joe - u lived off what cham/surak created just let Pandora die. You never created it nor have you played it "successfully". I was there when they merged and made it PANLV.

Chameloid/Surak was a massive cheater and when caught - poof disappeared.

Goliath (TLV) quit the reset before it all went down and Peki went back to TSE. Time to create your own clan name…yawn!