I don't get a chance to read very much of this forum, so if this has been posted already, please delete this thread instead of flamming it.

I noticed today in FFA we got raped by 2 untags. Farmed the hell out of us. -- Right after the hits, they self-deleted. I looked into some more events that had taken place over the course of the current reset and it has happened multiple times.

Can you put something in place to accommodate the not being able to drop all your land with 24-48 hours of making the hits? This is just an easier method then dropping land is.

not allow deleting of country within 24-48 hours of making attacks i think would be a solution

You can self-delete? Cool. I didn't know/remember we added that.

Yeah, I want my 90k acres back :-P

But yeah, there is not point in not allowing countries to drop acres (Well, I guess there is, but BLAH) if you allow them to self-delete. At least allowing self-delete after farming the fluff outta someone kinda blows donkey fluff

why not just allow self deleted countries to still be grabbed or spied or whatever for either the rest of the set or 24 or 72 hours or a couple of weeks or whatever

the player cant log in anymore so they shouldnt care unless they are just trying tohurt someone

imagine the amount of land farms you could make for yourself.

lets say you made a 5k acre country then deleted it and made another one

besides other people being able to grab it your now behind in turns for all the turns you spent getting to 5k

*shrug* i guess so. i was thinking along the lines of express where, even tho when u restart, most of your turns are stored, u still get quite a lot of turns when u restart.

do understand your point tho.

i thought in express you only get 50 turns due to people exploiting it in the past

you get 50 turns, but the other 350(or so) come stored.

but i guess that still means you'd have to wait 4 hours(put you at 110 turns) to be able to actually hit the country. so yea. point taken.

TTT since this fluff just happened again and he self-deleted. If this is not going to be taken care of please let me know so I can act accordingly. Thanks.

if express works like that its sort of exploitable

youd have to wait 100 minutes to attack

then youd get double attacks for the next 10 hours

so roughly a 12 hour cycle and slightly under double attacks for the whole set, if your n humanitarian range

We're deciding on an exact mechanic for this atm.

being able to grab dead countries is the simplest one, perhaps make it so it doesnt show up in tag news to prevent people retalling for dead countries

if its limited to 24 hours that would mean killd countries wouldnt yield much but self deleted countries would

if its longer then it keeps land in the game which should be a positive

not sure how many days would be needed to fully recoup land from someone farming a lot of stockpiling countries but id guess it would be possible to grab enough it couldnt be gotten back inside 72 hours

plus others can also grab so maybe that shouldnt be the goal

So this has happened to me twice since this post was made. I think the simplest solution is for some amount of time (I think 72 hrs), a self-deleted country should be able to be attacked by anyone. I think clans can figure out whether or not if you attack a self-deleted country in their tag it is retallable.

i dont think it should show as tagged since dead countries now dont count to clan totals in country net and average

Thanks =)

I think they should remain tagged! =)