to be fair to laf, they didn't have a decline due to sol -- they lost all their best most active leaders to either game dev or RL the set that SoL decided to blindside them.

i had some more stuff here, but I'm on vacation... so if this is still going on when I get home, i'll be happy to rekindle that issue.
feel free to read my "previous post" or whatever if you're inclined to, but I won't be around to comment further for a while