if people bring forward good reasons why self-attacking should be turned off, I have no problem listening to them...

like someone else on this thread said, though, this dramacoaster is stupid

I'd like to ask that a certain group of folks stop attacking the admins on every thread, while being completely unwilling to actually talk to me or qz first, because I've had about enough of it.

you're attacking "admins" now without even knowing where most of them stand on any issues. any conversation that starts with "the admins [insert accusation here]" is not a positive discussion, it's the kind of trolling that is only meant to bash the admins, not actually promote positive discussion.

now everyone play nice and stop making me waste my time on this idiocy. it's deconstructive, and I know that those who are making this issue worse know that, as I've directly told several of their clanmates.