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andyxxx Game profile

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Apr 18th 2012, 3:13:54

top 40 country. 15m+ turrets looking for a D ally about the same size!!

andyxxx Game profile

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Apr 18th 2012, 3:14:12

PM me i suppose with how many turretsish u got :)

tduong Game profile

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Apr 18th 2012, 3:19:36

you probably want to look for turret strength. Last reset, my 25 mil turrets was worth more than jj's 50 mil turrets.

1 turrets strength = 2 defensive points.

Edited By: tduong on Apr 18th 2012, 3:21:38
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JJ23 Game profile

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Apr 18th 2012, 17:05:39

and yes i did have 50M turrets.

when i got broken, i had 45M approx with 2 good def allies.
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The way my 30m got busted was the ultimate in nobility and self-sacrifice because I could have simply canceled the alliance but I was too big a person to do so.

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Apr 18th 2012, 18:13:52

Originally posted by tduong:
you probably want to look for turret strength. Last reset, my 25 mil turrets was worth more than jj's 50 mil turrets.

1 turrets strength = 2 defensive points.
Huh? your ally's defensive bonuses don't give you more defense as far as i know
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Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

tduong Game profile

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Apr 18th 2012, 18:16:42

jj didn't have defense bonus. I did

but if you think it doesn't then test it out :)
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Xinhuan Game profile

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Apr 18th 2012, 18:51:30

Last reset, tdoung's had x1.25 (Dict) x1.5 (Weapons) x1.2 (def bonus). That's why his 25m turrets was worth more than JJ's 50m turrets (and JJ was a Republic too).

JJ23 Game profile

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Apr 18th 2012, 19:09:55

yeah i was a rep with 115 pct weap tech.
no D bonus.
Originally posted by blid:
The way my 30m got busted was the ultimate in nobility and self-sacrifice because I could have simply canceled the alliance but I was too big a person to do so.

JJ23 Game profile

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Apr 18th 2012, 19:10:18

so we were pretty even. also had 1M troops and 1.5m tanks.
Originally posted by blid:
The way my 30m got busted was the ultimate in nobility and self-sacrifice because I could have simply canceled the alliance but I was too big a person to do so.

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Apr 18th 2012, 19:12:29

Originally posted by Xinhuan:
Last reset, tdoung's had x1.25 (Dict) x1.5 (Weapons) x1.2 (def bonus). That's why his 25m turrets was worth more than JJ's 50m turrets (and JJ was a Republic too).
Yeah I get that, but I mean in terms of defensive ally.

If tduong had 25m turrets, his ally gets 6.25m turrets help and the only factor applied to that is the Pang/Mehul factor, I think.
Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:
Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

Getafix Game profile

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Apr 18th 2012, 19:12:38

Squeak! poop, poop

God! There it is again, and it was right

tduong Game profile

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Apr 18th 2012, 19:24:23

Originally posted by blid:
Originally posted by Xinhuan:
Last reset, tdoung's had x1.25 (Dict) x1.5 (Weapons) x1.2 (def bonus). That's why his 25m turrets was worth more than JJ's 50m turrets (and JJ was a Republic too).
Yeah I get that, but I mean in terms of defensive ally.

If tduong had 25m turrets, his ally gets 6.25m turrets help and the only factor applied to that is the Pang/Mehul factor, I think.


it goes goes by total def points. Not # of units.
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crest23 Game profile

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Apr 18th 2012, 20:26:54

Nope.
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jabberwocky Game profile

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Apr 22nd 2012, 7:46:10

it's definitely units. Ally weapons/govt does not change anything.

caffeineaddict Game profile

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Apr 22nd 2012, 9:04:37

Yup. Def allies are based on troops + turrets + tanks and their relative strengths.

I'd always rather havw a non-dict ally because they seem to think that they can have lower def units and that that's a good thing.

I sometimes spy alliances of dicts to see who their allies are because i know that it is unlikely that the ally will receive lots of def from the dict.

tduong Game profile

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Apr 22nd 2012, 16:30:44

so are you saying their # of units use your govbonus + weapons. Or are you saying allies units does not benefit from any govbous or tech at all?
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crest23 Game profile

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Apr 22nd 2012, 16:37:54

Govt type, tech, points have no effect on alliances. You have been doing it all wrong all along. Hence why I told you a while back that your "oversending like a mofo to make sure you break on a topfeed" did not make any sense.


WeaponsTech% * GovtBonus * Readiness * (Troops + Jets*2 + Tanks*4) + min(WeaponsTech% * GovtBonus * Readiness * (Troops + Jets*2 + Tanks*4), 0.25 * (AlliesTroops + AlliesJets*2 + AlliesTanks*4)) where min(value1,value2) = lower of the two values

Edited By: crest23 on Apr 22nd 2012, 16:41:15
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tduong Game profile

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Apr 22nd 2012, 16:53:39

That makes me question my luck as some of these LG where i caculated the gov bonus + weapons of allies and still bounced.

Whatever, at my size, I don't even bother to spy on allies. It doesn't save as much on losses as the spies I might/will lose or the cash I will lose spending turns spying. I'll take the extra loss and walk away keeping my spal up. The extra cash i gained from hitting the cash button more tha cover the extra losses.
In fact, almost 1/2 of my LGs are blind PS this set.
Originally posted by blid:
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crest23 Game profile

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Apr 22nd 2012, 17:01:59

Wow!
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