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Jan 19th 2018, 21:07:15

Okay I'm back on this topic again. I understand the success probability %% is based on number of spies, spy tech, land and govt type.

Someone was able to spy me who is half my networth, but land to nw ratio is the same (they are fattish as well). I have 1m spies and 700k spy tech (142%).

I am starting to think that having high spies and lots of tech isn't worth the investment?

Does it all come down to a spy offense score? And if your target has less score (with same ratios) it is successful?

I've attempted to spy op bot countries who have 5k spies on 8k land and zero tech and I fail with 1m and high tech...

Just confused.

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Jan 19th 2018, 21:40:03

10 spal country can get op from 100 spal country on 1st attempt and 100 spal country can fail to get op from 10 spal country.

also spied out counts (although there shouldn't be any reason of bots being spied out) making it very difficult (not impossible but very costy to amount of spies) to get op.

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mrcuban Game profile

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Jan 20th 2018, 0:56:30

Losing 15,000 spies on a failed military spy op hurts :(

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Jan 20th 2018, 6:50:23

Most important factor is spies per acre of land. Essentially nothing else matters. Without giving acres there's no way to determine much here.

1m spies X your tech (1.43) / your acres = your spy power. Figure out both and post back.

That said, total spies also modify this and there's always random successes and fails. You can always just bounce a bunch and get anyones op.

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Jan 20th 2018, 9:17:11

as well as include the Spys from intel allys in calculating your Spal, as well as the person your Spying and his intel alliances. just like computing breaks

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Jan 20th 2018, 12:29:53

all you need is 10 spies and no tech eventually you will get the intel you want.
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Jan 22nd 2018, 19:03:51

Do failed attempts count towards being spied out and do number of permitted ops per day still reset at midnight GT?
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Marshal Game profile

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Jan 22nd 2018, 20:38:35

1. maybe

2. yes
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Jan 22nd 2018, 21:22:52

1. Absolutely not. Only harmful ops + military and market ops count toward spy dr. Standard spy, alliance spy and failed ops of any kind do not. There's a war tactic involving dumping 25 market ops on a waller to prevent bios. Kind of a big waste of turns tho. It does work tho. Drs tend to become obvious around successful op #25 on a single country assuming only harmful/military/market. Standard ops are also unaffected by spy dr. The effect only applies to the previously mentioned types.

2. You can do 50 ops at 23:45 and then 50 more at 00:01. So yes.

Edited By: DerrickICN on Jan 22nd 2018, 21:25:46
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major Game profile

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Jan 22nd 2018, 23:49:45

Mr. Cuban you are right, spies are just not worth it...

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Jan 24th 2018, 14:50:37

Originally posted by major:
Mr. Cuban you are right, spies are just not worth it...


Until you lose 700k of your oil stock!
Have a 1/3 of your buildings razed!
Have 1/3 your troops or jets destroyed!
Have 60+ Turns of population loss from bio terrorists!

Yup spies are as useless as turrets!
Don't have any means to protect your assets!

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Jan 24th 2018, 19:36:29

Yeah I've lost 23 MIL barrels of oil because of spies this reset who seem to know exactly when my oil returns *sigh*
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Jan 24th 2018, 22:27:35

Originally posted by Warster:
Yeah I've lost 23 MIL barrels of oil because of spies this reset who seem to know exactly when my oil returns *sigh*


I can safely say I have not targeted your country since my hitting spree with my original. Some others though might have not been so lucky.
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Jan 24th 2018, 22:49:50

I know it wasn't You :p
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