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Hopeless Game profile

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Jan 21st 2013, 17:37:40

why no retal? ya'll scared?? lmao

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Jan 21st 2013, 18:01:04

The targets he grabs are half his size tho?
He could be quite turret heavy and still break those targets. Not easy to retal I reckon.
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Jan 21st 2013, 18:03:38

Just like Magellaan says. Look how big he is compared to everyone else. He's 35% bigger than the 5th place guy and almost twice as big as the people he's hitting. I think they can't retal, or if they could, it would take too much of a sacrifice for too little gain. The guys he's hitting probably have about 1.5m jets and he's probably about a 6m break.

Edited By: blid on Jan 21st 2013, 23:08:39
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Jan 21st 2013, 18:14:04

Hopeless - you do realize a techer his size makes almost 15m dollars per turn teching at current prices right? That is 4x more than cashers of the same land size.

For every jet that a casher or farmer can buy, he can buy 1 turret AND 1 jet if he just techs 1/2 of his turns. And I'm willing to bet he is not 1:1 in jet:turret ratio.

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Jan 21st 2013, 18:52:29

Originally posted by Hopeless:
why no retal? ya'll scared?? lmao


There's plenty of countries that haven't been retalled. Why single his country out? I haven't been retalled, and I have just as much land as him. Most good players haven't been retalled yet.

But if you do want to mock him, there's a few things for you:
He bounced a grab this set. Like a newb!
There are cashers and farmers the same size as him, despite tech prices being the best they have ever been.
He's still about 10k acres behind the top indy in land.

Hopeless Game profile

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Jan 21st 2013, 19:16:50

well i spoke with him and he's saying he will ror any retal that expired 72hrs policy.

Xinhuan Game profile

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Jan 21st 2013, 20:05:17

Good luck with that! Plenty of willing countries that will war him. :P

Edit: Thinking about it, the techer will probably still win due to the tech prices. -.- Unless he has a crap SPAL? lol.

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Jan 21st 2013, 20:38:28

Tech some spy tech then. :)
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Jan 21st 2013, 20:59:40

tech more GDI!
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Are you guys stupid or what?

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Jan 21st 2013, 21:20:32

BiBiGoN probably wishes he could.
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Jan 22nd 2013, 0:37:15

If a techer wins, it's mot going to be him. I doubt he'll even make top 10. Great luck like this (picking the right strat)will make any later look great.

Why he isn't hitting the fat commies what I don't get. Might as well go big or go home.
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Jan 22nd 2013, 0:42:53

Whoops, spoke too soon.
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kmang Game profile

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Jan 22nd 2013, 0:43:22

Well he just hit a big commie.
I suspect #208 is his ally since they share few targets -- topfeeding style.

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Jan 22nd 2013, 0:45:50

I don't think what he's doing qualifies as top feeding, because HE'S on top and so far no one has managed to retal him. I guess he is attacking countries with more land than him, but to him, they're just fat countries I guess, haha.
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kmang Game profile

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Jan 22nd 2013, 0:52:08

You're right, forget the point that he's #1 in NW :P
There's no one to topfeed haha.

Rockman Game profile

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Jan 22nd 2013, 1:10:15

Originally posted by kmang:
You're right, forget the point that he's #1 in NW :P
There's no one to topfeed haha.


Not really. The way me (and a lot of other people) define topfeeding is that topfeeding is when you hit someone that you know can you retal you. His last hit would be called midfeeding, because he's hitting someone who actually might retal, unlike bottomfeeding where you hit someone who will not be able to retal.

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Jan 22nd 2013, 1:17:23

Most all of his hits are midfeeds. Any of them could retal but he'll try to prevent it.
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Jan 22nd 2013, 1:46:00

He's midfeeding. No need to phrase it as anything else. I assume he's picking a fight, but all he's done so far is play a strat that normally stinks on this server fairly well.

I'm curious as to how his wars this set will go. Techer is not known to be the most resilient war strat, but I believe a ttr will probably as productive as a warring commie this set.

Personally I think if he seriously wants to net he has a solid chance at winning this set. Just switch to a demo in a month and max the SDI and at the least he should be able to set the record for highest non-gdi finish.

addendum: I thought that this thread was Hopeless taunting people who weren't retalling him. That Bibigon is his country. Is that wrong?

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Jan 22nd 2013, 2:01:34

Hopeless *is* taunting people for not being able to retal BiBiGoN but I don't think BiBiGoN is him.

BiBiGoN seems to be netting. I've seen him around on Tournament etc. and he doesn't seem to play just to stir things up. But I don't think he really can win the set...

I also don't think he needs to convert to Demo in a month. By then who cares? He'll either be stocking and sitting around 20th or already done teching and won't need the land so much. It wouldn't be worth it.
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The Cloaked Game profile

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Jan 22nd 2013, 2:11:12

You'd know better then me. I've only ever played techer once(right now in 1a) and I suck at it.

I was just assuming he would face what I faced last set without gdi. Which is a bunch of randoms missiling me for the shiggles in the last few weeks of the set. Even at 20th he'll still probably be the highest non-gdi on the server.

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Jan 22nd 2013, 2:22:27

Well I guess I don't know either haha, it's probably a little bit closer call than I thought but I'd rather take the *possible* cost of being nuked with 50% SDI than the *definite* cost of 14% revolution. Go for broke! Play to win!
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Rockman Game profile

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Jan 22nd 2013, 2:27:13

I don't know why there's all this talk about him. His networth is high, but he doesn't have that much land. Even if he was in GDI, he still wouldn't finish that well.

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Jan 22nd 2013, 2:29:47

It's generating conversation because he's hitting people that are probably posting on these boards and probably finish top ten most rounds, heh. I agree though, there's techers with more land than him that are a lot less likely to get retaled than he is.
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Jan 22nd 2013, 2:31:45

He needs more land.
I financially support this game; what do you do?

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Jan 22nd 2013, 2:32:23

My sentiments too. Besides a non GDI top theo is just asking to be a missile dump, and if there's anything we know, there is no better missile dump than a theo, max SDI or not.
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Jan 22nd 2013, 4:32:01

He wont RoR, i know.
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Jan 22nd 2013, 4:41:52

LOL, if you say that it'll just inspire him to ROR this time so he won't look weak like you say he is! Oh, and you took about 4 days to retal him last set, so your retal was nothing extreme.
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Jan 22nd 2013, 4:46:22

It was out of his "window" , fail.
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oldman Game profile

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Jan 22nd 2013, 10:17:20

It'll be interesting when he starts to stock and his NW increase stalls. Everyone who didn't retal him earlier may retal him then. That's my prediction on how he goes down =P

That, or someone treats him as a missile dump.

Either way, he's not finishing top10 IMO.

Also on a side note, I would have played a much more impressive TTR with this kind of prices =P

Magellaan Game profile

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Jan 22nd 2013, 11:10:04

Yea, how he's going to defend himself once he is stocking?

Compared to last set I would have probably done a extra grab a day if I was techer now since you can afford that with the higher income. Which would put me quite a bit ahead of BiBiGoN land wise. I'm sure you'd have a shot at winning the set if you were a techer oldman.
Do you think it's possible he might have some stock already tho? Then again, with his nw he probably has put most of his income into military. I don't really understand what he's trying to do heh.
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Jan 22nd 2013, 14:03:45

2013-01-22 00:21:04 PS BiBiGoN (#92) Fiscal Cliff (#29) 1218A (2117A)
2013-01-22 12:44:12 PS Fiscal Cliff (#29) BiBiGoN (#92) 1440A (2127A)


And thats why the smart top players don't hit each other.

herbs12 Game profile

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Jan 22nd 2013, 14:42:00

Since we all seem to be critiquing him on his play style ill add.

He is not playing for a high end game finish whatsoever. He will spend to many turns later down the road trying to build and spend less time teching for cash. His expenses are very high compared to techers of equal land and 1/2 his size. He is not good enough to be attempting hitting top 10 ppl currently and getting away with it like he tried.

I predict that he will fall from the top very fast as we progress to the later stages of the set. Or become a random missel dump for not going gdi.

And my final thought he could just be playing to have fun with no shot at the top and he knows it and is just causing a ruckess.

Regardless of his aims and motives he has at least accomplished an active thread talking specifically on what he is up to. And that alone could me a small measurement of victory for himself.

Rob Game profile

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Jan 22nd 2013, 15:32:45

All this talk just reminds me of the amazing tech sets that I always miss :(

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Jan 22nd 2013, 15:35:22

It's BECAUSE you're not teching that it's a good tech set, says I.

BiBiGoN got a bit greedy with his last hit. The others he was more likely to get away with but it didn't even seem hard for Fiscal Cliff to retal. Took only 12 hours.
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Rob Game profile

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Jan 22nd 2013, 15:42:33

But i always price high on all servers and always end up with plenty of unsold tech!
I dont think the supply from 1 player can affect the market that much

I was kinda hoping BiBiGoN would grow real fat and increase the supply of tech soon, but looks like thats not going to happen

Rob Game profile

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Jan 22nd 2013, 15:43:54

Plus, i didnt tech last set and tech was still dirt cheap.

So the one the blame must be Crest!

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Jan 22nd 2013, 15:58:09

I don't mean you don't price right, I just mean you're a big supplier. :) Add any big techer and you'll see an impact on the prices (not THAT significant but still noticeable I'd wager)
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herbs12 Game profile

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Jan 22nd 2013, 16:09:05

I bet if Rob was playing techer it would drop a noticeable difference. His tech he gives to his allies plus what he would be teching now.

25 turns of tech at 4500 a day we can say 112,500k added plus his 10% he gives to his allies and the 10% he recieves from them. Also Since about 1,200,000 tech is being placed daily and being sold your essentially adding a 10% increase in tech being placed.

So ya I bet he would make a good drop In average prices maybe a 100-200$ less

herbs12 Game profile

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Jan 22nd 2013, 16:10:50

And 200$ less for me as a commie would be great with tax that would be 220$ saved per point. So he would have saved me roughly 28m dollars already :)

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Jan 22nd 2013, 16:20:52

Originally posted by blid:
It's BECAUSE you're not teching that it's a good tech set, says I.

BiBiGoN got a bit greedy with his last hit. The others he was more likely to get away with but it didn't even seem hard for Fiscal Cliff to retal. Took only 12 hours.



They both gained a fair bit guess its worth it.

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Jan 22nd 2013, 20:37:02

2013-01-22 17:50:11 PS Invisible Cities (#188) BiBiGoN (#92) 1449A (2139A)

another retal.

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Jan 22nd 2013, 20:43:15

^ very nice gain!
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Jan 22nd 2013, 21:13:41

Now BiBi who has the most networth and the least land in the top ten has been hit twice in the last day! but he was really challenging people to retal with those risky hits and some of them will respond.

Interesting looking at how Fiscal Cliff and Invisible Cities grew to make their retals. Fiscal Cliff was 5.4m net when he got hit and quickly rose up to 7.2m to make the retal. Invisible Cities went from 3.2m net at the time of the hit up to 6.2m net in ~55 hours.
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Jan 22nd 2013, 21:30:59

oh my god he got hit again
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Kingme Game profile

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Jan 22nd 2013, 21:33:00

Are you really that surprised?

It was bound to happen.

crest23 Game profile

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Jan 22nd 2013, 21:36:39

Perfect example why you don't hit top players. His land has now been set back 3 days with unnecessary military losses and higher expenses.
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Kingme Game profile

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Jan 22nd 2013, 21:40:07

Well... tech prices aren't going down anytime soon.

Magellaan Game profile

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Jan 22nd 2013, 21:40:52

So tech will be even more expensive now! Noooo!
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crest23 Game profile

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Jan 22nd 2013, 21:43:19

Tech will start going down but not by much.
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Jan 22nd 2013, 21:43:52

Just goes to show you how fast a techer can grow in networth when you provoke them enough to respond with a retal.

PromiseLand (#234) was ~$3.9mil when hit by both Klince (#208) then BiBiGoN (#92). In just under 2.1 days he grabbed both of them back after growing to $5.8mil net.
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