Ya know, I kinda tried to tell him that via PM, but NOW I DON'T THINK THAT WILL BE NECESSARY THANK YOU VERY MUCH...

ah i had a feeling you were referring to pang

he hasn't played in LaF since the reset he was Don. it's been a while since he was a LaFfer :P i would hardly categorize him as a "LaFfer sent to instigate" :P

from what i know he's going to continue to be playing in PDM...

oh and P.S. i'm taking back my head IA position offer to you, you didn't find anything new for me so n/m!

Do you know what unsubstantiated means?

Something can be true and unsubstantiated dumbass

Funny, EVO gaining members that are in restart range country numbers and NA's restart rate is at a halt.

Gee, which alliances has members playing in OTHER alliances now?

For the record, no one forced me to self delete. I did so voluntarily but detagged first and let some people farm my country first. The reason for my self-deletion was that so I could assume responsibility for moderating the alliance server without being seen as having any conflict of interest.
I announced what I was doing in a public channel after I let someone get first dibs. To be clear, this was prior to me having any game mod powers over the alliance server.

Also to be very clear about this: except in very rare circumstances, I am the *ONLY* one who moderates and monitors alliance server although certainly pang/qz/slagpit can do so if necessary or bop me over the head if they feel I do something out of line. All changes to the alliance server in terms of country edits/deletions etc can be seen by the admins and myself. I can also see all moderator actions taken for any server in the game but I do not necessarily moderate them all with any regular basis (other game mods do).

If I thought for a minute that anyone in LaF or Evo (or anyone else in alliance) were cheating I wouldn't hesitate to delete them. Also if I though that Pang or Slagpit or qz were manipulating the game to benefit their alliances or their accounts specifically (other than on the beta server) I would say so very publicly and would not be volunteering my time for this game.

For those of you who might not know my game history, as an sof leader I have leveled all kinds of accusations at LaF in particular at various points in the past and under my leadership of SoF, we were not always very kind to LaF nor to Evo for that matter (just ask slagpit). Myself and Slagpit were not exactly on friendly terms game-wise either. We still don't exactly talk about earth politics:P

Please keep the trolling within the context of the game and stop leveling unfounded accusations at the game admins who spend a lot of their personal time keeping the game running and developing.

ALL LIES MARTIAN

EVO IS A BUNCH OF CHEATS ITS ALL CAPS SO ITS TRUE

Martian,

So game admins can fling dirt at players while these admins are protected from the dirt flinging?

Continually, slagpit has trolled, if not outright insult other people with his game admin identity, this goes right back into the argument of why didn't game admins and their in game handle ego separate, through two different forum accounts, or even not be associated with any alliance, period.

Pang/Dave has taken the first step, playing in PDM and helping that alliance back on it's feet. While some other admin may be playing in another alliance, their loyalty is still heavily attached to their previous alliance and outright blindly defends it no matter what it is.

When's the last time Dave has spoken on behalf of LaF, or insult other players to defend LaF? Probably when he was still Don, that was a long time ago. Yet slagpit (maybe partly due to his personal grudge with SS) seems to have a thing for LaF and spends as much time as an admin researching things to say about LaF, as SS, who isn't an admin, and does hate EVO for whatever reason.

Whatever, people call me a troll and I give people too much ammo. I just want this game to grow in a level playing field for everyone. Same amount of access with different alliance hosting sites, same amount of scrutiny from admins on all the alliances.

Do I enjoy posting ramblings? No, I'd rather be fighting it out for a t10 finish, but looks like I will never be able to do that unless either I cheat, or I spend more effort in the game.




I'm out, last post.

Wow, you really are truly stupid. I thought it was just an act. My mistake.

Good one slagpit. Did you have KJ write that for you?

What would you like me to do locket? Martian, myself, and others have all written out long explanations in this topic. Forgotten "reads" them and proceeds to go on an angry rant as if we said the exact opposite of what we posted.

It was not meant to be some biting insult. It's an expression of incredulity. I can only hope that forgotten's paranoid fantasies are put to rest with his retirement.

El queso está viejo y pútrido.

LAF AND EVO SHOULD FA EACH OTHER ALL SET AND HAVE A BIG HAPPY CIRCLE JERK

It has been done many times,i would venture a guess there has been nearly as many top10's as have been rounds of EE..

waka waka.

Bobby: You should perhaps pose that question to yourself.

I know which country belongs to Pangaea and I have read some of his in-game messages. The only fault I may have made was using plural LaFers, rather than the confirmed singular.

If you wanted to know then you could have messaged me, but instead you chose to be asinine, as usual.

Clearly you can't decide who pwns more with netgaining, so when are we all gonna see that awesome Laf v Evo war?

Actually anoniem you chose to be an ass as usual. Pang has nothing to do with laf and hasn't for quite a few sets. He moved to sol and then to PDM......... so yah..........

u mean SoF and PDM locket.

he was in SOL before he was in LaF :P

lol

actually nevermind - this isn't worth my time. defend your alliance and you get slated.

bye guys.

Martian <3 Slagpit

anon: when you post about what LaF does/doesn't do in the future please include proof of your claims. Otherwise they are UNSUBSTANTIATED.

Secondly, don't generalize specific events. Claiming LaF is sending countries into other clans to then fluff with EVO seems quite a leap to me based on one country.

Your post was just as bad as all the LaF fanboys who go around saying "EVO FA's into top 10, EVO has untagged landfarms" for no reason other than they heard SS say it and want to be cool...

Further people should read through all my posts. I never claim LaF does anything except when its completely obvious/provable they did (like FA a guy into tenth a few sets ago over a completely legit EVO country), and I offer proof in my posts. I think both sides could learn from my example...

That doesn't make sense.

I have to post proof, but you don't have to post proof because what you've claimed is "obvious"? "Obvious" is subjective.

Anyway, it was immature of me to post here suggesting Pangaea was instigating grabs on EVO and blaming LaF for it, regardless of whether it was substantiated or not.

My apologies to hanlong and LaF.

never underestimate the effectiveness of trolls

Anon i'd think you'd expect it of PDM. They landgrab other alliances.. they hit fat people... it should be expected

Locketubs <3 Onaniem

BobbyATA - but LaF logic dictates that any Evo country in the top 10 cannot be legit ;)

no need to apologize anoniem

i need to apologize more for the flaming done by my side ;P

although i did put up an AT ban for this reset =/

Having recently returned to the game, and having had an all-x country FAed out of the top 10 a couple of years ago I thought it interesting to investigate if LaF still practice this...

Round 9
11 Hupnum Kinship (#530)
Jun/05/11 0:00 Hupnum Kinship (#530) 178,822,721 +10,999,358 21,881 0 H LaF 1 YES Active Bought/Tech/Build
Jun/05/11 0:00 PeekABoo (#51) 107,561,396 -11,001,700 32,027 0 H LaF 0 YES Active Sold/Ally/Harmful Op

A failed FA into the top 10?

Round 8 seems clean

Round 7
9 Merry Christmas (#229)38,169 194,049,919 DG LaF
Feb/03/11 0:00 Merry Christmas (#229) 194,049,919 +7,400,000 38,169 0 D LaF 1 YES Active Bought/Tech/Build
Feb/03/11 0:00 Santa Claus Is Don Of The Elves (#33) 132,185,657 -7,280,416 42,195 0 D LaF 1 YES Active Sold/Ally/Harmful Op
Feb/02/11 23:55 Merry Christmas (#229) 186,649,919 +13,214,811 38,169 0 D LaF 1 YES Active Bought/Tech/Build
Feb/02/11 23:55 Chewi the red nose monster (#508) 115,309,300 -21,406,198 26,732 0 H LaF 1 YES Active Sold/Ally/Harmful Op

Guess he deserved a top 10?, maybe you only counter FAed someone else? not anything my quick check could see though...

Same old LaF I guess, still FAing legit finishes out of the top 10, because their members are more deserving.

and anoniem feel free to send me via PM what pang sent via ingame messages.

i am not aware what he said, and if he was trying to represent LaF in his messages he's clearly disillusioned. i haven't asked him to send a msg on LaF's behalf ever since he left LaF after being Don for half a reset 3 resets ago and then played in SoF and PDM.

He wasn't trying to represent LaF in-game. I was just trying to be ironic, as Evo get blamed for the untagged suiciders without proof of them being connected to Evo (see forgotten's drivel above).

I didn't like some of Pangaea's actions this set, but obviously I know he is a member of Paradigm and therefore represents them when wearing their tag.

yea cool i get your point anoniem.

posting crap without proof is lame =)

if you look at evo/pdm news for the past few resets, i doubt it has to do with pang specifically since things like this happen between you and pdm before pang ever played in PDM :P

Hanlong wears ladies underwear. But I don't have any proof.

don't worry about it, we can manufacture the required proof.

:( those are unisex underwear!