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qzjul

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Oct 26th 2013, 0:12:24

Hey All,

I've changed the captcha a bit:

1) It now triggers on the Portal (If you're logged in actually), rather than only once you're in a country

2) It now tells you *WHY* it triggered!

3) The portal now tells you how long you have until a captcha on THAT DEVICE!!

4) There is a link beside that, on portal, which LETS YOU ENTER IT AT WILL, so you don't accidentally catch one mid-KR or something

5) Delay Captcha should *Actually work* now

6) You now get THREE delays of 8 hours each.


Thoughts, suggestions, bugs?

Regards,

-qzjul & the EE Dev Team

PS: The reason we need a captcha is for ANTI-BOT/BABYSITTING-SCRIPT/ETC/ETC/ETC, so NO we are not just going to disable the captcha.
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qzjul

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Oct 26th 2013, 2:28:15

ALSO:

7) If you hover over the "Next Captcha for this device: X" bit, it will tell you the device id (which it will also tell you in the captcha itself)
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Serpentor

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Oct 26th 2013, 4:38:20

Ah, going through the regular channels I can post here. :-)
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Marshal

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Oct 26th 2013, 10:19:12

how often we are supposed to see captcha? i saw it yesterday and next was due after few days from now.
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Serpentor

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Oct 26th 2013, 15:19:00

I logged in and out on same devise to captcha 3 times straight.

Catpcha Displayed because the Captcha was forced: Perhaps you have Javascript Disabled? (Device ID: 724)
Did you see the green checkmark at the login form?
If yes, please report this on the Bugs & Suggestions Forum


Java is enabled.
No private browsing.
Green check mark doesn't show on mobile site, but is always there on full site. Still gotta captcha anyways though.

Seems now that you changed it to the portal I have to captcha every time I want to come to your site... Even just when I want to check forums or get my bonus etc... Before it was only twice a day to get into my country.

I gotta say I'm pretty fluffing pissed off and this may be the kicker to make me not come to this fluffing website anymore. Change this fluffing mess you are continually making worse. Am I going to have to captcha before each post next? For fluff sake!!!!
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qzjul

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Oct 26th 2013, 16:07:21

Do you have time to come on IRC so I can help resolve this with you? You seem to be the only one having serious difficulties?

If your browser isn't showing the green check mark, then that means something about JS isn't working properly -- maybe it's just being super-slow, but it does mean that you aren't having it respond properly...
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qzjul

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Oct 26th 2013, 16:21:20

I just fixed a bug where the green checkbox wouldn't load if you'd saved your un/pw in the form -- because it was only loading on focus of the un/pw elements.


Try that?
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Serpentor

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Oct 26th 2013, 16:30:28

I just saw a check mark for the first time ever on the mobile page....

Sorry for the rant btw. I only get like 30 seconds at a time to log in and check posts, with work and taking care of the kids and such. Getting captcha blocked on my phone over and over got to me.

I'll test when I can find a second.
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Serpentor

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Oct 26th 2013, 16:37:39

Bug finally fixed. Thank you so much.

Did this only affect the mobile users?
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qzjul

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Oct 26th 2013, 16:40:29

Yea, it only affected mobile users, as I already had a fix in place for desktop users, but I think I'd assumed it transitioned over...
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blid

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Oct 26th 2013, 17:16:53

Here's a question from a retard: if people have already done the captcha, how does it stop a bot log-in?
Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:
Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

qzjul

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Oct 26th 2013, 18:22:10

That's why I'm tracking per-device. =/
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blid

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Oct 26th 2013, 20:41:14

I don't understand, can't a bot log in from a captcha-approved device?
Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:
Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

Serpentor

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Oct 26th 2013, 23:51:36

They'd have to use a proxy probably tho. And get captcha'd?
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qzjul

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Oct 27th 2013, 0:39:21

well it's not *just* device that we look at; in theory they should have to answer a captcha...
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blid

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Oct 27th 2013, 2:20:26

They can answer the captcha ahead of time though? With the device the bot uses?
Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:
Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

qzjul

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Oct 27th 2013, 18:45:34

well it's not just the physical device, there's a bunch of other parameters; if you switch browsers or upgrade browsers, it'll be a "different device"...
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Duna

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Oct 28th 2013, 6:36:05

You cant stop bots with captcha. Thought its now balanced.

qzjul

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Oct 28th 2013, 6:50:39

Originally posted by Duna:
You cant stop bots with captcha. Thought its now balanced.


Bots definitely still have a tough time with captcha's; most of the captcha-breaking is done by paying humans in india &etc to break them =/
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Duna

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Oct 28th 2013, 7:41:33

Average time to solve captcha by services is less than 10 sec, so kinda same time.

masterfu

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Feb 10th 2014, 12:44:29

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enshula

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Feb 11th 2014, 6:20:58

ajax.googleapi.com

depending on whether i allow javascript to run from there it seems to reset the captcha status, could you remember for each state rather than cancelling the other state?

qzjul

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Feb 11th 2014, 18:31:19

what do you mean enshula?

It works with javascript enabled, and it works with javascript disabled (i've tested it =D)
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enshula

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Feb 12th 2014, 14:41:30

i was wrong, what was actually happening was that if you go to login with the javascript off then turn on the javascript you still have to do a captcha

except if i close browser, reopen then enabe ajax.googleapi.com before logging in the captcha doesnt need to be done

i turned off all addons except noscript, missed a wordwrap and a google/yandex redirect one so ill try again, might stop history wiping on exit too

edit: did those things and do not track and still the same behaviour, firefox btw

Edited By: enshula on Feb 12th 2014, 14:44:49
See Original Post

midevil.chaos

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Apr 6th 2014, 21:56:17

Whenever I log using either FF or Chrome, I always have to redo it (whenever I change browsers that is).

Marshal

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Apr 6th 2014, 22:43:41

Originally posted by midevil.chaos:
Whenever I log using either FF or Chrome, I always have to redo it (whenever I change browsers that is).


if you haven't used for example ff past 7 days and then use it you need to captcha and of course if something gets updated.
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midevil.chaos

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Apr 10th 2014, 0:17:31

No, I often switch between both. If I play STO, I can't use FF (because it messes it up after a while). If I don't play STO, then I use FF.

Kid

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Sep 3rd 2014, 13:30:17

Was capcha disable?
I dont have the option to delay it anymore.
I was trying to wall from my mobile, i login using mobile page and stuck in capcha and i cant delay it. :/

http://i57.tinypic.com/jj0d5l.png

Captcha says my pc have never answered captcha before, when i'm using it to login every day :/

Marshal

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Sep 3rd 2014, 14:57:37

you have delayed it 8 hrs recently?
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Kid

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Sep 4th 2014, 4:26:48

No.
Its been a long time since i click delay as last set we're in netting set so i dont even use it

Marshal

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Sep 4th 2014, 13:01:17

browser or plugin got updated?
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Kid

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Sep 5th 2014, 1:03:23

talked to qz
It could be the browser update.

Marshal

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Sep 5th 2014, 15:11:22

firefox got updated recently and chrome gets updated ~weekly.
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midevil.chaos

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Sep 8th 2014, 2:11:10

The captcha system is irritating, but the most annoying thing isn't something you can control - it's the illegible words, ugh.

Marshal

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Sep 8th 2014, 15:45:03

if captcha would be easy to read then bots would pass it even easier than they do now.

i've seen many kind of captchas and recaptcha ain't worst (its in top 3 although).
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VicRattlehead

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Sep 29th 2014, 13:39:23

I remember once someone explained to me that when we type in a capcha we are helping decipher old texts. If that is so...

...on these ones that look like house numbers, are we helping google take over the world?

Marshal

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Sep 29th 2014, 15:17:08

if you are talking about recpatcha then we help google to translate/decipher books.

i've seen few times near full phonenumbers.
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Kid

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Sep 30th 2014, 1:58:14

My only concern is hoping i wont need to keep entering captcha if chrome updates every week :P

Marshal

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Sep 30th 2014, 14:30:30

Originally posted by Kid:
My only concern is hoping i wont need to keep entering captcha if chrome updates every week :P


stop using chrome then, be glad that you don't use chromium, it gets updated more often.
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LadyGrizz boobies is fine

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Xinhuan

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Sep 30th 2014, 16:39:26

Originally posted by Kid:
My only concern is hoping i wont need to keep entering captcha if chrome updates every week :P


You could also opt to turn off the auto-update, or to allow it to inform you of updates, but you choose whether to update or not.

midevil.chaos

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Jan 20th 2015, 2:43:34

Still seeing this every time I come here... *sigh*

braden

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Jan 20th 2015, 2:46:26

so, if captcha is to prevent bots, then you'll be deleting yourself upon next login for obvious and unapologetic bot running?


come on, i kid because i care..

Celphi

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Jan 20th 2015, 18:24:47

time stamps & checkboxes > captcha
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