then killed and then invited to learn from them. oh yeah....http://sol.ghqnet.com

better to be in our midst than in our way i would think.

i dont think random grabs should be punished with kills but i can predict you will get killed when all the clans you hit will notice they wont get their land back since you're in heavy DR

i think it is more than random grabs resulting in a kill, iTavi. Alliances have retal policies that are made public for a reason. if this were any other server it would be a valid tactic, but not in alliance.

What i don't get is the complaining untags do when they disregard these policies. If they were grabbed by alliances too much they would cry about that, but we should not enforce our policies?

the name of the server IS Alliance after all.

too bad that you grabbed the same alliance too often in 48/72h timeframe. like this its suicide, although i like that you no-spy grabbed them with barely any jets :)

The other issue is that since you're in DR so much that a lot of alliances won't be able to get their land back, and then a lot of alliances will look at the loss of land and think it is more beneficial to just kill you off.

I'd say good luck, but I really wouldn't mean it. I have nothing against you, but nothing for you either.

lmao, you hit sof 18 times. sure, only one hit per country per 48 hours, but somehow i doubt sof will let you get away with that.

there's always someone that wants to try pushing things

hmm.. that is quite a lot of hits on sof. I didn't look at tags.. was just typing in numbers. Perhaps I'll sacrafice my top 15 finish and FA a sof'er in need.

I think alliances would like to take some of their land back... if I drop defense, then any newb could grab and keep me in DR. When I'm out of DR, then they can get some of their land back with less turns needed. I'm not unreasonable--and most people who play this game are not unreasonable.

oh oh, Dragon has noticed your country :X

Oooooo

I hope he was joking when he said top 15 :P

What NW would make top 15? I was guessing around 115m?

last reset $141,827,276 was the cutoff, but a lot of netters were in war

the reset before that $173,957,370, this reset most netters were not in war

the reset before that $150,800,787, some netters were in war.

i'm assuming 150M+ to be safe.

good luck! ;P

http://alliance.www.earthempires.com/topplayers?round=8

142m

http://alliance.www.earthempires.com/topplayers?round=7

174m

http://alliance.www.earthempires.com/topplayers?round=6

151m


Why make a guess when there previous sets scores are easily available? And nope, you're not getting 115m as an untagged, especially if you hit SoF a dozen times and make them kill you and have to restart.

You should meet Paulie. He's right at your intelligence level.

Hmm.. Kudos to #119!

it seems no one wants to kill you now as everyone is thinking that "hey, he pissed other clans as well so let them kill him. it's just a waste if we kill him."

nice way of landgrabbing almost all clans here. bravo!

I have a proposal for Mr 119.

If your country is still alive, I propose that if you stop hitting countries in the SOLdiers tag, I will FA you turrets.

Support the neutrals.

if you wish to accept send me a private message.

yeah cause if you hit me i will lobby for a KR on your butt b/c i hate getting hit by untagged countries in Alliance server, i get enough of that fluff in express ;)