FFA Debate: 3 Hits in 24 hours. - Earth Empires Forum

DM

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Nov 30th 2010, 21:09:28

So, I just had to stir up some fluff.

Explain: If clan a is hit by clan b 3 times in 24 hours from the same string of countries what would your alliance do?

Makinso

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Nov 30th 2010, 21:11:09

Not that I'm in an alliance lol but in AoDT we would do.

1:1
1:2
1:3

so 6 retals.

NukEvil

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Nov 30th 2010, 21:15:18

1:1 escalating:escalating

3 countries from the same string in alliance a each make a grab on a country in alliance b. Doesn't have to be the same defending country, just the same alliance.

1:1 (1 country hit, no additive) = 1 retal
2:3+2 (2 countries hitting) = 5 retals
3:6+3 (3 countries hitting) = 9 retals

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Billyjoe of UCF

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Nov 30th 2010, 21:40:54

I would say if you can prove they are the same string 6 retals would be in order.

1 on the first
2 on the second
3 on the third

but idk some people flip flop on this.

aka when it benefits them.

I personally don't grab so I have no ground to stand on, how ever I would encourage members to find a different target (even though they are scarce right now)

Kill4Free

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Nov 30th 2010, 21:41:11

1:1
1:1
1:1
Assuming they all hit different countries, and total hits made by clan is not more then 5.

If they were on same country, or by same country hitting same alliance, then.
1:1
2:3
3:5

So if same country hit 2 clan members within 24 hours, he gets a total of 3 retals on him.

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Fiat

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Nov 30th 2010, 21:41:26

I'm interested in seeing this response. What if its not the same string or you can't prove its the same string? Same rules?

Billyjoe of UCF

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Nov 30th 2010, 21:43:07

Then Fiat it all goes to semantics and who ever chooses to be decieving.

But yeah I agree with Kill4Free i thought they were hitting the same country.

kemo

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Nov 30th 2010, 21:57:41

i dont see a problem with it as long as its different countries gettin hit as mentioned above. in a fair amount of cases you can get it back if not more

all praised to ra

Dragon

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Nov 30th 2010, 22:01:19

It depends. If you're a netting tag, you probably just retal each hit 1:1 and contact the other clan's FA for additional retals/reps if it's the same guy.

If you're a war clan, you FS without explanation.

NOW3P

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Nov 30th 2010, 22:02:56

land:land, then kill, then AB a few of their clanmates just to make sure they got the message :-)

I'd probably graffiti something about Hellrush's mom on their clan site too

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Pain

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Nov 30th 2010, 22:11:19

i dont want to see any complaining by people who do not agree with self farming when someone with 16 countries hits more then 1 country in thier tag with more then 1 of his countries.

most people run 16 countries. if you expect people to grab but not grab the same alliance more then once in 24 hours with more then 1 of thier string then thats just rediculous.

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gambit

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Nov 30th 2010, 22:14:06

1 retal each...

improve your land:defense ratio...

stop whining...

Natural Born Killer

Pain

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Nov 30th 2010, 22:14:14

Originally posted by NukEvil:

its a good thing you dont play FFA Nuk, your tag would get raped pretty hard with a policy like that.

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Dragon

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Nov 30th 2010, 22:15:35

Yeah, but the problem is that if you allow one guy to grab your clan 3 times a day, people notice. Further, if you do nothing to discourage the practice, you find yourselves with too many retals to do.

Kill4Free

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Nov 30th 2010, 22:19:01

"too many retals to do"

So a 100-200 country clan, can't keep up with say at most, 5-10 retals a day?

(NBK limits its members to 5 attacks on a clan per day).

So many ways to die, only one way to live...
NBK

Dragon

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Nov 30th 2010, 22:23:17

Good point. It depends on how many members you have and how they're set up.

My point was that no clan can afford to be perceived as a landfarm, K4F and if NBK's 5 attacks per day are against a 32 country clan, that's way different than 5 attacks against a 320 country clan.

But yes. a 100 country clan should easily be able to handle 10 retals a day. In fact, 10 retals a day would be very nice provided that they aren't topfeeds (real or disguised) being retalled.

Murf

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Nov 30th 2010, 22:24:54

5 attacks on the same clan is kind of aggressive, someone hits me 5 times on the same country i'm farming the hell out of them

Pain

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Nov 30th 2010, 22:25:23

lucky for most clans they have several pacts to prevent this.

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Kill4Free

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Nov 30th 2010, 22:38:07

Originally posted by Dragon:

NBK does go out of its way to limit its attacks on smaller clans, our intention is not to swamp people with so many retals they cannot do anything.

And even when NBK was grabbing hard last set/the set before, over a week I think it averaged out to 3 attacks a day, 1 day getting 5 hits, one getting 6. The 6th was 2:1 retalled.

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Havoc

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Nov 30th 2010, 22:42:32

What K4F said.

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Popcom

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Nov 30th 2010, 23:35:44

Originally posted by gambit:

1 retal each...

improve your land:defense ratio...

stop whining...

1A - BLOWS
FFA- NBK4Life

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mrford

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Nov 30th 2010, 23:54:18

Kill em all and let pang sort them out

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Twain

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Dec 1st 2010, 0:18:48

It's all relative. If the clan getting hit is huge, it makes a difference, between 3 hits on a 300 country tag really isn't overkill, but 3 hits on a 48 country tag is a bit harsh.

At the same time, even if it's 3 on a 300 country tag, if that happens day after day after day, I might get kinda irritated seeing that in my clan's news.

For the most part though, this game's always been about the big clans walking the line of "What can I enforce?" vs. "What will cause us to get suicided constantly until we change it?"

So I guess if you're willing to fight for your policy, do what you want and see how things fall into place.

Drinks

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Dec 1st 2010, 0:38:10

3 different hits by 3 different countries on 3 different countries

= No fluffen issue!

Bring it up to 4 or 5 and then you have a debate.

(edit) 1 tag against 1 tag of course

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joedro

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Dec 1st 2010, 0:40:58

i like the 3:kill on a single country

1:1
1:1
1:1

for single countrys

6 hits on a tag per day from one coutnry should be met with detah

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Kill4Free

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Dec 1st 2010, 0:42:18

5 hits is met with death for us. Haven't had to enforce it against us really, but one member hit Dynasty 5 times a couple sets ago, so we OK'ed the kill run against him.

So many ways to die, only one way to live...
NBK

Fiat

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139

Dec 1st 2010, 14:10:04

So what if a 100 country alliance uses every country to hit a different country in another 100+ country alliance?

You retal 1:1?

I don't really have an opinion on this issue, by the way.

Popcom

Member
1820

Dec 1st 2010, 14:24:01

NBK has a 5 hit limit on a clan, no matter which member(s) are involved.
after 5 hits, its escalating

1A - BLOWS
FFA- NBK4Life

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Herr_England

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Dec 1st 2010, 14:39:48

I believe the phrase you were looking for was - Its on.

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