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KeTcHuP Game profile

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May 27th 2011, 17:09:29

ANy concideration been made to this? Two solo tags, one which recently detagged, are in contention for ANW, with 2 tags of 200+ countries.

Recomend a limit of 45 or 50 to make it fair.
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Jade Penn Game profile

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May 27th 2011, 17:14:19

it's always been that way. it would be like the one/two man tags asking for the total networth to be limited to 16 or 30 top countries.

KeTcHuP Game profile

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May 27th 2011, 18:39:52

It has always been this way, but if you've followed EE, they have improved on flawed concepts from E:2025. I feel this is one. A member detagging with 3 days left should not be able to win ANW IMHO. If people disagree thats kool, last time i recomended it it got good feedback jsut seeing if its on the to-do list, or they decided not to do it.
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Jade Penn Game profile

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May 27th 2011, 19:21:55

detaging to tag up is not the right thing to do but one/two man tags play for the ANW title as they have no chance at total net no matter how good they are. Take away that and you might as well just put in that no tag can exist unless it has 50 or more countries taged up. If you don't have 50 in the tag they appear as untagged. That would not be good for the game. Do you really want to run one/two man tags off the server with as few players as there are at this time?

KeTcHuP Game profile

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May 27th 2011, 19:41:02

no, but id like 1-2 man tags to join ujp together.
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Jade Penn Game profile

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May 27th 2011, 19:54:09

alot of time they do given time. most of the time thier playing in one/two man tags to avoid the headachs idiots cause in larger clans or because they are new to the server. As they learn who they can trust smaller groups form. Me and Dragon for example started talking because we were battling it out for ANW title as solo tags on earth2025. We did not detag though we played the tags from start to finish. Some play in one/two man tags because they want to net but the clan they play in wars every set. They love thier clan but want to net once in while so they will not join another clan. if there is nothing to shoot for as a one/two man tag why play at all. I guess they could make a sever for 16 country solo man tags to test such skills but again I don't think there is enough players for that.

Havoc Game profile

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May 27th 2011, 19:55:02

I agree with this.

At least >16, or >32.
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Rockman Game profile

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May 27th 2011, 20:04:04

Originally posted by KeTcHuP:
no, but id like 1-2 man tags to join ujp together.


Paulie tried that. But it didn't work.

But ESD/GDI has done that and its worked.

It didn't work for my tag because the only other person only joined to fight a war that was much easier than we expected (Stones had 90 countries at the time, and NONE of them chose to defend Paulie), and he had no interest in netting, and lost internet for a week at one point in the set.

One of the main obstacles to 1 man tags merging to make a bigger tag is that they become a more likely war target if they are bigger. That could be solved by having more 1v1 wars in FFA (such as LCoH and Tex were having before bsnake interfered).

Different 1 man tags also have different political ambitions, ones that may not mesh well with the other 1 man tags.

Jade Penn Game profile

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May 27th 2011, 20:09:18

LOL, if the large clans want the ANW title or triple crown then they should earn it. doing buyouts, selffarming and such to boost a country to the t10 cost you some on the ANW. In this game choices have to be made. You have to give a little something to gain a little something somewhere else. I understand how frustrating it can be being very near a goal only to have it taken away but that's not a reason to change the game.

qzjul Game profile

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May 27th 2011, 20:41:00

It wouldn't be too much effort to do this; i'd have to change it so we could set the min ANW # on a server by server basis, but that wouldn't be too hard...
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Jade Penn Game profile

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May 27th 2011, 20:54:11

also has anyone considered how many complaints there would be if 3 or 4 one/two man tags joined up in the last days of a set to take the title after not being noticed at all?

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May 27th 2011, 21:21:27

ya know qz, difficulty of performing a task doesn't mean it's advisable ;)

my next question is, would people complain if it were 2 people running 8 countries each in one tag :P yes. even though it would technically be a 2-person tag and thus, according to this thread, acceptable, there would still be fluffing and whining.

aponic Game profile

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May 27th 2011, 22:34:29

this is a good idea for the same reason the limit was made in the original alliance server. this is a server for alliances and not individuals. in the spirit of the server, make the limit 48 countries (3 players)
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diez Game profile

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May 27th 2011, 22:42:14

I think it'll be good if you can keep the limit at 16 countries, but make it so only a clan that is at least one month old to count.

Surviving FFA with a solo tag is certainly hard, if you do it from the start.

Jade Penn Game profile

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May 27th 2011, 23:07:33

that's a good idea diez. it would be fair to everyone.

qzjul Game profile

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May 27th 2011, 23:10:59

limit currently is not 16, it's 10
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aponic Game profile

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May 27th 2011, 23:47:12

I disagree that you should qualify without other players. I stress that it is and alliance server
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diez Game profile

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May 28th 2011, 0:10:25

what if I play 8 countries in one tag, and i have a pal play 8 countries too in that tag?

lol

sorry for my previous statement, I'll rephrase "solo tag" into "small tag" :)

Jade Penn Game profile

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May 28th 2011, 0:32:10

I disagree it's not alliance server. It's a Free For All server and all includes solo player tags as well as large clans. unlike the other servers it's a mix.

Slagpit Game profile

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May 28th 2011, 3:39:52

This strikes me as kind of self-serving.

Rockman Game profile

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May 28th 2011, 3:47:40

How about any alliance that self-farms and then detags the farms later that set is disqualified from the ANW race.

How come TKO can drop some of its players that aren't netting, when TKO uses them as landfarms for #335, #336, #337, #338 and more, but a smaller tag can't drop countries that aren't netting that weren't used as landfarms?

Seems like a double standard here. If you want to whine about people detagging, at least make sure that all of your landfarms stay tagged up all set.

Edited By: Rockman on May 28th 2011, 3:56:18
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Havoc Game profile

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May 28th 2011, 4:41:50

I don't think he's whining, just pointing out an issue. I like diez's idea though.
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Drinks Game profile

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May 28th 2011, 7:22:26

TKO doesnt detag players.

Look at it now and you will see we have members with 30m avg nw. While we have members with 100m+ avg nw.
Plus those countries that detagged was Diez, who declared war on IMP like 2 weeks ago.

I dont even care if a true 16 man tag wins in avg nw. As long as he/she didnt just drop out in the last week in order to take the win.


So goodluck to xXx.

But rockman. I love how he posts in other threads all the time about playing the game how its meant to be played.
Clearly dropping out of a tag in the last week to win avg nw isnt how its meant to be played. Nice double standards there.

Edited By: Drinks on May 28th 2011, 7:28:05
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Rockman Game profile

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May 28th 2011, 16:48:25

ZDH only joined my tag for the war, he wasn't netting. Diez only played this set to war, he wasn't netting. I dropped out to make 100m anw, not to win ANW. If I wanted to win ANW, I would have had a netting set and played a theocracy, or even jumped as a theocracy.

KeTcHuP Game profile

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May 29th 2011, 0:03:15

you would have been 100m anw if u didnt detag
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Drinks Game profile

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May 29th 2011, 0:03:22

Anyway. I Support the idea of tags having to be around for a month to be included in the avg nw rankings like diez said.

Or if thats too hard to implement. Then make it they must have 32 countries as the easy fix solution.
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aponic Game profile

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May 30th 2011, 22:33:53

Just make the cap 32 countries. It pretty much takes the middle road of what everyone said and it is an easy fix.
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Jade Penn Game profile

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May 31st 2011, 1:32:44

While I do not like the idea of people detaging and tagging up solo. I still strongly disagree with taking away a players incentive to play solo the whole set. It is a real skill of the game to be able to play 16 solo through out the set and the only thing you can shoot for as a solo is the ANW title. The FFA is the only server that is a mix of large clans, small clans, 2/3 man tags and solo players. Trying to make it more like alliance and team servers is not a good idea.

Havoc Game profile

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May 31st 2011, 3:52:41

Yeah, I have nothing against a 1 man tag playing out the whole set solo and surviving to win ANW. I think that's what sets ffa apart from the other clan servers in that 1 man tags/untags are generally given more respect in ffa.
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Requiem Game profile

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May 31st 2011, 4:49:11

You could use your lower members to BR, AB, LG, and destroy said 10 member tag then de-tag them to make sure they don't win ANW.

llaar Game profile

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May 31st 2011, 20:12:58

just kill them if you dont like them

Drinks Game profile

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Jun 1st 2011, 13:05:53

Wonder how long that would last. Killing or suiciding on all 1 man tags lol.

Would just cause suiciding back
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