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herbs12 Game profile

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Jan 2nd 2013, 17:26:19

It would be nice if a few of you opened up your profiles for nosy ppl like me to look at your countries.

Why hide your countries? Open up and we can all learn from each others play styles.

Serpentor Game profile

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Jan 2nd 2013, 17:28:34

is mine open? I'll have to look...
The EEVIL Empire

BobbyATA Game profile

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Jan 2nd 2013, 18:17:08

cosign

BobbyATA Game profile

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Jan 2nd 2013, 18:38:40

wait herbs, you have privacy settings enabled lol

herbs12 Game profile

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Jan 2nd 2013, 19:46:26

Oh I really thought I was open profile always. Well I look dumb now hahaha ill change that up,

blid

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Jan 2nd 2013, 20:24:06

This set was the first time in a year I didn't make 100m/top ten, but I'm tired of casher and commie all the time. My profile's closed but if anyone cares

18 16 Cities of the Plain (#5) 37,948 $83,998,031 DG

17 5 Sankara (#226) 71,581 $134,220,328 CG

16 7 within a budding grove (#28) 55,649 $106,071,234 DG

15 2 FRANTIC (#199) 61,913 $125,058,104 CG

14 1 crown of the valley (#31) 65,078 $138,231,116 RG

13 9 Town of Cats (#46) 61,447 $100,363,497 RG

12 3 Happy New Year (#144) 51,583 $107,470,328 CG

11 17 Garden of War (#152) 30,000 $53,651,121 DG
Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:
Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

Skulls of Dominion Game profile

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Jan 2nd 2013, 22:10:28

dude i suck u wouldnt want to look at mine

KoHeartsGPA Game profile

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Jan 2nd 2013, 23:13:43

Mine open? i honestly don't mind if it's open, i have nothing to hide, i am who i am.
Mess with me you better kill me, or I'll just take your pride & joy and jack it up
(•_•)

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BobbyATA Game profile

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Jan 2nd 2013, 23:24:29

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
Mine open? i honestly don't mind if it's open, i have nothing to hide, i am who i am.


not open.

Chewi Game profile

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Jan 2nd 2013, 23:56:14

Originally posted by BobbyATA:
Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
Mine open? i honestly don't mind if it's open, i have nothing to hide, i am who i am.


not open.


He didn't say it was open =P

BobbyATA Game profile

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Jan 3rd 2013, 0:49:44

Originally posted by Chewi:
Originally posted by BobbyATA:
Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
Mine open? i honestly don't mind if it's open, i have nothing to hide, i am who i am.


not open.


He didn't say it was open =P


he also asked if it was open lol, just answering a question=)

VivaNick Game profile

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Jan 3rd 2013, 0:58:35

Originally posted by blid:
This set was the first time in a year I didn't make 100m/top ten, but I'm tired of casher and commie all the time. My profile's closed but if anyone cares

18 16 Cities of the Plain (#5) 37,948 $83,998,031 DG

17 5 Sankara (#226) 71,581 $134,220,328 CG

16 7 within a budding grove (#28) 55,649 $106,071,234 DG

15 2 FRANTIC (#199) 61,913 $125,058,104 CG

14 1 crown of the valley (#31) 65,078 $138,231,116 RG

13 9 Town of Cats (#46) 61,447 $100,363,497 RG

12 3 Happy New Year (#144) 51,583 $107,470,328 CG

11 17 Garden of War (#152) 30,000 $53,651,121 DG




The only way to boost techer is to make it auto sell tech to public market at $1500

blid

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Jan 3rd 2013, 1:16:59

Hm, I finished with 9m tech on hand.

(9m * 1500 / 250) - 18m = 36m. Seeing as I would've been around 100m if not for the top feeds, that would make techer more than competitive. Of course that would probably make more people play techer and balance it back down. But maybe something like 1000 in Express would be better.
Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:
Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

Xinhuan Game profile

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Jan 3rd 2013, 1:49:58

I never got why the autobuy price of tech on Express is twice as high as that of other servers.

herbs12 Game profile

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Jan 3rd 2013, 2:00:05

I could definitely agree to a 999 auto buy same as express. I think that would level out a lot of power throught out the strats.

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Jan 3rd 2013, 2:19:07

Originally posted by BobbyATA:
Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
Mine open? i honestly don't mind if it's open, i have nothing to hide, i am who i am.


not open.


open now :P
Mess with me you better kill me, or I'll just take your pride & joy and jack it up
(•_•)

https://youtu.be/...pxFw4?si=mCDXT3t1vmFgn0qn

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BobbyATA Game profile

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Jan 3rd 2013, 2:56:22

back in E2025, techer was usually the strat to play to win primary if I remember correct. Which always made sense to me b/c it seemed the strat that required the most skill (what techs to tech/ what prices to sell at/balancing building vs. teching). I must admit I'm confused as to why it never does all that well in primary.

Just think about how poor it woudl ahve benn this set if Rob had gone techer like normal.

Requiem Game profile

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Jan 3rd 2013, 3:09:40

It's all about the tech price Bobby. With a lower price for tech it is what it is.

BobbyATA Game profile

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Jan 3rd 2013, 3:17:09

haha, of course. I guess I should say I'm confused why the tech price is so low. And, I guess the answer to that is a higher % of players play techer now then used to. And I guess the reason for that is that the average player is better now then they were in the E2025 days, b/c we are all vets. So I guess I've answered my own questions...oh well.

blid

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Jan 3rd 2013, 4:04:08

The market can support more cashers and commies than it can techers and farmers, just the way it is. With a low enough supply, any strat can be effective, but as Andrew PM'd me, "When techers start stocking...Day 35 or so... There is demand for about 7-8M pts per day. So if you have 4 35k Acre techers allied together that is 3.5M pts or so. That's half the market. This past set we had 7 or 8 techers around 30k land, and presumably another 10 or so that got left behind."

That's why casher/commie has won every set for a full two years. And simply put, chances are that this trend will continue. People that choose their strat basically at random have a 25% chance to be techer, 25% farmer, commie, casher. This will always benefit the cashers and commies. People like me that know casher and commie dominate still will get restless and pick another strat sometimes, and if too many of us get restless, that's another advantage for casher and commie. People will always wonder if maybe "this is the round" for tech or food, and that's another increase to the source of those supplies.

So all in all, it's very unlikely for farmer or techer to be competitive, and even if it can happen, that rare success will just doubly ensure those strats suck for the next year or so.
Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:
Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

blid

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Jan 3rd 2013, 4:09:03

btw it's not necessarily like that on the other servers. tech is a lot better in tourney and express than in primary (though commie is undoubtedly king in express, and casher probably is the tops in tourney)... farmer still never wins those servers... in alliance or team, who knows? just the jokers that play those servers, i guess! haw!
Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:
Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

oldman Game profile

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Jan 3rd 2013, 16:30:38

on the subject of this thread -> my profile has always been open for viewing.

on tech not being able to do well in primary -> removing tech alliances might just do the trick. Less tech supply means higher prices.




AndrewMose Game profile

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Jan 3rd 2013, 17:22:30

BOTE calculation...

Cashers will need 70 tech pts per acre (20 bus/res, 20 military, 10 weapons)
Farmers will need 70 tech pts per acre (20 agr, 10 bus/res, 20 military, 10 weapons)
Indys will need 58 tech pts per acre due to their 120% bonus

Assuming 40% Indies, 40% Cashers, 20% Farmers (I don't know if farmers are needed that much) that is an average of 65 pts per non-techer.


So if a techer produces .34*1.3 pts per acre and stocks for 1000 turns... Each teching acre can support between 6 and 7 in equilibrium.

I must admit I thought the ratio would be more like 1:10. Did I mess something up there or does that make sense?

Of course if you removed the RAs the ratio would shrink by 30%.

edit. Obvious error here is that techers only tech 1000 turns a set... I'm not sure what that number really is but a significant portion of those turns are before the stocking process.

Edited By: AndrewMose on Jan 3rd 2013, 17:54:59
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