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beerdrinker75 Game profile

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Feb 19th 2017, 22:00:11

This server is getting really tedious. The bots are usually messed up which makes netting hard and there seems to be an influx of players that have no idea this is a strategy game, so they grab and double tap anyone they can with no regards to the outcome.

I know...huge run on sentence. But really this used to be my favorite server. I hate to complain but come on. Fix the bots... and people...just because you may be able to break someone maybe you should use your brain and see if it's beneficial or not to do so. Every action gets a reaction. This is a strategy game.
Just shut up and have another beer

Marshal Game profile

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Feb 19th 2017, 22:08:20

your speech goes to deaf ears. sadly.
Patience: Yep, I'm with ELK and Marshal.

ELKronos: Patty is more hairy.

Gallery: K at least I am to my expectations now.

LadyGrizz boobies is fine

NOW3P: Morwen is a much harsher mistress than boredom....

cronie Game profile

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Feb 19th 2017, 22:14:20

Let Darwin set them straight.

If they double tap. Or ROR. Maybe they get away with it. Maybe they don't.

major Game profile

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Feb 19th 2017, 22:20:26

I actually think that the rules are on point for the server with the GDI rules of harmful ops, time frame and such for the last 6 hours of the set. agree with you beerdrinker. they both give netters a chance to net, and leave an avenue to deal with the tards.

Marshal Game profile

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Feb 19th 2017, 22:24:14

not forgetting "diminished returns" early set.
Patience: Yep, I'm with ELK and Marshal.

ELKronos: Patty is more hairy.

Gallery: K at least I am to my expectations now.

LadyGrizz boobies is fine

NOW3P: Morwen is a much harsher mistress than boredom....

beerdrinker75 Game profile

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Feb 19th 2017, 22:31:43

Some guy put me deep into dr early into this set. I could have raped a lot of players but i prefer to keep my profile open and not play like a fluff.
Just shut up and have another beer

cronie Game profile

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Feb 19th 2017, 22:44:41

who

beerdrinker75 Game profile

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Feb 19th 2017, 22:53:59

My intention is not to single out bad players or try to ridicule. But #19 is a dumb fluffing player. lol
Just shut up and have another beer

cronie Game profile

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Feb 19th 2017, 23:29:55

Naming and shaming is part of the lesson.

Hammer Game profile

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Feb 20th 2017, 0:10:40

beerdrinker is one of the most positive and encouraging people on this server, usually keeping those thoughts to himself from what I have seen. For him to get to this point, speaks volumes....and, as Marshal said, on deaf ears..sadly.

I don't care (except for the inconsistencies) if the bots don't work, but the d1ckhead factor makes the pool of competitors, and those who actually try to get better each week, much smaller. So if we have 50 players, maybe only 30 want to win.

I have never attempted anything in which I did not do my absolute best at being successful. While I have never won even after playing for years, I still ask a lot of questions, compare notes, and try to put myself in position to be successful. I try to get better each week; I haven't given up to become a suicider. I suppose there are those that consider screwing up others as being successful. I have always said the personalities on this game are a snapshot of the personalities we see in society...the good, the bad, the cruel, weird, etc....and probably at a similar ratio.

So, when one creates a country for next week, he/she should ask themselves if they want to be part of the solution in making this game competitive, fun, teach others, etc, and help it grow, or contribute to the problem that remains to be a shrinking pool of total number of players, which includes a portion of d1ckheads that only want to screw up someone. If part of the later, don't play.

Edited By: Hammer on Feb 20th 2017, 0:42:45

RiGHTiNTHeJiMMy

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Feb 20th 2017, 0:11:04

Takes all kinds to make a great game. Everyone can't be a netgaining snowflake.

beerdrinker75 Game profile

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Feb 20th 2017, 0:35:16

I just say if you are gonna war at least be decent at it. Don't waste my time.
Just shut up and have another beer

Nerrus Game profile

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Feb 20th 2017, 7:41:13

Originally posted by beerdrinker75:
I just say if you are gonna war at least be decent at it. Don't waste my time.
Hear, hear.
^..^ Surren ^..^

The only secrets you know are the secrets I deliberately let you know.

Primeval Game profile

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Feb 20th 2017, 15:20:02

Did the bots go down again? I hadn't seen the explosion of posts about bots not running turns the past few weeks

Kingme Game profile

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Feb 20th 2017, 15:21:32

Yes, they were definitly not working again.

I completely share your thoughts beerdrinker. I've been back for 4 sets now, and have had to deal with stupidity for all of them. I've been doing my part to try to set them straight, but some don't listen.

Primeval Game profile

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Feb 20th 2017, 19:29:03

For anyone that understands how to read the code drop me a PM and we can talk about reviewing the bot code to see if you can figure out why they stop playing turns. My first guess is the market here goes to hell and then the bots run out of cash and cannot play turns and somehow they never start back up - but I really have no idea.

Much of the development is probably still buried away on the AI section of the forum.

beerdrinker75 Game profile

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Feb 20th 2017, 19:49:11

Looks like they are still down i don't see any botlike names showing up in the country list.
Just shut up and have another beer

Marshal Game profile

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Feb 20th 2017, 20:26:22

if bots (commies mostly) sell their goodies at priv sell price + taxes + few bucks they will run out of money eventually.

this https://github.com/jhaagsma/ee_npc apparently has bots codes.
Patience: Yep, I'm with ELK and Marshal.

ELKronos: Patty is more hairy.

Gallery: K at least I am to my expectations now.

LadyGrizz boobies is fine

NOW3P: Morwen is a much harsher mistress than boredom....

Kingme Game profile

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Feb 20th 2017, 21:15:17

Originally posted by Primeval:
For anyone that understands how to read the code drop me a PM and we can talk about reviewing the bot code to see if you can figure out why they stop playing turns. My first guess is the market here goes to hell and then the bots run out of cash and cannot play turns and somehow they never start back up - but I really have no idea.

Much of the development is probably still buried away on the AI section of the forum.


I wish I could help you on reading the code, but I wouldn't be of much help.
However, I can say that I don't think this issue relates to running out of cash (at least not this time).

The fact that they didn't create countries this set, tells us quite a bit.

Primeval Game profile

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Feb 20th 2017, 22:44:16

When they stop during a round like that, they typically miss the next startup until qz intervenes. It's almost definitely a bug during them spending or attempting to spend turns.

cronie Game profile

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Feb 21st 2017, 0:27:27

not that i'd understand the code, but where can you find out the bot codes? or even how the game formulas work?

it seems more like a black box unless somebody spent time to systematically reverse engineer it?

or is all of this already open source?

drkprinc Game profile

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Feb 21st 2017, 11:52:16

you can find a chunk of the game formulas in the wiki page thought some might be outdated.

the bot code is just a flow chart really, a IF/ELSE/WHILE loop
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Kingme Game profile

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Feb 21st 2017, 14:57:07

Originally posted by Primeval:
When they stop during a round like that, they typically miss the next startup until qz intervenes. It's almost definitely a bug during them spending or attempting to spend turns.


That's interesting. If that's true, that's the first part of code we should try to fix. Shouldn't be too hard to put in error checking that says start again at the next set start.

Nerrus Game profile

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Feb 21st 2017, 15:20:43

Originally posted by cronie:
not that i'd understand the code, but where can you find out the bot codes? or even how the game formulas work?

it seems more like a black box unless somebody spent time to systematically reverse engineer it?

or is all of this already open source?
https://github.com/jhaagsma
^..^ Surren ^..^

The only secrets you know are the secrets I deliberately let you know.

Cerberus Game profile

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Feb 21st 2017, 16:47:51

So, maybe their strategy is to piss you off, right? Then I'd have to say their strategy is working fabulously.
I don't need anger management, people need to stop pissing me off!

beerdrinker75 Game profile

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Feb 21st 2017, 22:59:01

Originally posted by Cerberus:
So, maybe their strategy is to piss you off, right? Then I'd have to say their strategy is working fabulously.


This is stupid
Just shut up and have another beer

Berserker

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Feb 22nd 2017, 0:27:53

Tuesday mantra...........don't start a country...don't start a country...don't start a country..I won't start a country.

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Feb 22nd 2017, 2:48:53

started a country :)

Kingme Game profile

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Feb 22nd 2017, 2:49:32

Originally posted by beerdrinker75:
Originally posted by Cerberus:
So, maybe their strategy is to piss you off, right? Then I'd have to say their strategy is working fabulously.


This is stupid


This server is full of stupid. Lots and lots of it.

clintonista Game profile

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Feb 22nd 2017, 5:13:18

58 players, no bots.
No targets who can not cry on the forum.
Get ready for some wailing, gnashing and hate speech by the netters.
Should be fun.

Express forum is the best part of the entire site, hands down.

Kingme Game profile

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Feb 22nd 2017, 6:21:00

Originally posted by clintonista:
58 players, no bots.
No targets who can not cry on the forum.
Get ready for some wailing, gnashing and hate speech by the netters.
Should be fun.

Express forum is the best part of the entire site, hands down.


Surprised I haven't run into you since I came back the last few sets.
Unless... you were one of the guys I squashed like a bug.

NukEvil Game profile

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Feb 22nd 2017, 16:26:45

I haven't played the last 6 resets. Didn't feel the need to then, and I just don't feel it now. I made top10 in repeatable fashion; that's good enough for me. I almost always come out on top whenever someone steps to me, and that's good enough for me. I've felt satisfied whenever performing an experiment or dispensing justice for others, and that's good enough for me. I feel there is nothing more for me to accomplish here.
I am a troll. Everything I say must be assumed to be said solely to provoke an exaggerated reaction to the current topic. I fully intend to bring absolutely no substance to any discussion, ongoing or otherwise. Conversing with me is pointless.

SuperFly Game profile

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Feb 22nd 2017, 17:02:06

I am ready to farm the coveted golden noob!

I dont know who you are but I will spy on you, I will PS you and I will PS you till I cant PS no more!

drkprinc Game profile

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Feb 22nd 2017, 17:47:50

Well those who get land hungry better watch out for that spirit bomb when it hits!
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Nerrus Game profile

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Feb 22nd 2017, 18:39:28

This is going to be another fun set... I just know it!

/gets the Guinness and Fish & Chips ready :)

In all this world, why I do think there are five reasons why we drink: Good friends, good beer, lest we be dry and any other reason why.
^..^ Surren ^..^

The only secrets you know are the secrets I deliberately let you know.

Marshal Game profile

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Feb 22nd 2017, 20:22:28

alcohol is bad if you are dry like during summer.
Patience: Yep, I'm with ELK and Marshal.

ELKronos: Patty is more hairy.

Gallery: K at least I am to my expectations now.

LadyGrizz boobies is fine

NOW3P: Morwen is a much harsher mistress than boredom....

beerdrinker75 Game profile

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Feb 22nd 2017, 21:26:46

Originally posted by Marshal:
alcohol is bad if you are dry like during summer.


Crazy talk!
Just shut up and have another beer

Kingme Game profile

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Feb 22nd 2017, 22:35:36

I do not approve of this message.

Hammer Game profile

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Feb 23rd 2017, 1:24:50

This might be a war set.

I get hit early for 100 acres.
I retal Saturday for 1,000 acres.
They get pissed and hit me again.
I still have 300 turns and flatten them.

I was wrong; that wouldn't be a war.

jimmart Game profile

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Feb 23rd 2017, 2:43:09

Love this game, its been a few years since I played

SuperFly Game profile

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Feb 23rd 2017, 2:46:25

Originally posted by Hammer:
This might be a war set.

I get hit early for 100 acres.
I retal Saturday for 1,000 acres.
They get pissed and hit me again.
I still have 300 turns and flatten them.

I was wrong; that wouldn't be a war.


Message me ingame bro. I don't want to hit you for low aceras lol

drkprinc Game profile

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Feb 23rd 2017, 7:36:37

its hammer he always uses the same name man.
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Relax lah Game profile

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Feb 23rd 2017, 14:21:54

Sup fellas

/wave

Hammer Game profile

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Feb 23rd 2017, 16:54:41

Originally posted by SuperFly:
Originally posted by Hammer:
This might be a war set.

I get hit early for 100 acres.
I retal Saturday for 1,000 acres.
They get pissed and hit me again.
I still have 300 turns and flatten them.

I was wrong; that wouldn't be a war.


Message me ingame bro. I don't want to hit you for low aceras lol



lol...you probably owe me one or two, SuperFly! But, playing without bots does let me to go back to an old strategy I stopped using when the bots were created.

I screwed up last week. It was my first time playing in months, I didn't know the bots were not working and hit mobzta and kingme...two pals. They let me slide, and I appreciated it, because later I lost 1k acres to gogy.

That's the downside to the shrinking game. Most of us have played together for years and are pals and respect each other. Looking back, it's a good thing we do not have alliances anymore or it would be more like a modified team server.


Relax..are you lost? lol. Yes, I lost my mind and came back over for a week or two!

beerdrinker75 Game profile

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Feb 23rd 2017, 18:50:27

Originally posted by Relax lah:
Sup fellas

/wave


Come on back when you can stay for a while. :)
Just shut up and have another beer

Relax lah Game profile

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Feb 23rd 2017, 23:33:03

It's really been awhile.
What's the story here now?
Gdi salesman still around? :p
Without the bots, it must be like the Primary

Nerrus Game profile

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Feb 24th 2017, 23:59:27

As a cry baby snowflake socialist pig, I demand that the non GDI Bots be allowed on all the servers!
^..^ Surren ^..^

The only secrets you know are the secrets I deliberately let you know.

Hammer Game profile

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Feb 25th 2017, 4:38:12

Originally posted by Nerrus:
This is going to be another fun set... I just know it!

/gets the Guinness and Fish & Chips ready :)

In all this world, why I do think there are five reasons why we drink: Good friends, good beer, lest we be dry and any other reason why.


+1 on the Guinness