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kwmi Game profile

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Dec 24th 2010, 3:44:11

It must have something to do with the fact that I put the hurt on some guy who was farming my DA, costing me millions in military everyday. I was acting purely in my own self-interest, and do not see how this is in anyway against the rules. It would be great to hear how this violates any rule?
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Ozzite Game profile

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Dec 24th 2010, 4:17:39

ITS CAUSE YOU"RE A CHEATING BASTAGE!
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Slagpit Game profile

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Dec 24th 2010, 4:38:46

Spirit of the rules
Players should strive to play according to the spirit of the rules, especially on servers without clans. These servers are designed for individual play. To make the game fair for all players and accessible to new players, players in the primary, express, and tourney server should not engage in any outside of game organizing which gives them an advantage over what can be accomplished through normal, ingame diplomacy.

BigRedDog

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Dec 26th 2010, 5:21:24

wait..so him hitting a country who was raping his da? i dont see how this is anything but smart

locket Game profile

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Dec 26th 2010, 18:37:13

slagpit I'd have to agree with BRD. It isnt necesarily being done outside of the game if its his defensive ally?

ZIP Game profile

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Dec 26th 2010, 19:05:23

if i see one of my allies getting hit by the same country again and again i just level them - am i going to be deleted?
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Pain Game profile

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Dec 27th 2010, 3:49:42

Slag if thats the actual reason he was deleted that is pretty retarded. if theres more to it you should explain so its clear to others what can and cannot be done.
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Thomas Game profile

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Dec 27th 2010, 6:40:05

check out #51, #23, #202 on my country #54

If that's not a concerted effort when they were the aggressors, I don't know what is.

BigRedDog

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Dec 27th 2010, 13:15:06

if attacking someone who is hitting your da (in order to not continue to lose a fluff ton of military with every attack) is illegal, then i seriously am done with this game...

kwmi Game profile

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Dec 27th 2010, 17:15:59

its a bit of a grey area but I did get an explanation. Kammer and his DAs colluded to take down #11 because #11 wouldn't stop hitting Kammer (bouncing most of his LGs) and costing his DAs millions in military. Guy had no tanks or SDI (pretty dumb for a guy who wants to be a bully -_-) so we whacked him.

The mods sent me an email saying it was against the spirit of Primary server to collude against another player. The three of us are clanmates in Team server so I guess the mods felt that this spilled into "clan play".

It is true that we are all DAs INSIDE PRIMARY and are thus incentivized to act for a common goal, it appears the transgression was using outside resources to plan the hit.

The mods explained this and gave all of us the opportunity to get our countries back if we promise not to do this again. That seems fair enough to me, but still a VERY grey area.
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kwmi Game profile

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Dec 27th 2010, 17:16:57

Originally posted by Thomas:
check out #51, #23, #202 on my country #54

If that's not a concerted effort when they were the aggressors, I don't know what is.


Thomas, if you report them there is a chance they will get deleted, or at least warned about this behavior.
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BigRedDog

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Dec 27th 2010, 17:33:45

whats the point of having allies if defending them is against the rules? anything discussed outside of ingame messaging can be done ingame...its rly not that difficult, i could see if like a whole clan came to primary and they ran AS a clan, but defending your allies ingame is not cheating in any way...every single person that plays has the same opportunity to do this, even if there new the whole messaging a da, oa etc...and working it out in that aspect is still very conceivable even to the newest of players...

dantzig Game profile

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Dec 27th 2010, 18:08:42

Originally posted by kwmi:
it appears the transgression was using outside resources to plan the hit


Yes, that's illegal on individual servers and I'm happy to see the rule being enforced. The most you should be allowed to do outside of the in-game message system is tell your buddies which country you're playing and frankly, I don't think that should even be allowed.
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Tross Game profile

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Jan 1st 2011, 12:53:30

Originally posted by JJ23:
were u kammer?


Sorry that I am late!!

BigRedDog I agree with you!

2010-12-21 02:19:11 PS LickMyLeftTesticle (#11) Kammer (#59) DH
2010-12-19 21:01:57 PS LickMyLeftTesticle (#11) Kammer (#59) 2467A (3895A)
2010-12-19 21:00:47 SS LickMyLeftTesticle (#11) Kammer (#59) DH
2010-12-19 17:14:21 PS Kammer (#59) LickMyLeftTesticle (#11) 2252A (3297A)
2010-12-19 17:05:34 SS Kammer (#59) LickMyLeftTesticle (#11) 1631A (2389A)
2010-12-18 23:26:54 PS LickMyLeftTesticle (#11) Kammer (#59) 2193A (3603A)
2010-12-17 22:07:01 PS LickMyLeftTesticle (#11) Kammer (#59) DH


This is where it all started! He would not except my retals for his hits! After my 2 retals he then tried to destroy all my missles and did many harmful spy ops. I in turn returned the favor by destroying all of his missles. After his last succesful ps on the 19th I asked him to stop cuz he had the upperhand on our land trading besides both my DA and his DA was tired of losing military!! His answer were more spy ops and a failed PS.Ok that was the straw that broke the cammels back!!!

I had 3 allies 2 of which are on the same team on the team server, the other I dont know if he plays any other server or his name! Up untill #11 my allies never interacted in my affairs nor did I in theirs! I asked all of them what could I do to make him stop! He was higher rank than me so it was either make it so he had to stop or pray he gets tired of lging! From his messages it seemed this would go on till sets end thus losing my allies in the process. So I then ask my friend to help me out!

I got deleted! I appealed! I got country back! But with the promise of ceasing clan like activities. Like kwmi wrote this is a grey area cuz 3 complete strangers can share spy ops and run KR without the benefit of a clan site! The whole set we functioned as individual countries the incident with #11 brought us together cuz we were all effected not just me!!!So I feel we shouldnt of been deleted in the first place!!!

braden Game profile

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Jan 1st 2011, 15:27:34

if i don't hit deli because i like him and i know his country name, we're good, no deletions. if for the primary server, i send him a forums message saying, "hey, friend, this is my country #, we won't hit, maybe even ally?" i am breaking the rules?

i do play with deli onboth team and alliance.
what if the conversation takes place on boxcar?
can i set up allies/dnhs with people for express?
can one reset i make friends, and have us not hitting each other for any future resets? sorry drinks, i'll be ps'ing you again ;)

Vic Rattlehead Game profile

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Jan 4th 2011, 5:38:44

Why would you not hit de1i? He runs techers, excellent countries to grab!
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Cerberus Game profile

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Jun 28th 2011, 20:37:50

Yeah, I could use some enlightenment on this as well, I regulary defend my allies. If they get into a fight with some jerk, I will happily level the guy for them, or otherwise weaken them to allow my ally to recover and avenge himself.

I don't need anger management, people need to stop pissing me off!

Serpentor Game profile

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Jun 29th 2011, 3:32:37

"should not engage in any outside of game organizing which gives them an advantage over what can be accomplished through normal, ingame diplomacy. "


I think this defending of allies could have been accomplished through normal, ingame diplomacy. There is no advantage at all and therefore nothing was done wrong in the first place. If they weren't allied at all and this occurred then maybe, but at least the right thing was done in reinstatement.
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TNTroXxor Game profile

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Jun 29th 2011, 8:17:36

Its a futile attempt to control the game.
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Walding Game profile

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Jun 29th 2011, 8:26:06

I shall stay away from Primary

Walding Game profile

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Jun 29th 2011, 8:28:08

But if this is the case...


Why not delete all the clans in Team that are

Clan1
Clan2
Clan3 and then jump little baby clan D. Is that not against the rules? Is team not a 5 country per clan game?

Slagpit Game profile

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Jun 30th 2011, 4:11:39

The rule no longer applies. I could use some enlightenment on why you keep posting in old topics and being a pest.

Serpentor Game profile

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Jun 30th 2011, 19:53:03

Dang he got me! Pulled me into an old topic.
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HeadHunter Game profile

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Jul 14th 2011, 22:02:10

I haven't understood team server yet, but haven't looked into it. i'm too busy playing ffa, express, alliance and tourny hehe. damn, play everything but team and primary.
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Cerberus Game profile

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Jul 21st 2011, 11:32:45

Has there been any definitive definition of this situation yet? I'd really like to know if I'm likely to be deleted for defending an in game ally.

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de1i Game profile

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Jul 21st 2011, 15:51:35

Originally posted by Slagpit:
The rule no longer applies. I could use some enlightenment on why you keep posting in old topics and being a pest.


This.


Also F U Braden and Vic!

Vic Rattlehead Game profile

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Jul 25th 2011, 0:42:22

De1i -

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