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Mar 23rd 2024, 13:11:38

The coolest 3 ppl on EE hands down:
dd, req & koh.

If you don’t know them you’re missing out on the best parts of this game.
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Mar 22nd 2024, 6:53:27

Yeah,. it's dumb.
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Mar 21st 2024, 2:11:40

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It appears I can't read..

Edited By: Celphi on Mar 21st 2024, 2:15:31
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Mar 20th 2024, 16:17:22

184.5

references:
https://eestats.lafamiglia-ee.eu/techcalc.php

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Fix your site! :D
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Mar 20th 2024, 4:14:49

@a-rod
You can't. That's my point.

Only way you can mitigate it is by:
1. reducing turns on hand (means fewer attacks)
2. increasing the number of bots <--- yes
3. make bots attack back (which would lower their dr by 1 each time they atkd) <--- yes
4. remove bots all together.
5. disguise bots (remove highlighting & poor naming function) <--- yes

my only issue with removing bots all together is you'd have like 20 total players & the market would be worse than TEAMs.
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Mar 20th 2024, 1:27:16

PS Mar 20, 00:47 area 51 (#6) Acele Acholate (#45) 51 A
SS Mar 20, 00:47 area 51 (#6) Acele Acholate (#45) 42 A
SS Mar 20, 00:47 area 51 (#6) Acele Acholate (#45) 41 A
PS Mar 20, 00:48 area 51 (#6) Greste Cryptmaw (#60) 58 A
SS Mar 20, 00:48 area 51 (#6) Greste Cryptmaw (#60) 45 A
SS Mar 20, 00:48 area 51 (#6) Greste Cryptmaw (#60) 46 A
SS Mar 20, 00:48 area 51 (#6) John Klek Gully (#70) 49 A
SS Mar 20, 00:48 area 51 (#6) John Klek Gully (#70) 51 A
SS Mar 20, 00:48 area 51 (#6) John Klek Gully (#70) 55 A
PS Mar 20, 00:49 area 51 (#6) Mysterious Tiger (#77) 59 A
SS Mar 20, 00:49 area 51 (#6) Mysterious Tiger (#77) 59 A
SS Mar 20, 00:49 area 51 (#6) Mysterious Tiger (#77) 60 A
PS Mar 20, 00:51 area 51 (#6) Zestia Van dirge (#33) 28 A
SS Mar 20, 00:51 area 51 (#6) Zestia Van dirge (#33) 17 A
SS Mar 20, 00:52 area 51 (#6) Capt Sofia De Belleville (#85) 64 A
SS Mar 20, 00:52 area 51 (#6) Capt Sofia De Belleville (#85) 50 A
SS Mar 20, 00:52 area 51 (#6) Capt Sofia De Belleville (#85) 41 A
SS Mar 20, 00:54 area 51 (#6) Looladin Gefirr (#20) 44 A
SS Mar 20, 00:54 area 51 (#6) Looladin Gefirr (#20) 37 A
SS Mar 20, 00:54 area 51 (#6) Looladin Gefirr (#20) 32 A
SS Mar 20, 01:18 area 51 (#6) Enoka Haston (#54) 77 A
SS Mar 20, 01:18 area 51 (#6) Enoka Haston (#54) 62 A
SS Mar 20, 01:18 area 51 (#6) Enoka Haston (#54) 50 A
SS Mar 20, 01:19 area 51 (#6) Luna (#37) 71 A
SS Mar 20, 01:19 area 51 (#6) Luna (#37) 58 A
SS Mar 20, 01:19 area 51 (#6) Luna (#37) 47 A
SS Mar 20, 01:20 area 51 (#6) Enoka Boldel (#65) 57 A
SS Mar 20, 01:20 area 51 (#6) Enoka Boldel (#65) 48 A
SS Mar 20, 01:20 area 51 (#6) Enoka Boldel (#65) 42 A

This is why it wouldnt matter if you lowered returns.
#6 current land is 2.2k land. He's spending 2 turns for 17-51acres (when the explore button would give same/better results from 1 turn). Makes 0 sense; but, proves my point that lowering returns will NOT deter a player from LG'ing bots.
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Mar 20th 2024, 1:18:41

lol @ galleri
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Mar 20th 2024, 0:33:43

Great job for the creativity & a starting point.

I don't think people will fully understand the amount of work involved to do what is outlined above. So keep that in mind.
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Mar 19th 2024, 5:54:59

This thread prob should get locked. Nothing good to become of it.
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Mar 18th 2024, 23:54:50

Originally posted by Devo:
I disagree. It has great potential but the 4 hour time to market makes it extremely difficult to be effective at arbitrage. Name a demo that made top 10 other than switching to demo for destock.

But demo could be much more viable all set long if TTM was reduced.


Which server are you referring to?
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Mar 17th 2024, 18:22:44

Calib at -5000 now lol.
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Mar 17th 2024, 8:31:40

To Superfly credit he has played more sets than 99% of the players here and only has only one.

The point here is none of us here are fckn’ perfect. Let’s move on.
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Mar 17th 2024, 8:25:55

It makes no sense of the number of threads you’ve created to attack someone of a behavior in which you yourself have done.

Nobody is blameless nor perfect.

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Mar 17th 2024, 8:22:04

I could care less if someone calls me a cheater. Really. It’s like a 5 year old calling me stupid.
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Mar 17th 2024, 2:27:57

I think Bony has the right idea but instead would recommend adding a live population field that exists on all pages where a player could see their population in real time. This hands down would be an awesome feature.
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Mar 17th 2024, 2:24:19

A+ added feature
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Mar 17th 2024, 2:05:28

I’m not playing on Alliance so I didn’t kill anyone.

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Mar 17th 2024, 1:58:55

I’m not justifying what he did., but using derogatory language to the point that warrants deletion is not much better than a person trying to create a coalition of players to go up against Darkness by inflating numbers.

At the end of the day the competition he created made the team server more interesting.
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Mar 17th 2024, 1:55:46

Purple is still purple.

Those comparisons you gave are radically different.

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Mar 16th 2024, 19:57:23

It's market intel. Seems reasonable to be part of market spy op.

Here's the thing. If you saw a country with 50 missiles, you know that country is likely going to attack someone.

Similarly if I saw someone had a SO for warfare tech at 5k it could indicate the direction of a country.

Also,. there are tricks of transfering wealth from one country to another not using FA. ie( buyout medical tech then sell your tech for $9999 and have the people with money buy it.) By seeing the SOs you could then sell your tech at 8k and undercut their sale.
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Mar 16th 2024, 19:44:05

lol @ this post
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Mar 16th 2024, 19:42:22

What I find interesting is that every person screaming about Milk's cheating has purple in their history too.

Hell even I do. Granted mine were due to attacking two different clans in one set which was against rules during Tela's reign.
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Mar 16th 2024, 19:37:26

165 	61 	Suicidal (#152) 	237	$56,981 	M 	Alpha
165 48 Suicidal (#151) 1475 $162,458 I Alpha
165 63 Suicidal (#145) 0 $30,866 I Alpha
165 Suicidal (#142) 1399 $242,129 I Alpha
165 Suicidal (#139) 2158 $223,744 M Alpha
165 Suicidal (#129) 4118 $326,059 I Alpha
165 Suicidal (#119) 2648 $358,820 I Alpha
165 Suicidal (#99) 1729 $407,327 I Alpha
165 Suicidal (#83) 1603 $288,073 I Alpha
165 Suicidal (#5) 2154 $254,098 I Alpha


Going for the most deaths award?
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Mar 16th 2024, 19:35:49

Clearly you cared otherwise you wouldn't have commented on it.
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Mar 16th 2024, 16:01:15

I think we need another thread to validate these results.
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Mar 16th 2024, 14:51:25

Yeah that sounds like a 500 error. Fatal errors typically have behavior like that.

It sounds like the variable which identifies the country you want to declare peace with gets reset (replaced with NULL) after you SS/PS.

Many times there are hidden inputs which have these values and likely after you attack this hidden value is likely not getting the value carried over. So when you declare peace you’re telling the database to declare peace with null.

Edited By: Celphi on Mar 16th 2024, 14:57:08
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Mar 16th 2024, 14:47:54

Where to
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Mar 16th 2024, 4:57:04

I give Slag a hard time but to be fair he’s actually going through the SUGs and BUGs & addressing them. Not to derail your intent of your thread man., I do appreciate the work you’ve done for EE.
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Mar 16th 2024, 4:54:40

As someone has already said., PCI means nothing. It’s like saying someone has 1 million SPAL but has 1 acre.
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Mar 16th 2024, 4:49:02

Even if you thwart their attack this round you’ll have to deal with them every set. Best to use diplomacy imo.
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Mar 16th 2024, 4:47:42

At the end of the day if someone wants to suicide your country it’s near impossible to prevent. That’s why it’s best to use diplomacy. Reach out to your attacker and look for common ground.
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Mar 16th 2024, 4:43:48

Track it? Kinda. It would require automation which is what many bots do which is technically against rules. The other option is to monitor eestats which is every 5 mins. (Which would be too slow of a notification)

Other tricks are to monitor jet/oil purchases on public market on irc. If purchases is made then peak at network increases of suspect country. Just depends on your attackers attention to detail.


Edited By: Celphi on Mar 16th 2024, 4:45:48
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Mar 16th 2024, 4:35:11

But a 500 error would do the same. So in sure Slag could see that in error log.
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Mar 16th 2024, 4:33:42

Possibly your ee cookie expired.

Are you sure you did those sequences without a large gap of time?
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Mar 16th 2024, 1:04:15

It's going to be easier to do the follow:

Create:
Country A
Country B

Ensure B has all their stats on advisor page are NOT 0.
Spy B from A.
Screenshot values before navigating away from page.
Open view saved spy ops.
Compare the saved values to screenshot values.

Added bonus: ( cant recall if this was still an issue)
Take 1 turn with country B
Review saved spy op on A & see if anything changed. (without spying again)

Edited By: Celphi on Mar 16th 2024, 1:07:01
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Mar 16th 2024, 1:01:09

It was transfered to a member in LAF so now they host it.

Though, there's some bugs on their site im not sure if they're aware of.
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Mar 16th 2024, 0:57:59

@Slagpit
Is the holdup on this the ability to send out emails?
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Mar 16th 2024, 0:53:59

You can find this here:
https://eestats.lafamiglia-ee.eu/alliance/country/514

click tab -> history
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Mar 16th 2024, 0:52:02

Esp when you see his networth dropped by 1/2 in 5mins.
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Mar 16th 2024, 0:51:02

Storm (#514)
Rank 480 Government Fascism
Networth $362,791 GDI No
Land 2,844 acres DR 42
NW / Land 127.56 Tag mars2025

GaMeTime: 2024-03-16 00:50:10

History
time name networth land special tag
2024-03-15 20:35:01 Storm $362,791 2,844 acres F mars2025
2024-03-15 18:55:01 Storm $361,891 2,824 acres F mars2025
2024-03-14 17:05:01 Storm $425,089 3,129 acres F mars2025
2024-03-14 17:00:01 Storm $955,614 3,129 acres F mars2025 <--------
2024-03-14 16:55:01 Storm $968,308 3,129 acres F mars2025 <-------
2024-03-14 16:50:01 Storm $551,611 3,129 acres F mars2025
2024-03-14 16:45:01 Storm $401,306 3,129 acres F mars2025
2024-03-14 16:30:01 Storm $300,495 3,129 acres F mars2025
2024-03-14 13:40:01 Storm $299,986 3,129 acres F mars2025
2024-03-14 13:35:01 Storm $299,815 3,129 acres F mars2025

Looks like he jumped in NW then sold his stuff
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Mar 16th 2024, 0:03:18

There's almost 80k rows. Kinda puts into perspective who has been here the longest..
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Mar 16th 2024, 0:02:37

MariaDB [ee]> select * from user limit 10;
+----+---------+---------+
| id | user_id | name |
+----+---------+---------+
| 1 | 1 | qzjul |
| 2 | 2 | Soviet |
| 3 | 3 | Earth |
| 4 | 4 | qz |
| 5 | 5 | Pang |
| 6 | 6 | |
| 7 | 7 | Turtle |
| 8 | 8 | Makinso |
| 9 | 9 | NukEvil |
| 10 | 10 | qzjul2 |
+----+---------+---------+
10 rows in set (0.001 sec)
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Mar 15th 2024, 19:27:36

I just don’t want to pay $10 a month hosting a site that only like 5 ppl use, otherwise I’d just put up a site that showed them all.
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