I got 10 days, SOF wins. Too much restart, too much walling, too much wanting to war vs. preferring to net. Done and done.

we are gamers... just because we prefer to net doesnt mean we dont know how to war. this isnt NA ;0

your neither over or under because you are just wrong :-)

I have warred with Evo before, and respect their ability. Not a slight of ECM, but rather a recognition of SOF.

I'll call under :P for same prediction

Im glad our ally has faith in us!

/sarcasm

before anybody freaks out

I think its funny that people are using the "you prefer to net" crap

We all decided to be in this war

+1

Hmmm if I were to vote, I'd say over ten days, 14 days for Sof starting to win 18 days for victory.

I don't know how people expect SoF to win this...I'm rooting for them but the numbers/NW/land advantage of the other side seems too much to overcome. Those guys are running good chats too and unless things change in a few more days I think this'll be all but over.

That said, go SoF!

With my experience against netting clans, if there is no third party intervention. Warring clans have a higher restart rate and after a certain number of days about 2 weeks, the netting clans start trending down and the warclan trending up in networth.

Thats why I believe if Sof does win, it will be after a long haul.

Krue, the TNW/land advantages don't matter much when nobody has originals left, and that is where SOF will pull away, in their new lemmings, er, countries lol

I don't disagree with any of that, but even with a marginally lower restart rate (I don't think it'll be that much lower in this case) Evo/Sanct/NM will maintain a numbers advantage. Furthermore, I don't think that SoF will be able to kill all of their originals before dying off (e.g. SoF will be tagkilled first), which will put them at a huge disadvantage.

I think that people are failing to take into account the fact that although Evo/Sanct/NM are netters:

1) They wanted this war and came in prepped.
2) They are running joint chats, so there really isn't much of an issue of disorganization due to having three alliances. From everything I've seen so far they're working well together.

The fact is that so far they actually have better hpm than SoF and despite a somewhat worse hpk and (I would argue) not quite as good target selection, things are looking good for them.

Just my opinion. I guess we'll have to wait a few more days to see for sure.

judging from the stats so far it looks like ECM will win...and this is most likely what is going to happen...

I predict both sides are tagkilled.

I said that weeks ago, I stand by it now.

Servant has a crystal ball so I would listen to him! If one side emerges without being tagkilled I'll be very surprised.

go ECM!

Last I counted SoF had 1 more top 100 country than ECM. 26vs25.

However ECM so far is holding up on the coordination and closing in on HPK.

restart rate and HPK were expected to be their weakness.

ECM all agreed to war. Did everyone think that only meant they would run just an original country without restarting? I assure that ECM are committed to restart like SoF each and every death.

Well if you look at past arranged friendly wars, that hasn't meant a 100% restart rate. Probably my expectation would be that Sof would be 87% and ECM would be 70%.

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go ECM

I hope SoF prove me wrong, but it would take a catastrophic failure for the ECM side to lose this one.

I died, thats pretty freaking catastrophic!

I agree with Dagga. All things equal + 26 countries to start, all they need to do is play a game of attrition

Watching this war is like watching two fat women mud wrestling. Its not pretty and almost hurts to watch but you can't keep from peaking. In the end i predict both sides getting hosed and licking each other.

Glad you already have an excuse for why you are going to lose

^___^ it's too close to decide right now.

EMC members are more active and up for this war than SoF even if they were equal numbers tbh. Though, SoF would prob win on walling and other war related stuff if numbers were closer. Its not the end of the world though, now that stored turns have run out, the numbers advantage is marginally less of an issue, though the number of kills makes it an issue. That adds the factor of restart rate too I guess.

Meh, I wouldn't want it any other way, hard fought defeats teaches much about yourself.

I think this war is a lot closer than some people realize.

I agree with helmet, and for reasons I won't mention here :)

Confirmed, Helmet is much closer to some people than you want to think about!

Lol

lol!

This thing is dead even, 50/50 which way it goes right now,

which TBH is a slight victory for SOF to this point.

SoF is doing quite well in walling and coming online so far.

that said, EMC is very rusty in warring. lol.

This coming from the guy who tag hopped when his alliance went to war and the next reset didn't even play while his alliance was removed from existence in the game. Yea, people care about your opinion.

whoever wins should get the other's porn collection

You DO know that Ivan's collection comes mostly from a bet that he won against Mickster, right?

no i did not. what can i expect from mickster's collection?

Anything.

hahah good memory nuk