you see the problem here?

all these actions were from what you wanted to do, without even bothering to talk to me?

i see your point, and it would've been nice if you communicated those points to me instead of acting all gungho on your own =)

that's my point. i am not justifying or nor did i ever justify that LaF doing 17 hits on PDM in 24 hours is right. you can look at all my posts i merely indicated that you guys topfed us twice first which was probably a reason why some of the members thought it was ok to grab you guys. grabbing is fine, and it wasn't coordinated but i do agree the amount was a bit excessive which is why i immediately set you to DNH and attempted to reach out to you guys.

i also do understand from the past history LaF would've told you they were right to hit you lots of times in a short period to overwhelm your retal policy, and it is unfortunate you took those past events into refusing to talk to me while every other alliance this reset actually did, but even then, you could've tried to talk to me first before deciding that I wouldn't work out a fair deal with you.

can you tell me why you didn't even bother opening FA discussions with me, stating your problems, and we can calculate how much land/hits needs to be exchanged so both sides are happy like every other alliance who i dealt with. if your reason was because i would have told you to fluff off because LaF/PDM history indicated that, you have to remember that the last time i played this game was 2006, so you cannot hold be representative of what LaF FA department would do from your recent memories of LaF