NOW3P--

Name one war that PDM participated in in the last TWO YEARS where we warred someone smaller than us. I can't think of any, but you might be able to name one time or so.

Other than that, ALL the wars we've fought recently have been against alliances that are at least twice our size (SoF and LaF come to mind, which between them we warred around 5 or 6 times).

Hick, stop trolling.

I've said multiple times already that violence, death threats or whatever is an inappropriate reaction. If Muslims want to protest, that's fine. That's what America's all about. But death threats and the like are wrong.

that's fine. we pick fights with alliances bigger than our own. we always lose. but at least we got bigger balls than any other alliance out there.

@SS - Or I could just leave PDM and create a country every reset and suicide on LaF. It's thoughtless posts like yours that create suiciders. And LaF always fluffes and whines why it's targeted all the time by suiciders.

GEE I WONDER WHY.

If Paradigm is around next set, we will be, in the spirit of spicing up the game, enforcing 1:1 retals on everything, including incoming AND outgoing attacks.

Thus, if you "topfeed" PDM, we can retal you only once. If we topfeed you, we'll retal anything more than 1 retal.

This is for unpacted alliances or untags only.

I urge other alliances out there to adopt a similar policy, and let's see how the game changes.

Didn't the Sinn Fein attack and occupy a Canadian or American fort or something? Heh.

archaic, i don't think everyone mass-converting to atheism will solve anything. it's human nature to fight and cause death.

look at the eco-terrorists in the article i just posted.

humans will always hate one another. you take away religion, and we'll find another reason to hate one another.

Only Muslims are terrorists!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/...routine-traffic-stop.html

Oh I guess not.

GG.

Ehh...

As much as I want to bash on LaF and blame them for everything, I think that it's everyone's collective fault for the decline of the game.

I think everyone should stop being so anal with retals and just go 1:1 from now on to really spice up the game.

I was born and raised in the USA. I consider myself American. Why would I be less human than you simply because I believe a different creation story than you?

I think PDM might start doing 1:1 retals on everything including topfeeds and hopefully start a trend, but we'll see next set. It will be inviting a lot of attacks, but if enough people do it, I think it would be worth it.

"Lets just say I hope someday you are able to gain control over your emotions. It's amazing how much more enjoyable life is when simple things no longer bother you."

I'm sorry man, but it is becoming apparent that you aren't exactly sure what "to be offended" means. To be offended is to take an insult personally. This is not an emotional response. It is an interpretation of events. How you react to being offended is the emotional response.

Me, I don't react at all. I feel insulted, but it's not like I start shaking my fist in the air and throw stones at the embassy. So please understand that there is a difference between the emotion and the event.

But you have it confused.

Muslims are not the target audience. They are simply the target. They are the brunt of the joke, you see.

The target audience are people like you who get a kick out of ridiculing others (I am making an assumption about you, here, which may not be true since I don't really know you).

It's satire, yes, but it is meant to make fun of someone else, and even mirthful prodding can be insulting.

What if South Park made an episode about your mom getting fisted by some dudes? Would you laugh? Maybe. But I would be offended. Others would ask you why you were offended since it was just "satire".

Now I am not comparing the two in relative "offensiveness" scale, but the idea is the same. Some things you just get offended about when they directly relate to you. Other things that are not so important to you are funny.

That's just the way it is.

If it is irrational to you, then that is your right.

hoop, i explained to you already why it was offensive. did you seriously not read that part?? i mean it took up most of that post when i responded to you the first time!

if you disagree, that's fine. YOU'RE NOT A MUSLIM, so i don't expect you to agree. But don't call it "irrational" just because it doesn't fit your neat little paradigm of how life should be. there are lots of things that are irrational. why do humans kill each other? if we cooperated, it would make much more sense than killing one another!

Hold on. I'm busy spooning with Omar. He's very high maintenance.

Mullah Omar gave me a handjob last night while we watched suicide pr0n. I cheated on Bin Laden. Don't tell him, please!

see? he ignored it! case closed. lolololol

P.S. The Taliban was NEVER brought up in this thread.

Hick, you are stupid, and you're the first person on AT I've ever insulted personally.

When people blanket Islam and correlate it with terrorism, yes I get defensive, because terrorism is committed by EVERYBODY. And terrorism, no matter who does it, is detestable.

(Hick will not read that last sentence or he will twist it to make another attack on me. Watch and lol at how predictable the trolls are)

NOW3P, it is pointless arguing with these guys.

To them, if one defends Islam, they are automatically Taliban supporters. It's like calling someone an anti-Semite for criticizing Israel--it's juvenile, immature and makes no sense.

that's not true. we can afford old, decommissioned soviet tanks!

martian is n00b.

At this point, and I suppose I should have realized this at the beginning, it's futile arguing with hick, hoop & co. Nothing I say will convince them, so there's no point furthering the discussion.

"To you your beliefs, and to me mine." -quran

Standing Orders doesn't affect the game as much as a new government would.

I consider Standing Orders a tweak, not an actual change to the core game itself.

I got an idea. Why don't you stop fluxing with the formulas and give us a new government?

Even if you remove the cap, or lower it, or whatever, it's still the same damn game.

Give us something NEW! A new feature! Not just tweaks and auto-uploads. I'm talking about actually updating the game itself!

denied.

"I like to watch, Eve."

Taking offense is subjective anyways, so belittling others for what they take offense at is rather petty. To you your beliefs, and to me mine.

i don't need to be in the ceiling to watch people masturbate!

Thanks hoop for pointing out that I am not you, and you are not me. Thanks for also pointing out that anyone who does not think like you or share your beliefs is irrational.

"We have to have a deep, patient compassion for the fears of men and irrational mania of those who hate or condemn us." -thomas merton

LET THEM EAT CAKE!

I've made it a point of expressing my feelings towards terrorism in general in just about every post, so I won't repeat myself.

I only pray that it won't get glossed over and ignored like everything else I've written. :P

...masturbate.

fluff is the gay!

I am not making an argument. I am telling you why Muslims are offended. I am not trying to convince you. I am just telling you.

Some people get offended at topless beaches.

Some people get offended if you shake with your left hand instead of your right.

Some people get offended if you touch them.

Some people get offended if you insult them personally.

etc...

It's not for you to judge who should get offended by what as per your pleasure. It is for you to be understanding. No one is asking you to convert, but you should at least be sensitive to other people's feelings on things.

The second part of your post, I generally agree. The first part:

"How in the hell was South Park offensive?"

It is only offensive to Muslims. Yes, it really is offensive to me (I'm a Muslim). However, I don't mind being offended. I know it's satire so I just blow it off as trivial. However, it's the scum that take it to the next level (with violence) that is really disgusting, and from there we branched off onto the tangents.

Perhaps you are unaware of how it is offensive to Muslims, so I will explain. In Islam, characterizing the Prophet Muhammad is prohibited in all forms because it was feared that it could lead to idolatry or veneration of the Prophets (in fact, it is prohibited to make any representation of any of the recognized Prophets, which include Jesus, but many Muslims gloss over this fact). See what happened to the Virgin Mary and Catholicism? Islam is trying to avoid that sort of corruption in the religion. Also, the Prophet Muhammad, we believe, was the last Prophet and he was the one who revealed the Quran, so we hold him in a particularly esteemed position.

So yes, it is offensive. But these idiots who threaten violence can go to hell.

Hope that helps.

The difference, Braden, is Neil and I understand that in war, terrorism DOES happen, even if on an either remote or unintentional scale.

But you argue that ALL Muslims are terrorists/extremists, or believe that the majority of terrorism is Muslim, whereas in reality that is just not true. It is simply your opinion not based in any fact at all. You believe what you see on TV or read in dramatic tabloids, but you don't actually do any research on it.

So I advise before continuing this discussion, please go do some research on the topic and then we can go back to talking.

never seen that site before. thx.

afaik, if ES hadn't been down for the last few days for redesign, i would check.

You know when it says something like:

Apr 01/10 XX:XX:XX PM PS Country A (#XXX) (CLAN 1) Country B (#XXX) (CLAN 2) 600 A (+400 A)

Did that grab actually gain effectively 1k acres, or is that 400 included in the 600 figure?

So he got 400 acres but 200 ghost acres, or vice versa...or whatever?

I'm not sure what that references. Because if the number in parentheses is ghost acres, that's quite a bit of extra land.

(You can tell I've been running all-x's for awhile).

Eh...slagpit & co...

this is getting dangerously personal. you guys should probably calm down a bit.

i think everyone in this thread sounds like idiots, tbh.

i think the concept of "topfeeding" should be discarded from the game until it grows more.

there isn't enough land as it is, so getting stingy with retalling is lame.

I am not saying what is happening in Iraq is akin to the holocaust. I am saying that America foments anger against itself by perhaps inadvertently terrorizing other populations.

So you never stopped to think about it, eh? So only Jews are humans? The 13 year old Iraqi girl who was gang raped, shot in the head and had her home burnt down along with her family with it wasn't human, and that wouldn't cause any ill-will at all against America?

What about the Iraqis who had a dozen families decimated at a wedding because America dropped bombs on them because they thought they were terrorists?

What about the naked pyramids of prisoners of war (well, some of them at least) that were photographed in Abu Ghraib?

Oh wait. They're not Jews. Only Jews can be mistreated. Silly me. Why do the Iraqis hate our freedom and democracy?

Braden, did you ever stop to think that for some Iraqis who have had entire families slaughtered, perhaps America is their version of Hitler?

If you actually see things from their point-of-view, the perspective changes quite a bit. But we're so used to our righteous way of living, the "our way is the only right way" philosophy, that it becomes extremely difficult to relate and humanize the "other".

why?

why?

On a day-to-day basis, Jews terrorize much more often than Muslims do. They difference is that when Muslims do it, it gets mainstream exposure.

All you have to do is walk through the West Bank to see terrorism in action. The occasional tidbits you read about extremist settlers in the West Bank happens on a DAILY basis, but you only read about it once every few weeks or months.

My family has property in Palestine that has been demolished by settlers, and I've visited a family that almost had their house burned down by settlers (they poured gas under the door and lit it).

But saying that Jews are terrorists and generalizing is asinine and stupid as much as saying that Muslims are terrorists. Try not to generalize so much.

resolved.

n00b.

why?