you got logs, he got logs, i got logs. the CC members that joined your clan were going to war. there were clans out there that stated they would kill CC after last set regardless of what they told you in PM. they advertised it on the boards. CC members made it extremely clear that they were tagging ICD and that ICD would be the best war clan on the server this set. now if you really didnt see it coming and plan to hit them first a bit later in the set then maybe you are just an idiot, but i gave you the benefit of at least some intelligence. i still think you are trying to play the victim card in the land of nobodygivesafluffville. you were happy as fluff till PANLV FSed and then you wanted to quit. because you were losing. but hey, you are the great player in this thread, maybe there is an alternate strat here im not seeing.