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this set there is one Fascist, one

and he has been hit 36 times

i think maybe it is time to reconsider the F


i know last time i suggested this the thread had to be closed because of a pancreatic malfunction but...

So if you're already suggested it, why not leave well enough alone? No sense repeatedly kicking a dead horse.

Ya know there IS a bugs and suggestions board - maybe if you posted there instead of on a server forum, you might get a better response.

there is new data

last time the response was great

pang, qz and slagpit were all on the thread debating what to do but it had to be closed because of the irresponsibLaE posts

One F in the game and no food on the market. I know there's at least one D farmer but it appears to be the ideal set to have been a farmer.

Actually there are 4 Fascists and the bulk of the hits on him are AB's

nice "data"....obviously well researched too :-\

i think you would do well running the F away from the top 10. but time will tell.

the less fasc farmers the better IMO it will help make them stronger due to market demands.

Lincoln, that post was inappropriate. I already warned you already about that kind of stuff.

As Warster has said in another thread, Fascism can be a very effective government, but for some reason many players don't want to play it. I'm not sure what we can do about that.

Its a good government, just even as far back as Earth 2025 Fascism has always had a bad rep,

Altho its a different server , I'm playing 2 in FFA and they are doing better then all my other farmers so i'm enjoying them

slagpit

you know that i love it that you have taken so much time and effort with this server

those few of us who only play this server, appreciate it

i think it incumbent on us to examine the effects of the oct10 and june10 rule changes and to disregard any analysis that is based on other servers particularly ffa which from what i gather is essentially people attacking themselves for weeks and then attacking each other for a few days

clan servers are a totally different game and success on them for a gov type is meaningless here

one idea is to hide the F on the scores
why would this work?
because there are people who for whatever nonstrategic reasons hit Fs regardless of their DR

i hate this idea i am about to propse but here it is
unfortunately my ideas that i hate seem to be the more popular
have the advisor warn people when they are about to attack a country which is deep in DR
this will protect the Lazy, the incompetent And thE noob
but it may also protect Fs from incessant pounding

food prices are low even without Fs because of the tpt rule change so the mrket does not need Fs
so any additional food will probably just be sold on the private market
put F's PM bushel price at $38 to start or raise their % bonus so that it takes longer for the advantage to be eclipsed

one of the complaints about Fs has always been that there is nothing to do with your turns
this is especially true on a server where the spies have been castrated
cant cash, cant tech, cant spy
it makes for a dull set
increase the number of spy ops or give Fs something to do with their turns

Lincoln
I didnt compare FFA fascism to Express Fascism, and before you comment on FFA maybe you should learn a bit about it

i was refering to the fact people have it in their head thats its a bad government which it isnt,

i cant compare Fascism on express based on gameplay because i'm not allowed to play, but i can compare them by figures and the gov bonuses,

Maybe KAx thought that gregg's country was the fascist?

no it was the new TKO alliance making its move into express trying to take control of the server

http://www.youtube.com/...iIAFM&feature=related


not sure why this thread reminds me of that...

As slag said. Its a perfectly fine strat.


All these have been Fasc Farmers. 51 was my first set i played so it sucked, then i improved on it each set. Would be aiming for around 25m nw except i have been away both this week and last week so havent been able to play a full set.

53 6 Drinks (#4) 14,736 $20,619,451 FG

52 13 Drinks (#42) 13,237 $16,260,129 HG

51 22 Drinks (#83) 11,036 $13,041,761 HG



Conclusion, fasc farmer works awesomely

Pffftt you suck drinks :)

so does this mean that gregg's post (with the very cute selective capitalization - hard on much?) is nothing but hot air as usual?

shocker....

If people didn't sell Food so cheap, Fasc Farmers would be viable.

sell it for anything less, they might as well just dump it on the private market.

Nah - there's usually a couple of really good spikes in food prices throughout each set. Playing Fasc/Farmer successfully is all about catching those spikes.

i got killed lg wise because i had no food to spend my turns :(

i should pull mine and list it for 54

Here is why Fasc Farmer sucks:

Bushels on market for $48

Lets sell for $42

a $6 dropoff? They're doing it to themselves.

While we're at it, can we change the game to make tyr/casher a viable strat too? I've always wanted to run one of those.

I actually ran Farmer this set, just to give it a shot again. Once again it sucked because of the foolish undercutting. Finished 12th. I think that's the best I've finished as a Farmer on this server.

Love how you all talk about the food spike in prices and how farmers would rule cause of it.

Ever thought that the spike occurs because the farmers are stocking their bushels. and therefore dont benefit from the $55 prices,

Cause those prices occur mid set, when you should be close to max tech, so a farmer would only gain from it if they choose to buy military. Or have 2b cash on hand and lose it all :P

Despite my last comment I stand by F Farmers being good.

So basically Techers < Farmers < Cashers?

I've kicked some ass as a D farmer. I sold the great majority of my bushels on my private market for $39 and probably made $50-100mil buying <$39 bushels on the public market and reselling on the private market. Vs. D farmers, F farmers take a 2.5% hit for selling on private market (w/ max military tech) and a 6% hit for selling on the public market. In addition, they cannot play the market games that a D can.

Slag piloted an F to over 20mil but I'm sure he would have done better with a D (although he might of had to do a little more work). F still seems like a lame gov't choice to me.

Anyone predicting too many farmers and not enough techers this round? Last round was really miserable for techers.

Nope. Too many techers again i predict

Techers used to be strong. I had a #2 and another top 10 finish, after that Techers died off fast. There are too many.

I have won with a techer before & had a set which I was poised to finish between 25-30mil nw before getting gang suicided.

It used to be a winning strat, but no longer with the increase in the amount allowed to be sold on the market.