On behalf of cult leader leto, the cheaters coalition, and josey and the suiciders, thank you for your contribution to the game.

Letos crew attacked people. Some of them died, like Josey and some others died.

Hahaha, that's clever.

LOL Empy, you and I both know that's not true.

Oh no, I get it just fine. I ruffled some feathers, and now a bunch of people are butthurt.

Ya'll are like fight club. With the multiple personalities and everything.



Petition to rename M4D Fight Club!

Right. I get it now. Ya'll are co-founders. All 15 of you.

Can confirm. Have hit evo many a time. They usually finish just fine.

Gotcha! Thanks for the info.


So ya'll don't really have leadership or rules or anything? You're all co-founders. Anyone can give kill orders. You attack people because you don't like them on the forums. Things like that? Just a free for all type of setup?


Honestly, that's pretty cool. I dig it, I wish you all the best.

lol. Good chat Empy!

TC - You're right. My mistake. My behavior has declined. I now run even more multis. I access databases (learned that from you!) and I'm doxxing people throughout the community.



Oh fluff, no. I haven't done any of those things. So what are you talking about?



Are you saying that because I say things that M4D doesn't like on the forums, that's indicative of a behavior decline?


Because I have purposefully made enemies, and the enemies keep arguing with me? You silly silly goose, TC. You're smarter than that.

Ok. Sure thing, buddy!

What in the world are you talking about? Suicided who? What multis?

Ohhhh!!!! You killed me because I post a lot.


Got it, glad to get that cleared up.

You killed me because I won't stfu about what?


Vic - concede what parts?

I'm not expecting everyone to behave as I am. I'm expecting everyone to be held responsible for their actions.


And yes, I could have stayed quiet and never told anyone about using multis. But I chose to turn over a new leaf and ask for forgiveness from the community. Is that a... bad thing?

How am I a cheater? Are you referring to the previous cheating I did in the past, that I've admitted to, and vowed not to do anymore?


Is that the reason you all are killing me?

How do you figure? I've pledged to help small alliances that are being attacked by larger alliances on this server.


In response, M4D killed me 25v1.

I guess that means you were all planning on being the bigger alliance killing smaller alliances, otherwise why would you kill me?

No, I'm not saying I cheated. I'm asking you how you know I didn't.


Because you claim to know Milkman isn't cheating in alliance this set, and didn't last set. I'm asking you how you would know? I know how you know if someone did cheat. They got caught. But isn't it possible for them to cheat without getting caught?


For instance - I had two multis in alliance that did not get deleted last set. I stopped using them after coming clean to everyone, but the point is that the mods did not detect all of the multis. It's actually quite easy to bypass detection.


Now you have a small level of confidence I'm not cheating anymore because I admitted to it, asked for forgiveness, and was very transparent about it all.


But Milkman did none of those things. So why do you have confidence he is no longer cheater?

Milk literally told me he was a co-founder, so take it up with him.

How do you know I played clean on the restarts?

By new tricks do you mean how to run multis? Then yes, I agree. if you join light you will learn some new tricks.

Yes, myself and M4D's co-founder ran multis. That's the whole drama here between me and Leto. I decided I wanted to come clean, and let the community know, including Leto. And he circled the wagon with the cheaters he had in his alliance, while attacking me on the forums and in discord.


It's what kicked off all this drama, the hypocrisy of it.

Good advice. I've played with weedylar a few times. They are good peeps.

Leto has beef with me, because I exposed him.


This is the ONLY reason why he just had his alliance hit me 25v1. I didn't attack them in game. They attacked me, lol.

LOL.


Holy cow. Empy, don't lie to this guy.

Vettiv -

A few things.

1. Darkneses is DEFINITELY not my clan. I fought them for the last year straight. They mostly hate me.
2. I'm not going to teach you to anything. You're an adult, I'm sure you can figure it out. If you want to learn different strategies, I can link you to people far more knowledge than I.
3. I'm just offering companionship. If you want to hang out and have a little fun, you can hang out with me. Again, I don't think darkness will attack you if you're tagged with me. Empys people might though. As you can see, they don't like me much :P

Empy, was that a riddle?

Leto... WTF? I don't even know what your post is supposed to say.


You didn't have to say what I accused you of. I said it you weirdo.


LOL. I'm not going to repeat it, as Slag will get unhappy. But I think I've been very clear about what I've accused you of. See TAN! This is why I have to keep repeating myself, people just don't pay attention around here.


And Leto, I'm a REFORMED multi-runner. You silly goose, you know this. You also know that the co-founder of m4d is the one I outed when I confessed to my multi-ing. I LOVE that you're criticizing me here for it though. It shows you DO care about people cheating in this game.


FINALLY!


Oh Leto... I'm so sorry. I think I missed it. Can you link me to the post where you criticized and called out your co-founder for running multis? I'm so sorry bud, I think I just missed the thread somewhere.

I don't think we have mutual interests. My understanding is you all are aligned with Leto. And as you can see by this unprovoked gang bang, Leto really doesn't like me :P

I get sent discord messages from his alliances rooms all the time with people talking about how they are hunting for me (that's happened in teams a few times), it's quite hilarious.

But yea... I don't know that we are on the same side at all.

Vettiv, you won't be dead weight for me. There are no expectations, we just play for fun. You on discord by chance?

Vettiv, if you want to play with me, you can. You might get attacked by some of the server bullies, but I'm pretty sure the darkness guys won't hit you if you're in my tag.

Not sure the record, but I died... I think 15 or so times the set I lead my alliance, alongside LaF, into war against Darkness.

That was a fun set.

Typically darkness actually protects those that are bullied. The most likely source of bullying in the server right now are the russians and others in the light tags.

You may want to reach out to darkness and ask them what's up, it may have been a mistaken identity.

Because I'm extremely talented at what I do.


(Huge opening for tons of jokes everyone, pile on!!)

I want you all to know that I think it is absolutely, positively, 100%, hilarious that you all decided to kill me.

I am literally over here with a giant smile on my face about how much you all care about little ole' me. Now don't let me down, I expect you all to kill me somewhere between 10 and 15 more times this set. Please keep up the good work.

OH, so you admit he was saying stuff to me after all?


Good to know! I thought you were still denying that.

Didn't you declare war on the whole server? Am I taking crazy pills? You and M4D have publicly stated you will be attacking everyone (minus a short list from M4D).



Why are you surprised?

I don't understand the math you're doing? Light was running multis and didn't have 75 tagged countries. They had... pretty close to the same amount you all have right now.

Drow - I didn't delete any of my messages.


I think it's REALLY amusing you're accusing me of being a liar, or half-truth teller, when you know you are openly lying right now, haha.


And you're right, Leto did post in that screenshot! I hadn't realized he changed his name on the server. He's not super saiyan or whatever.

Got it! That clears it up!

Josey and the suiciders won't be attacking you all, but you guys might attack Josey if you so choose.


Thank you for the info.

So Josey - just to be clear. You are attacking the whole server, but NOT m4D, right? They are your allies?

463.


And Josey, I know you struggle to keep up sometimes, but I've already shared that I started The Resistance back up. There is a thread on here about that. And I'm the only one in that alliance... so I feel like you could have figured this out if you tried.

I'm not trying to connect any dots. I'M ASKING A QUESTION.


Why is this secret info? Why are you guys being so difficult about a very simple question of clarification? Both entities have posted so much about their intentions publicly, but for some reason this is privileged info?


That's bizarre.

Vic -

You guys have been posting publicly about your plans. You're just posting conflicting info, so I'm trying to get clarification.


Josey previously said he was warring the entire server.

M4D stated they have pacts with a few alliances, and are going to landgrab everyone else.

Neither of those posts listed each other as allies.


But, in a M4D thread, Josey stated that he was rooting for M4D in their war against a few alliances. But... presumably Josey and the suiciders are going to hit M4D, just like everyone else? So... I'm asking for clarification. Are they at war? Are they aligned? Their posts are confusing.

Josey, LOL. That was super confusing. I get you don't like me. That's clear. But... are you allied with M4D, or at war with them? That's all I'm trying to figure out. Simple question.

Josey - I'm really confused, and trying to figure this out.


Is M4D working with you, or are they going to be going to war with you? I know they said they were a war clan, and planned on hitting people. So I assume since you're also a war clan, the two of you are going to clash? But then I saw the messages from you saying you all supported each other.


So just for everyone's clarification here. Are your two clans aligned and warring the whole server together, or are you fighting each other?

Cat, will yall be attacking M4D?

Slag, I didn't criticize him for cheating on his wife, or anything outside the game. I criticized him for insulting members of this community inside the context of the game. The only personal insult is what he said! Lol.

I'm not insulting his wife. I'm saying he is personally attacking members of this community because he doesn't like their actions in game.

This is all game related.

I'll readily acknowledge I've posted this information a lot. I'll challenge you on this topic a bit though.

1. You admitted in one of my previous threads that you hadn't heard this info before. This is evidence that me continually providing this info is warranted, to some extent, if I want to reach as many people as possible.

2. You did ask for additional information.

3. Other people engaged me, challenged me, and told me I was lying. In response, I provided more info, proof, screenshots, etc.


If no one engages me on the topic, the post will stand on it's own. But I don't think I should be faulted for following up to requests or critiques of the info I posted.


In this very thread, I wasn't posting the info again to post it again. I was posting it again because Slagpit criticized my method of delivery, and so I was formulating the words in a slightly different way, to show how what I was posting was actually very game related, despite Slagpits suggestions otherwise.


To many, I could see how that would seem like I was 'just posting it again', without understanding that I'm actually just responding to Slag.

TC - Are you trying to say that because the server doesn't know what the optimal turn optimization is, it's not competitive?


I think one of the things that hurts the game so much is that it is a 'solved' game. The more we can break that solution, and force people to make decisions on the fly, the better.