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AndrewMose Game profile

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Jan 29th 2013, 14:39:56

It seams like the definition of a good SPAL increases every set. I fail ops all the time (probably <75% success) and mine is 30+ right now.

Is everyone else experiencing this too?

Bee Game profile

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Jan 29th 2013, 15:27:12

YES! I keep failing.. and when I finally get an op the guy has like 20 SPAL while mine is higher..

PaleMoon Game profile

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Jan 29th 2013, 16:51:08

SPAL and total spies/spying in general seems to be fairly broken.

I failed around 6 ops on a non-dict with 7k acres and 150k spies (21SPAL) despite having 700k spies, 26SPAL and dict bonus.

NOT impressed.

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Jan 29th 2013, 16:53:56

Maybe his SPAL was doubled by a big intelligence ally. Do those pacts work like def/off alliances?
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LATC Game profile

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Jan 29th 2013, 17:33:21

Yeah you get allies spies/4 (up to the amt of your spies * gov bonus * tech)

But yeah I agree, I had a 40 SPAL last reset but I failed at least 5 ops/day on ppl w/ like 10 spal.. it was ridic.
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OneMansArmy Game profile

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Jan 29th 2013, 19:35:11

Having the same problem, although I will admit my SPAL is only like 25 right now, I am failing 2-3 times in a row to spy into other countries with a SPAL of 30's.
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Jan 29th 2013, 19:42:38

I only failed twice :-)
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Rockman Game profile

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Jan 29th 2013, 23:17:00

Spies are incredibly messed up. Even a country with high SPAL can get broken in just a couple tries by someone with far far less spies. If you don't believe me, try to get a spy op on #102 in alliance. You'll see how few attempts it takes to get a spy op on a country that should be impenetrable. If you did hostile ops (which you shouldn't do), you'd have the same success rate.

The bell curve for spy success really needs to be fixed, and total spies needs to have more of an effect than it does now. If you look at the power or ABs or BRs against a well defended target in primary, and compare it to the destruction of spy ops against a target with twice your SPAL, you'll see how incredibly unbalanced the system is.

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Jan 30th 2013, 6:30:43

Ya, i just got lucky so far, i noticed something wrong with spies in FFA and Team when stirring rebs or demoing countries far far inferior on SPAL, very frustrating indeed!
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Requiem Game profile

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Jan 30th 2013, 15:18:56

I agree its broken. Too bad the game makers disagree.
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AndrewMose Game profile

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Jan 30th 2013, 15:38:31

I just lost 120,000 spies due to failed ops. You would think that they should work like attacking, if you have a better SPAL by 10% you should win 99% of the time. Only difference is if you have a lower SPAL you should have a <50% chance.

Bee Game profile

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Jan 30th 2013, 16:01:23

WOW. 5 successful ops out of 20 today. Failed a bunch on guys w/ ~10 SPAL. With allies I'm at 20 SPAL, or should I say I WAS at 20 SPAL

crest23 Game profile

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Jan 30th 2013, 16:04:06

Buy spy tech.
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Cerberus Game profile

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Feb 1st 2013, 19:25:39

I haven't railed an op in quite a while, for some reason. I've caught others, but havn't failed an op yet. Although I must admit that I am only looking to see what they've got.
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KoHeartsGPA Game profile

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Feb 1st 2013, 22:38:19

Failed 2 more today on a guy with 15 spal, WTF!
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