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Boltar

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Mar 19th 2014, 20:13:13

ok im gunna roll everything into 1 thread

1) increase teams into even #'s for tech rings..

2) Roll back the returns thing for speed hitting (active wallers can wall easier not then before and we only have 5 countries to kill with now)

3) FA every 11 hrs instead of 22 (PS's are every 10 hrs instead of 20 like on alliance)

4) if netters or warrers can restart with a % of stock on the market, why not restart with a % of missiles u had at time of ur death

5) Get rid of the concept that untaggeds are a single country Tag. we all know thats bullfluff. that gives people like Gogy an advantage while topfeeding as he usually does

Edited By: Boltar on Mar 19th 2014, 20:16:45
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blid

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Mar 19th 2014, 20:32:15

No opinion on 1 & 2.
3 & 4 make sense.
Can you elaborate on 5?

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

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Mar 19th 2014, 20:57:33

regarding 5: remember the rule is that if someone hits multiple tags first (or one tag hits multiple tags first), multiple tags can hit him back.

1) makes sense
2) not sure
3) agree
4) I'm not sure why missiles weren't included. I think there was a reason given, not by me.

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Boltar

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Mar 19th 2014, 22:11:10

#2 is geared more towards wallers and the need to speed hit to kill.. slow is better.. by that time a waller is online..

#5 needs alot of elaboration on the mods side.. if its untagged and considered a 1 man tag, only 1 tag can farm it or no? this is a major grey area and needs to be addressed

blid

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Mar 20th 2014, 1:32:00

I thought they already expanded on that. Multiple tags can hit a guy for land unless there's reason for mods to believe it's organized. Multiple tags can hit a guy back heavily if he top feeds multiple tags. Etc.
http://www.earthempires.com/forum/post/548435/perm

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

Boltar

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Mar 20th 2014, 2:08:37

i understand that.. but this isnt a solo server untagged means untagged no? i know it was said.. but i need to know the justification

crest23

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Mar 20th 2014, 2:08:43

1. Sure.
2. No.
3. The game should be turn based not time based. Biggest flaw in the game.
4. No.
5. You do realize that multiple tags can farm a single tag right? Has been done before, will be done again. Hell, I have single handedly farmed a tag by myself.

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Boltar

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Mar 20th 2014, 2:17:50

crest i understand ur #5, but as per my talk with tellarion. if multiple tags farm a untagged.. and the untagged now considered a tag.. only hits 1 tag back with anything other then lg's... the rest is SOL if the untagged over retaled. imagine netting in those said tags.. and ur told u cant get ur land back if that untagged over retaled

blid

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Mar 20th 2014, 2:26:40

How are the rest SOL? Aren't you saying the rest haven't even been retaled at all? So how are they out of luck?

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

Boltar

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Mar 20th 2014, 2:36:39

like for example say 3 tags farm country or tag Z, then tag Z hits and retals a,b,c for more retals then is owed or past the retal window.. then tag z says fluff them.. and gs's tag A,.. tag b and c is SOL on the over retaling... as per a talk with a mod earlier today

blid

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Mar 20th 2014, 2:43:51

no they're not, if they were "over-retaled" (assuming that's not just an excuse for a multi-tag kill because a guy took his retals) they would always be allowed to hit back. As described here: http://www.earthempires.com/forum/post/548364/perm

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

Boltar

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Mar 20th 2014, 2:45:16

im telling u.. from my conversation with a mod.. they are SOL once the gs/br/ab/missiles start to fly

blid

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Mar 20th 2014, 2:47:27

Not true, I've been playing on Express and Primary for a long time so I have a pretty good feel for how all the 'coordination' rules work. Also I just added in a link to my post where martian says it specifically ("if one team attacks 5 different teams, all 5 teams can hit back"). This really isn't as tricky or complicated as you're worried it is, if a tag just plays straight forwardly and acts in its own interest, it WON'T get in trouble. If you can point to why you did something, and it's a legit reason, your appeal will go through even if you do get deleted.

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

Boltar

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Mar 20th 2014, 2:54:43

im not referring to deletion.. im referring to the 2 netting tags who are gunna lose the land.. supposedly once the first special attack is thrown.. all bets are off unless that tag throwing the special attack hits the other 2 netting tags (the example i used was 3 netting tags)

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Mar 20th 2014, 2:54:51

Originally posted by Boltar:

correct KoH anything with sex in it is our's plz DNH ty :)

Mods, just get it over with and delete them all.

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

Boltar

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Mar 20th 2014, 2:56:00

Originally posted by blid:

Originally posted by Boltar:

correct KoH anything with sex in it is our's plz DNH ty :)

Mods, just get it over with and delete them all.

wrong forum buddy

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Mar 20th 2014, 4:23:35

Add: option to boot people off your tag.

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tellarion

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Mar 21st 2014, 16:41:15

Originally posted by Boltar:

You can grab the guy back to get your land back, you just can't jump in on the kill run. If Untagged country A hits tags B,C,D and E a bunch, they can landgrab him back. If Tag B gets pissed and starts killing country A, then C,D and E better stay out of it.

tellarion

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Mar 21st 2014, 16:46:21

The gray zone, imo, is what constitutes 'killing'. Throwing a few GSes is not enough to 'claim' them as your own. Similarly, joining in on a gangbang of an untagged country because he grabbed your tag once doesn't seem appropriate to me given the spirit of the rules.

Unfortunately, THOSE are the type of situations where I don't think we can offer you a cut and dry ruling without seeing the context of the situation..

Boltar

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Mar 21st 2014, 16:46:29

this is that grey area.. why cant those tags get their justification if they feel that country deserves to die?

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Mar 22nd 2014, 2:27:48

Can we eliminate the use of the term "topfeed", please? It's stupid and makes no sense at all. Some players claim that just having more land than another country would make a hit by the smaller country a "topfeed", when in fact, it's just more powerful if it can take land from the larger country, assuming that the larger country has adequate defenses anyway. A lot of them don't have adequate defenses and then cry when someone comes along and hits them for land. I'm sick of the crying about it. It's way worse than the crying about bottomfeeders.

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hsifreta

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Mar 22nd 2014, 10:46:10

i like how this server's becoming more playable and legitimate. it's nice.

1. this and the problem with reps can be dealt with if we can pact across teams or outside teams.
2. unless if we have a lot more turns per team, making walling easier isn't necessary a nice thing.
3. same as 2. maybe spy ops max can reset in 12 hours too then.
4. if this happens, extend it to 1A. though it makes killing a lot less potent.
5. being untagged is the biggest tag, isn't it?

tellarion

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Mar 22nd 2014, 14:07:13

Originally posted by Boltar:

this is that grey area.. why cant those tags get their justification if they feel that country deserves to die?

As I asked you and Elves before, what would the point of killing them be? It would just make you feel better and feel like you got revenge. If someone else started taking care of it for you and that country is now fully occupied with staving off another team, then that's a win for you, no?

Boltar

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Mar 22nd 2014, 15:56:58

the point tella is, netgainers get satisfaction in getting nw and land no? warrers get satisfaction in killing something.. the way its setup, not even those who like to snipe can now try for that.. ur making 1 of the gamers happy and making the other half unhappy.. if a country is dying already.. who cares if another tag (who that person has hit anyway) starts hitting it.. its not exactly unprovoked

elvesrus

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Mar 24th 2014, 1:42:15

some people use networth, some use war stats like hits/kills.

if something hits me with more than just a friendly grab, I don't want my land back but they aren't going to keep it... note that the ways to do that are to generally cripple or kill, and there is no legit reason to deny a man his justifiable revenge. that being said

1. probably good to go to 6 instead of 5 so nobody gets screwed more than anyone else unless they have bad allies.
2. something needs to be done, but likely getting rid of the military losses DR thing
3. couldn't care less about FA one way or the other
4. everything or nothing. percentage of everything, or get rid of restart bonuses completely
5. meh

Originally posted by crest23:

Elves is a douche on every server.

blid

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Mar 24th 2014, 1:44:41

Originally posted by tellarion:

Originally posted by Boltar:

this is that grey area.. why cant those tags get their justification if they feel that country deserves to die?

qzjulSex just killed a guy for a single grab. Or because he hit two of the other sex tags multiple times?

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

Boltar

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Mar 24th 2014, 2:19:07

Blid report in game or send tella or another mod info to look at it. Thread is to help fix resolve or discuss changes. Not to flame

Trife

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Apr 1st 2014, 21:47:26

Originally posted by blid:

qzjulSex just killed a guy for a single grab. Or because he hit two of the other sex tags multiple times?

That's our retal policy. We reserve the right to kill over a single landgrab. Don't like it? Don't hit us.

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Apr 2nd 2014, 18:53:19

Originally posted by Trife:

Originally posted by blid:

qzjulSex just killed a guy for a single grab. Or because he hit two of the other sex tags multiple times?

That's our retal policy. We reserve the right to kill over a single landgrab. Don't like it? Don't hit us.

pew pew

Gee, now that I know Trife is playing here and where he is playing, I'm gonna have to round up a team of killers and kill him for juts playing, since that will be our policy here. NO TRIFE, KNOW STRIFE!

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hsifreta

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Apr 3rd 2014, 3:44:44

Originally posted by Cerberus:

Originally posted by Trife:

Originally posted by blid:

qzjulSex just killed a guy for a single grab. Or because he hit two of the other sex tags multiple times?

That's our retal policy. We reserve the right to kill over a single landgrab. Don't like it? Don't hit us.

pew pew

less talking more action

mdevol

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Apr 4th 2014, 7:16:17

I like team server

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