They are a market action and should be visible when one does a market op.

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The intel ops should be given more power in general and this would be a step in that direction. There should be less things in the game that are unknowable.

I also want a news spy, and a spy on spies where you can see incomming and outgoing news(that do not show up on eestats) and ops.

I have suggested all this on multiple occasions. I'm glad I'm getting some support for it!

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Did you have another perceived use of such an op other than monitoring incoming ops for potential spy DR? That's the only productive use I could think of offhand since incoming FA during a series of attacks/kill-run is pretty obvious usually. I suppose if someone had a handful of easy espionage targets they were using one might could more easily hijack them after spotting it in outgoing op news.

Spy DR yes and to find offender for hostile ops.

So eliminate successful ops being anonymous you mean?

Yes, if you identify who did them there should be a way to make sure during the round.

If you fail, they are identified so I'm not sure what additional confirmation would look like or be necessary. The game identifying someone on a successful op seems to drastically diminish spy purpose. Decent SPAL and spy technology already contributes to identifying the player. I only see that useful in cases where the end goal would be for a player to have very low or 0 spies. I suppose if the game heads further in the direction of less and less in-game player interaction, those cases are increasing... but then such a change seems less necessary (no op news worth seeing at all).

Now he wants spyGDI? I mean....you already ruined 1a so...why not as long as you don't fk up the other servers...

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I've read the above comments and I rescind my votes for this sugg.

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It’s all good imo except the spy on spy ops thing I think. A
Successful op should prob always be anonymous.

+1 for standing orders

-1 for identifying countries on successful ops

I think the next step in 1a is to eliminate harmful ops followed by spyGDI....like I said before PvBots server.


1a has been hijacked by a bunch of fascists!

I agree with you, if you are that curious just wait until the set is over to find out who did what op.

+1 for SOs

What would you do with the additional information of seeing standing orders for another country? How would it influence your play?

One could sabotage or potentially intercept a possible upcoming market transfer for starters.

It's market intel. Seems reasonable to be part of market spy op.

Here's the thing. If you saw a country with 50 missiles, you know that country is likely going to attack someone.

Similarly if I saw someone had a SO for warfare tech at 5k it could indicate the direction of a country.

Also,. there are tricks of transfering wealth from one country to another not using FA. ie( buyout medical tech then sell your tech for $9999 and have the people with money buy it.) By seeing the SOs you could then sell your tech at 8k and undercut their sale.

Yeah, it would be an excellent way to block market transfers. You could see what the low price is set as in an attempt to get some of it/ mess up a transfer.

The biggest threat right now to fair competition is market transfers– on alliance-based servers.

This was how *** boosted their guy into the top 10 last set. Technically its not cheating. I mean everyone needs tech. If you're willing to buy 1 million Med tech for $9000 thats your prerogative, but it was on sale for $505 just a few hours ago...
Anyhow, yes a market op could include more info. Maybe make it a separate op? Regular market op vs advance. The advance slightly increased difficulty.



Ignore any suggestions by Gerdler. His ideas always follow one path.

Thank you for your consideration.

Interesting.

This was done in change set 23.