ok. made some slight changes to the code in which the techer bots use to decide what to do on a turn. If i did it right, hopefully it means they might tech a bit more. who knows tho, i might have just made it worse =) watch this space! even if i haven't done a great job of it, i plan on letting them run the full round. might make some adjustments for the round after.

Thanks for keeping up on this, I think a few changes might be needed. Especially to techer.

More tech will probably be a good thing to adjust pricing, I know others have advocated adjusting how other strats grab tech and at what price.

Are the changes up to date on github or anywhere else?

should be on github.

The techer Code on jhagsmaa that I find is 8 months old. But iZarcon posted the changes so that is enough for now! :)

izarc has no access to qz's github prolly.

i have forked the github, but i won't be committing any code to it until i've finished a bit of rewriting. the code live right now is just a simple patch to qzjul's.

May I ask how you are monitoring the bots? I mean what stats do you look for to see if they are successful and if the ratios between the strategies are reasonable?

do they learn as they go like the T800's?

no

Turning out to be a nice casher reset this time around, played casher two sets in a row but decided to change, haha.

Turrets/jets at 60ish and tech at 1500-2000. A couple of late-starting cashers are going to have fun with this. :P

that's normal.

That's lower than average, certainly not "normal". This early in the set, tech is still over 2k on average when bots are playing.

The military prices definitely seems lower than average as well. Although I will admit they are usually pretty low at this point anyway.

Certainly not normal. There may have been sets like this before but not the last 3 sets.

I think the tech prices come to a degree from the techer bot changes but I see very few human cashers so far and I think that is about to change with the late-starters who have yet to decide.

don't human cashers play late in express anyway?

but yea, i mentioned the possibility of boosting an already great casher strategy in the AI board thread related to this.

I needed that inside information! I should have went casher.

Update: The market seems to have normalized to what I would expect at this point in the game.

Can someone guide me how to identify whether its bot or not........

looks so confusing....

- They never join GDI
- They have odd military makeup.
- They NEVER attack
- Their names are generated from random words.

They have Stupid names ! And there Tech looks strange , and the military is stupid looking too.

Looks like the techer bots no longer fail. Which means it is working as intended. If there is a balance issue it is related to the ratios of the different bot strategies, not the script change. Plus the effort/skill required for grabbing has increased slightly as all the bots now have defence after a few days.

They frequently have names like the x of y
The hordes of this, the scourge of that.
Classic example is Land of the Kings.
If you ever see that bot, pound it mercilessly because on the twelfth Land Grab the site awards a special bonus.

Another good clue is that if you do not get ABed 100 times on Saturday night by 5, then that guy you quad tapped on Thursday is probably a bot.

Hope this helps.

Haha!

You jerk, I'll never get my 13th top 10 with that country name now!

336 2 Land of the Kings (#55) 15,803 $27,713,910 HG
237 5 Land of the Kings (#3) 14,665 $21,584,749 RG
161 5 Land of the Kings (#90) 10,319 $19,843,659 HG
160 5 Land of the Kings (#93) 10,762 $18,606,095 HG
358 6 Land of the Kings (#105) 177 $30,657,761 HG
162 6 Land of the Kings (#122) 12,040 $18,483,157 HG
38 6 Land of the Kings (#47) 13,544 $13,429,575 CG
163 6 Land of the Kings (#57) 10,515 $20,487,401 HG
84 7 Land of the Kings (#109) 17,151 $21,085,447 HG
183 9 Land of the Kings (#100) 13,444 $17,899,663 RG
316 9 Land of the Kings (#43) 12,498 $18,707,909 CG
238 9 Land of the Kings (#83) 16,234 $21,894,554 HG

Haha

To get back on track... a techer should easily win this round.

Tech prices have been great all set, food and oil have both been very low.
Military prices haven't been bad either, so I suppose there is a chance that a C/I steals it.

iZarcon if you need some assistance with redesign of EE or bot scripting let me know. I have more free time from work.

As I recall, we are still waiting for that neural interface.

I made a redesign of the front page. It's not much of a change, but I think my design looks better.

Keep in mind I don't have any of the links attached. Also, this is just a mobile version.

http://www.celphi.org

Nice :D

Scorecard:

Top 10
8 Techers, 1 Indy, 1 casher.

Ranks 11-20
6 more techers, 2 cashers, 1 indy, 1 farmer

Conclusion:
The techer bot change didn't create a free win for the cashers. It did however make the techer bots able to afford military which meant the game had no 0 def(well like 50 troops) bot countries on the last days. Overall I think the change is very good.

As a side note the tech prices are still skewed. Techer bots only respond to demand increases if the price changes drastically and only when the tech prices are well above $2000(If I interpret the code correctly). Further, they tech too much warfare, SDI, Spy, medical and MStrat, they don't respond naturally to the high demand techs and when the demand changes, i e when players start getting Military tech in the final day. Tweaking the weighing function for what the bots tech would be interesting.
Also the reason this is a problem is that the other bots buy faaaaar more tech in bus/res/indy/agri and maybe military tech than the techer bots can produce.

Quick correction, there were at least 2 cashers in the top 10.

I was casher not Techer.

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I am pleased, for now, in what the techer bots are doing. will try another round or two before another shift.

That seems reasonable. Express can be a nice probe for changes.

I think all the strategies have a good chance to win right now.