well I think that's all fair, weasel, but I've also had my alliance threatened by an Evo leader (as a PDM member) :(

After Evo'ers were taking between 75-79% on every retal then doing a 2nd even bigger retal to surpass 80%, I complained to an Evo leader about it because I know their site offers tools to find the exact returns of a target. The leader (who doesn't lead there anymore, btw) told me that if it was worth the effort that Evo would kill+farm PDM back when we were like 30 members and Evo was 50+. With leaders like that it's no wonder you guys are got into wars. That's a lot of bravado for an alliance who wanted to not get into wars.