Feb 1st 2011, 7:18:30
Based on Highrock's comments and other comments earlier figured I'd add my two cents.
Back in my old earth days I too was quite into the "legitness" of finishes, getting aided over, bought-out over, or hit with multies time and time again. Kept thinking about "oh this isn't fair".
I'd argue against those that said "This is an alliance game, not an individual game, there for individual effort isn't as key as the group as a whole, what ever they chose to do to accomplish it"
Maybe it's that now I'm older, or maybe it's that I'm lazier and just don't care as much... But really they were right. Even more so now that we have active admin's so the primary game can actually be a place for solo's.
The alliance game is a team enviroment, it's meaning is to be as such. Help countries receive can come in many ways...
1. Pacts- Other than one or two members in the alliance, you're not being grabbed, or able to grab other people because of arrangements that someone else made. You didn't cause the other alliances to not be able to hit you, someone else did, that's aid.
2. DRing- since it was brought up earlier that GSing countries is by all means "non-legit" that works much the same way as Pacting. It prevents a country from being the target of another alliance due to the work of a few other members.
3. Buyouts- A few members sacrifice the networth they could have had to raise the networth of one or two. They do this to get not that person to a rank but to get the TAG next to the person to a rank. They want that TAG to get to whatever position it can get to due to the buyout.
4. FAing- much the same as buyouts except at a smaller scale. it has to do with increasing the tag in a way that would benefit the TAG by making it look better. Maybe a rank 10 instead of a rank 11, or 20. whatever the case it's not really for that individual.
5. Retallers- Even having a retal country in your tag, an early communist, or midset techer is a form of assistance. People are less likely to grab you because of them. You're receiving help from someone that goes once again beyond the bounds of your own country.
Basically, moral of the story is... Being in an alliance game we try to put away what our individual wants and focus on what the clan we play for wants or needs. What helps them the most.
During war times it's easy to figure out what that means, during peaceful times it's figuring out other things will fit in as well.
Could a member of SoF call an Omegan "non-legit" because they had more pacts than SoF this reset?
Could a Rage call PDM non legit, because they always had countries capable of retalling?
People get upset no matter what. Sofar this reset people have complained that Untags get hit too much then the same people complained about Lime and Emerald hitting eachother instead of the untags which is 100% the opposite of hitting the untags.
I quite honestly don't care who's legit and who's not. Right now I've received the help I need to hopefully get the placement that those in my alliance want. Oats has also got the help needed to get the place his alliance hope that he gets. Now it's up to us to try to get that spot, whichever one doesn't will feel like they let down their team on what their job was for the reset.
That's what it boils down to. Not what we want but what our team wants.
even just from the point of views of the alliances complaining.
Omega- Guys what? the first buy-out was done by them... was a pretty cool thing and worked out really well. They didn't think they'd get many high countries and wanted to show the game that they could play a role near the top and they did just that... and it worked :) Omega looked before this that they might be in membership trouble but it helped keep them strength to pull through, and... they're still around.
SoF- That first buyout country was run by the fuy who was president and founder of SoF. I don't think any part of him regrets that move, it was pretty fun and kinda cool that it happend back then. He always had very strong views on the game which are what helped mold SoF into the alliance they were and are still... It's helped them receive some ranks that reminded the community that they're not just War countries, that they can get ranks. This has helped them recruit.
LaF- A peaceful alliance almost every reset... they thrive on the placement of countries, it's common practice to help the few people who stand a legitimate chance of winning the reset to get higher positions. it's been that way for 13years. There's nothing wrong with that. By having the higher country positions they were always able to bring in new members and also became a place where people liked to retire to grow in peace and live up to the legacy the ranks gave. it helped thier alliance.
I haven't been around for so long that alot of the newer alliances I don't know much about... but I'd venture to say best on comments and insults that they have similar things in their histories.
Just remember you're clicking ALLIANCE when you enter this game. If you want a 100% solo experience, there's a different button to press.