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starstalker4

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Jul 26th 2010, 19:38:56

in express a guy had $1.1 billion
a spy op by me with $100M in cash blew up $1.7M
that is too low a result

i suggest morphing this spy op into "HACK INTO BANK"

the spy country gets to keep some of the cash
it does not disappear from the game

just as the no drop land rule prevents land from disappearing from the game, this rule will make sure that money does not disappear

in keeping with the concept that the spy country must possess items similar to those being attacked, a spy country must have some cash on hand in order to keep much of the booty (see the tips for causing dissension)

so my exact proposal is this

under the new hack into banks spy op
spying country captures or destroys .5% of the target country's cash on hand
spying country retains the value of 10% of its own cash on hand while the rest is destroyed
if you can win a game without ever fighting a battle; it is not a war game

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Jul 26th 2010, 21:08:23

yea we're going to review these harmful ops at some point, and probably increase their effectiveness... but it'll have to be a careful balance for sure
Finally did the signature thing.

enshula Game profile

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Jul 26th 2010, 22:03:42

why not make it so max damage is caused when you have the equal amount of cash?

enshula Game profile

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Jul 27th 2010, 0:10:30

8.1 hours ago
Enemy operatives blew up banks containing $1,716,892 of cash!

8.1 hours ago
Enemy operatives blew up banks containing $1,717,240 of cash!

8.1 hours ago
Enemy operatives blew up banks containing $1,717,588 of cash!

8.1 hours ago
Enemy operatives blew up banks containing $1,717,935 of cash!

8.1 hours ago
Enemy operatives blew up banks containing $1,718,283 of cash!

8.1 hours ago
Enemy operatives blew up banks containing $1,718,630 of cash!

8.1 hours ago
Enemy operatives blew up banks containing $1,718,977 of cash!

8.1 hours ago
Enemy operatives blew up banks containing $1,719,325 of cash!

8.1 hours ago
Enemy operatives blew up banks containing $1,719,673 of cash!

8.1 hours ago
Enemy operatives blew up banks containing $1,720,021 of cash!

8.1 hours ago
Enemy operatives blew up banks containing $1,720,368 of cash!

8 hours ago
Enemy operatives blew up banks containing $1,720,715 of cash!

heres the news of his ops' personally i feel that killing 1.6% or so is fine on large amounts

and you can see by the amount increasing slightly each time that his problem was he didnt have enough cash on hand

btw he says he thought i was a multi and got someone to hit him, looking at his news though the idea that anyone must be associated with me is silly

he was #72 btw

sets over now so mentioning stuff shouldnt be an issue

enshula Game profile

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Jul 27th 2010, 0:14:22

1.8 days ago
Spies infiltrated your research labs and stole 692 points of technology!

1.8 days ago
Spies infiltrated your research labs and stole 720 points of technology!

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1.8 days ago
Spies infiltrated your research labs and stole 1034 points of technology!

1.8 days ago
idonthepnowhiteyfarmers (#72) attempted to commit espionage in your laboratories! You killed 7 enemy spies.

1.8 days ago
Spies infiltrated your research labs and stole 1033 points of technology!

1.8 days ago
idonthepnowhiteyfarmers (#72) attempted to commit espionage in your laboratories! You killed 7 enemy spies.

1.8 days ago
Spies infiltrated your research labs and stole 1034 points of technology!

1.8 days ago
Spies infiltrated your research labs and stole 1033 points of technology!

1.8 days ago
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1.5 days ago
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1.5 days ago
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1.5 days ago
idonthepnowhiteyfarmers (#72) attempted to commit espionage in your laboratories! You killed 1177 enemy spies.

1.5 days ago
Spies infiltrated your research labs and stole 1141 points of technology!

1.5 days ago
idonthepnowhiteyfarmers (#72) attempted to commit espionage in your laboratories! You killed 1177 enemy spies.

1.5 days ago
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1.5 days ago
idonthepnowhiteyfarmers (#72) attempted to commit espionage in your laboratories! You killed 1177 enemy spies.

1.5 days ago
idonthepnowhiteyfarmers (#72) attempted to commit espionage in your laboratories! You killed 1177 enemy spies.

1.5 days ago
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1.4 days ago
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1.4 days ago
idonthepnowhiteyfarmers (#72) attempted to commit espionage in your laboratories! You killed 1177 enemy spies.

1.4 days ago
idonthepnowhiteyfarmers (#72) attempted to commit espionage in your laboratories! You killed 1177 enemy spies.

1.4 days ago
Spies infiltrated your research labs and stole 1124 points of technology!

1.4 days ago
idonthepnowhiteyfarmers (#72) attempted to commit espionage in your laboratories! You killed 1177 enemy spies.

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1.4 days ago
idonthepnowhiteyfarmers (#72) attempted to commit espionage in your laboratories! You killed 1177 enemy spies.

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1.4 days ago
idonthepnowhiteyfarmers (#72) attempted to commit espionage in your laboratories! You killed 1137 enemy spies.

1.4 days ago
idonthepnowhiteyfarmers (#72) attempted to commit espionage in your laboratories! You killed 1114 enemy spies.

this was all he did to me so i dont see why i should be the one so upset when he did much worse to others

i had very few spies the first time, 100ish, maybe 70k for the 1.4day ones on perhaps 10k acres, and 90k on 14k acfres for the bomb banks ones

so they seemed pretty effective to me all getting through

starstalker4

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Jul 27th 2010, 10:16:29

one million is not one percent of one billion
one percent per op would be much more fair





for example look at how much damage can be done blowing up aircraft
one country and his multi can blow up 2.3 million jets out of of 3.6 even though their spal is a fraction of the target country's
the cynical among us would say that is because spy ops are designed to be much stronger against warriors than they are against netters

if spy ops against banks, food and oil were the same percentages as against jets that would be much more fair

suppose u could steal jets how cool would that be
if you can win a game without ever fighting a battle; it is not a war game

enshula Game profile

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Jul 27th 2010, 11:30:47

1.7m is more than 1% of 100m which is how much you said you had

bomb airbases is very effective, its roughly the same as the troop one which ive had happen to me on occasion

the differance is though that with the bank one you gain something as well as destroying something, thats why its harder to balance

the troop and jet ops are powerful against grabbing netters, and netters who have jumped, the troop one also helps smaller war countries kill bigger ones

starstalker4

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Jul 27th 2010, 17:23:07

i dont want to argue with someone who can not spell difference

if you can win a game without ever fighting a battle; it is not a war game

starstalker4

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Jul 27th 2010, 17:23:22

i dont want to argue with someone who can not spell difference

if you can win a game without ever fighting a battle; it is not a war game

diez Game profile

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Jul 28th 2010, 5:41:14

I think the bomb banks op is good. It's unfair when your opponent has so few money in hand and they can destroy 1.7% of the money you have in hand.

starstalker4

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Jul 28th 2010, 19:58:40

currently they are destroying .1% that is way too low
that is true even when they have $100M cash on hand

if you can win a game without ever fighting a battle; it is not a war game