thanks :)

ditto i got this error too in my country

Pang,

Just wanted to clarify.

I got this message after turn 10 of my batch explore:

A bonus has expired:
+10% Base Explore Rate
You Produced: 84 Spies.

But it seems like the batch explore actually explored using the +10% rate for the whole batch (unless I got really lucky). So I'm guessing the message was just coded in automatically at turn 10, but the bonus actually applies to the whole batch?

Thanks!

Pang,

are you sure that the explore bonus applies to all turns in your batch explore? i tested this out last night and i got a message 10 turns into my batch explore than told me the explore bonus ended...

haha that was kinda sorta almost omega's theme too

what happened to #586? dropped 16M NW and out of top 10 last minute...

there are other things too like logging in multiple times to catch landgrabs getting out of DR times and probably more that i can't think of now...

12 - 18 hour bonuses -> less turns for those who play more often than once a day -> less NW for more active players compared to less active players


military replenishment with 12-18 hour bonuses -> less NW for more active players relative to less active players

i still don't get why the 18 and 12 hour bonuses are there...it just encourages lazy players. the new system should completely drop them. it's not like we have a ton of players now to overwhelm the server like we did back then. and making PM replenishment and the bonuses go together is an even worse idea. now we can't even login to pick up cheap military without losing out. encourages even more lazy play and punishes more active players...

or maybe something like no attacking within the same tag and if you detag, you have to wait 24 hours before retagging into the same tag. you can tag into a different tag instantly.

How about no attacking of alliance mates? This would partially take care of the intra-alliance farming and also GSing into DR...

i think whoever finishes 11th should just FS Sof next set.

*watches myself finish 11th*

and there's no PM sell limit...

FA = one or more countries transferring money/NW to another country. The donor countries lose money/NW when doing this.

Therefore:

clearing bushels - not FA
farming tag - FA
oil buyout - FA

bushel clearing is not the same as a buyout because the countries doing the buying are not losing any money/NW.

at least this reset in alliance, the increased supply definitely hurt techers as tech prices were super low throughout. if you look at the potential top 10, it could possibly be almost all farmers and cashers.

so who's going to take the top spot? i think it's #37 easily unless Sof can carry #292 even more. is #37 the same guy who won last set?

haha so people should just not care about rankings or networth and enjoy building a country just for the fun of it, no matter how crappy? =P

As somebody who played the game 10 years ago during the good old days and just recently started playing, the problem I see with farming is not that it drives untags away. Those guys are untagged for a reason and they are not noobs. The problem, as Ruthie mentioned, is that it drives vets away. When I first came back, I was shocked to see that the alliance server became an all-X server basically. In fact, I didn't even know what all-X meant because all-X didn't really exist (or wasn't widely played) back in the day. Let's face it, all-X is not that fun to play. But everybody is forced to go all-X because of the excessive farming. I admit that I did some farming this reset for the first time (more than anybody in Omega, but less than the Evo guys), and it wasn't all that fun. I basically had to be super diligent and super obsessive about finding the right targets at the right DR time, and I only ended up with 25k acres. Basically for 90% of the server, even if they wanted to landgrab, they are unable to because somebody else has already farmed the targets to huge DR.

So yes, Laf/Evo farming sucks basically because it leaves other people/alliances with nobody to grab. You may say well that's their fault they just aren't as good at grabbing. While that may technically be true, that's not helpful in retaining vets. If this type of lack of grabbing/excessive farming continues, I can see myself walking away rather than playing all-X, because all-X is not fun. I can imagine other vets or would-be players feeling this way. So yes, if you don't want to drive people away, the farming needs to stop. But it's not a problem with Laf/Evo, they are just the target of criticism because they currently do it better than anybody else. The solution must be to increase landgrabbing targets, which is why I think the untaggged bots idea needs to be priority #1 for this server.

^ uh not true...at least recently

bump...

is there a reason why we can't do this? it seems like it shouldn't be that hard to have just one "buy" and one "sell" screen as opposed to separate ones for goods and tech. as it is now, the system hurts techers, who have to spend two turns to sell tech and stock. this might be a way to somewhat balance the previous changes that benefitted farmers.

Get the most for your money!
Public market prices are more favorable for Troops. If you were going to purchase those goods on the private market, considering buying from the public market instead.


Got this on the private market when the public market for troops was bought out in alliance. I think it's technically true because the public market price is $0 due to the buyout, but de facto false. Not a huge deal though, just thought i'd give a heads up...

my msn hasn't been able to connect the last couple days on my mac, but i can get it to work for windows using parallels.

lol Requiem i wasn't talking to you...you know you can just check the Omega site for my country number :)

and post your country number once you hit the 20B :)

I think it's a combination of

-a couple late starters
-a couple land thin techers
-more demos than usual
-very few grabbers and none that are nearly on the scale of the 4-5 fat Evo grabbers

If you take away Evo, we're right at the top of average land...Evo is just skewed by their 5-6 really fat countries whereas we are mostly all-X.

why don't IAs lose spies from allied failed spy ops?

what's your country number? i will FA you $10...

but theos with max mil tech has lower selling price than non-theos with equivalent mil tech i think

i think theos have a lower selling price, so they get a negative bonus...

the highest standing order is not the one that gets it necessarily...it's basically a line where whoever put in the first order gets it...so whoever had the longest standing order at $80 or higher got it.

food will get to $39 because all the MBRs must sell on the public market because those MBs will drop the private market sell price into the 20s. therefore, the price will converge to around $39/$40 toward the end of the reset. anybody who doesn't think so doesn't really know what they are doing...

oooh what were you gonna point out?

don't think it's been over 50 in alliance

never mind

"All old/former Evolution/RED/Short Fuse/un4given/Unknown/CCSGN/CCS/SGN members are welcome and encouraged to attend in the next reset, in which the purest and most glorious form of netting will (hopefully) take place on the Alliance server."


haha totally asking to get FS'ed...

ooohh noooo they're coming after us

can he stay untagged the whole reset and end up top 25 or top 10 even? would that be the first time in alliance history that a country stayed untagged and ended that high? or would he need to jump into a tag (Laf probably) at some point?

I buy one or two units of tech at a time to test to see if the tech on the market is my tech...

haha one of theirs also got untagged before we could finish our retals...and then it was farmed pretty quickly

what's the point in limiting the number of PS to 5? seems like if we removed the limits (and just keep the time penalty), we'd get better grabbing returns and penalize low defense countries more.

You really have to get better at this Bauer. It took your 16 country tag 2 days to kill my third best country. It took me and 4 of my already crippled half-dead countries 15 minutes to kill your top country.

Your turn.

haha then why don't you tell your members to stop wasting turns on me...

actually it's pretty clearcut what happened if you look at the news...

i was still involved with my thing with xNTSX.

IMP farmed me a few times without me ever touching them and then did the destroy missile spy ops.

I took 4 retals and pretty much got all my land back.

They didn't like that small tag players actually know how to play the game, so they tried to landkill me.

I took 2 more retals to get land back.

If they really wanted to kill me and weren't playing like noobs, they would know that one of my countries is actually almost dead from civ kills by xNTSx and would've been far faster as a civ kill than a landkill.

nah i actually only play alliance...so i'm just gonna take land from them til they actually kill me

i know what a kill run is...and that does not involve destroying missiles...

and i never touched IMP...they decided to destroy my missiles after they tried to farm me...

and if you're going to try to landkill me, at least do it with countries that don't have 0 defense that i can just take land from...

ooohhh btw IMP now decided to try to kill me too after I took all my land back on retals