We had a DP with SoL, so I'm assuming that's why KJ spoke to them. If hanlong/laf were so unhappy with talks (he got hold of due to ill-means) then he should have spoken to qzjul or yank in private. Nobody in evo knew about those talks, so how could KJ get us to war an alliance i.e. laf when he made no mention of it on the evo site or to any evo leaders? i was HFA, so i decided who we pacted. i pacted laf, but clearly that wasn't enough.

this is not evo's doing. you wanted the game the way it is. now you have it.

evo only became friends with sol because of the way your alliance's treated evo. evo only became friends with pdm because of the way sof treated us both. you created these shotgun marriages, and now are complaining when we speak to each other about how not to get destroyed/out-numbered for the umpteenth reset?

as for MD- we had a DP with them on their first reset back, then it got downgraded to a NAP, and this current reset is only the second time we've been DPed to them, so much for all your conspiracy theories.

i really don't know why i play this game.