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beyond Game profile

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Feb 24th 2012, 5:24:58

I hit country with no tanks n troops, but their allies tanks n troop help him in Def. Did e rules change ?

Weapon bonus.
Let say I hv 100 jets

Off Ally hv 1000. So I will get to use 250. But I only hv 100 jets, so he only send 100?

If my weapon bonus give me 120% = 120 jets, off ally will send 100 or 120?

tduong Game profile

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Feb 24th 2012, 5:54:01

yes, up to 25% of his offensive power but no more than 100% of yours.

You should calculate offensive points instead of # of jets.
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afaik Game profile

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Feb 24th 2012, 7:20:17

Originally posted by beyond:
I hit country with no tanks n troops, but their allies tanks n troop help him in Def. Did e rules change ?


Yes. It's based on total off power, rather than mil type as duong says.


Originally posted by beyond:

If my weapon bonus give me 120% = 120 jets, off ally will send 100 or 120?


120. Your weap tech affects your total offensive power, which is used to calculate the max allied support you can recieve.

Your weap bonus will not affect the power of the allied support however, only the number (e.g. if you both have 100 jets, you will have an off power of 120 jets in this scenario, your ally will contribute 25 jets, not 30)

iforu Game profile

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Feb 24th 2012, 8:08:29

how about PS

i ps with 100 jet with no off ally.
with weapon of 10%

so it 110 x 150% OR 100 x 150% + 10

Pain Game profile

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Feb 24th 2012, 8:33:56

ive always added all modifiers (wpntech+govtbonus+PSbonus)/raw break to get my break but now after looking at the wiki i think thats wrong.

for example if i had a dict with 125% weapons tech and PSing 100,000 jets i would get an offensive power of (25%+25%+50%)*100,000 = 200,000 attack points.

according to the wiki though its tech%*govtbonus*readiness*raw offensive power*PS bonus. according to that formula 100,000 jets with a the same country would equal 234,375. so i think ive been way oversending for a long time. i guess thats my pang buffer :P

so iforu to answer your question 100 jet PS with 110% weapons tech is 1.10*100*1.50= 165 jets
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Xinhuan Game profile

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Feb 24th 2012, 11:31:48

Your off ally sends exactly that - 1/4 of his jets/troops/tanks, and these allied help gets no bonus modifier or penalty other than the PS bonus.

Edited By: Xinhuan on Feb 24th 2012, 17:11:35
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metygl Game profile

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Feb 24th 2012, 17:29:58

Does anyone know the current formula for how many acres total are grabbed (including ghost)?

Xinhuan Game profile

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Feb 24th 2012, 17:37:25

Not exactly, because the NW difference is a factor in the formula, and it follows some curve. You get the most % land attacking someone of equal NW in size.

tduong Game profile

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Feb 24th 2012, 18:04:36

nw factor is the biggest factor in % of land gain. Second is PS or SS then tech and gov bonus.
I've gotten hits that take 15% of land before as a tyranny. Then bonus ghost acres on top of that.

It's 3-8% without other bonuses. Match nw and you get 8%. Topfeed only get about 5%. Bottomfeeding someone less than half nw will get you 3%. I don't know exact formula but that is estimate based on experience.
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Pain Game profile

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Feb 24th 2012, 19:19:34

if you have 2 countries with even networth they grab 10% (non tyr) it goes up with tech and govt bonuses and down with networth differences.
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tduong Game profile

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Feb 24th 2012, 19:29:24

i can't confirm or deny that. But on the info page it says 3-8% and PS gives an extra 50% to that. So that sounds about right. It has been pretty accurate for me so far. I don't ever pull out a calc to get exact numbers but eyeing the numbers looks right to me.
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Pain Game profile

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Feb 24th 2012, 19:31:00

ohhh youre talking about SS. im talking strictly PS. i didnt know people still do SS attacks in solo servers.
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tduong Game profile

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Feb 24th 2012, 19:35:07

well, it depends on situations. Like if I want to farm a topfeeder that has no missiles and run 2/3 jets 1/3 turrets.
I wouldn't have enough jets to do 5 PS but i can do 2 SS and 2 PS with cash to spare for tanks as insurance :)

But to get the 8% i notice that I really have to come within 100k NW. That is not hard to do in express because of the amount of turns and cash you can work with.
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tduong Game profile

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Feb 24th 2012, 19:38:49

it's possible to make a 19% hit if you match nw almost exactly on a PS with a tyranny and 138% mil strat tech.

that is an ouch to whoever that has to take that.
Originally posted by blid:
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