LATC!

Forgive my ignorance, but what is a shadow ban? Sounds spooky!!!!

archaic, you are letting the terrorists win, which means you are clearly against us rather than with us, which means Rick Perry has to kick you out of Texas now.

The two party system which is giving us worse and worse choices each election cycle only exists because people are afraid. Afraid that, as you said, their desires will be left "on the sidelines" if they don't pick between team red and team blue. The only thing that makes it impossible for someone from outside the two major parties to win, is the false belief that it is impossible. I believe that this year could be a banner year for people who hold liberty dear. The choices that the two "mainstream" parties are going to give us are SO terrible this time that while we may not see a win for the Libertarian party, we could at least see it gaining enough voters to blow this defeatist argument out of the water going forward. Or maybe we'll see team red or team blue realize that what the majority of Americans want is liberty.... and actually move in that direction. Either way, a vote for a third party candidate - especially this time around - is not a wasted vote.



Progress is being made? I suppose that depends on your definition of progress.

For people like Scott and myself who hold liberty above all else in politics, the equivalency between the two current major parties is not false at all. Both parties love tyranny when it will gain them more votes. Yes, they're at war with each other, but what are they fighting over? They want power, plain and simple. They want to RULE - not represent - the American people.

The only progress I see being made lately is back towards feudalism. We've replaced the term "lord" with "senator", but we are moving closer to that failed system today and further from the constitutional republic this nation was set up to be. More and more over the last century, we've declared that the fruits of your labor do not belong to you. They belong to your lord, who will decide how they are best spent. Of course, he will let you keep some. He doesn't want you angry enough to turn your pitchfork on him. But ultimately, it is his choice, not yours, how you will live and what you will believe.

He's acting socially retarded. Seems totally appropriate to call him a tard.

I know a dozen others have said it already and it won't do any good, but seriously braden, you need to seek help. You used to be cool and funny. I used to look forward to opening threads if you were showing as the most recent poster. But you haven't been anything other than ridiculously annoying in a very very long time.

I vote we top this thread daily for at least the next 4 years.

EDIT: May 25th, 2016 is taken care of

Honest answer, I'd give Sanders and Trump supporters about equal odds of being swept up into such a movement. Both campaigns are about hate, jealousy, scapegoats and anger. Trump makes foreign people the scapegoat, Sanders makes the wealthy the scapegoat. Both tactics are evil.

Clinton supporters are not far behind in my estimation. Because seriously... if you're willing to support somebody as dishonest as her - no matter how many times she proves her dishonesty - you're probably willing to follow her into just about anything.

According to recent polls, the majority of Americans agree with this sentiment. 57% unfavorable for each. Which would suggest that maybe it isn't actually a two way race this time around. I know that's a pretty radical idea to think people might stop voting for candidates that they think are giant piles of excrement, but hey.. I'm a dreamer.

Sorry, but I'm going to have to agree with ford on this one....

Criticizing them for using the "not me" defense?? WTF does that even mean? Clearly, AT LEAST two of them are telling the truth, unless they were all one person.

I think the behavior on these boards is often reprehensible and ridiculously immature, but... come on.. sometimes you just make it way too easy for them, Blade.

I knew better than to bother opening this thread..

qz, please fix the ignore button.

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Logically weighing the consequences of my actions is exactly what I am doing.

There are a number of reasons that I do not believe casting a vote for freedom equals "throwing my vote away".

As I've mentioned before, I live in Washington state. I can see absolutely no scenario where my vote for someone honest could directly result in a victory for HilLiary Clinton. The last time my state gave it's electoral votes to a Republican was in 1984. Seeing as I was only 13 then, my vote for President has NEVER been heard. Being from California, you're in a similar position. Not since the first Bush has your state gone to a Republican. If either of our states are going to go red this year, it will be because the election nationally is a landslide Republican victory. And seeing as how Trump's personality is just about the polar opposite of the last person to achieve that feat (Reagan) I don't see that being realistic. You could vote for your dog and have as much effect on this election as if you voted for Trump. Your dog would actually probably make for a better President, too.

I'm also not convinced that the Libertarian candidate will pull disproportionately higher numbers away from the GOP candidate. Democrat voters who identify that way because of their views on social issues match up quite well with the Libertarian party. Not every Democrat is a socialist (thank God). Just like not every Republican is opposed to or gives a damn about gay marriage. It very often comes down to choosing your "side" based on which issues you care more deeply about - which issues you believe have a more direct impact on you or the people you care about. I know it doesn't seem like it most times, but there are Democrat voters out there who would prefer a freer market. They just don't care as much about it as they do about the other "marquee issues"

I believe that in deep blue states like yours and mine, a vigorous and well publicized Libertarian candidacy could even possibly pull more Democrat voters than Republican voters.

I could go on and on about why I believe the best choice for me is the Libertarian candidate, but in the interest of being a little less long-winded, I'll close with this one: I no longer believe that the Republican party represents my views. We had 8 years of out of control spending and massive increases to the national debt.. and then we got Obama. Republican politicians claim to care about the things I care most about, but their actions don't match their words. In 2010 they PROMISED that if we gave them the House, they'd stop Obamacare. The reneged on that promise. They also caved on spending and the debt. It seems the only issues that Republicans are willing to go to the mat on are things I really don't give a damn about. They lost me in 2011 when they proved that they really didn't mean what they were saying.. And Boehner confirmed that for me when he openly admitted after stepping down from office that they never had any intention of following through.

They're not getting me back now by nominating a circus clown. If they want me back, they're going to have to PROVE, through action, that they really do want to start to tame the monster that our Federal Government has become.

I'm going to go against my better judgement - and history - here, and try to engage in a serious discussion.

Heston, you confuse me.

The items you take issue with in the above post seem to indicate that you recognize both major parties as frauds. Further, it seems to me that you would tend to agree with libertarians on a vast array of issues.

Why then, do you belittle people who would suggest that it is time to vote your conscience rather than just voting for Team Red or Team Blue?

I'm guessing you'll probably just call me a dumbass, but hey.. its worth a shot.

This one is easy.

Disallow untags on alliance server: Fewer players
Continue to allow untags: Fewer players.

Player numbers have declined to the point that only aggressive marketing by either the admins or remaining players has a chance of reversing the slide

Serp, wtf is with you getting farmed so hard already this set? Somebody trying to make sure you don't win again?

Also, uggh... eestats down again? Figures. I finally decide to give Primary a try again, and the one site that I won't play Primary without goes away. Hopefully it won't be down for weeks or months again.

While I agree with the general sentiment here, the country which prompted Forgotten to post on this subject was not farmed by LaF. It had been killed as part of a policing action (after ABing two different Stones members). We then killed the restart, but not in an organized fashion, allowing it time to AB two of our members.

I've been playing in LaF for about a year now, and can honestly say that I'm impressed with the efforts (mostly successful) of the leadership to get people to NOT farm real players. A couple of members routinely ignore the leadership on this issue, and when one of their victims hits them back, they're on their own. The "suicider" (which I would call a retributioner) does not end up on the kill list if he only hits back at his tormentor.



In the vast majority of cases this is true. However, we've noted a couple people so far this reset that were doing a pretty good job of imitating bots. If the bots' patterns are easily recognizable, that also means it is possible to imitate those patterns.

Now to Forgotten's point.. I've long held that "suiciders" are good for this game, and I still believe so. It is ridiculous for countries that will be ending with 250+million net worth and 80k+ acres to be running on less than a million turrets and 0 tanks. Lone wolves should not be eliminated IMO, but there are some things that should be changed:

Humanitarians: They're pointless on this server. If you need protection, you tag up. There should not be a dynamic present on this server which allows people to stock up for an assault in absolute safety.

Networth-based attack results: I've hated these ever since Mehul implemented them. If a successful AB takes down 3% of one country's buildings, it should take down 3% of any country's buildings, regardless of the victim's and attacker's relative networths. There should not be a case where a country is able to level 3% of his victims' buildings per attack, but when he is hit back with the same attack type, he loses only 1%. That's just stupid.

"Suiciders" don't need to be eliminated, but neither should they enjoy any kind of special protections.

I agree with Untagged Hunter that ghost acres should be eliminated. They kill competition and I think contribute greatly to the boredom that chases many people from this game. But eliminating the free land sources that make this game little more than a spreadsheet exercise would do nothing to eliminate "suiciding". In fact, I'm guessing you'd see more people going rogue without these lame dynamics, as alliances would once again be forced to take a risk and take land from other real players.

Filled

Takers is policing for stones?

LOOKING FOR 3 RESEARCH ALLIES! I WILL NOT BE RESEARCHING ANYTHING. EVER! I OFFER YOU GOOD KARMA IN RETURN!

BESIDES! WITHOUT THE ALTS ARGUING WITH THE ALTS' ALTS, WE'D HAVE LIKE ONE POST PER WEEK AROUND HERE!

SHUT UP ARCHAIC! YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING AND ALSO YOU SUCK!

We already have two parties with the same goal here in the US. All either of them cares about is increasing federal power over the subjects... I mean citizens.

Trump started running away from fiscally conservative / libertarian positions less than 24 hours after Cruz gave up:

http://money.cnn.com/.../candidates-minimum-wage/

Republicrats and Demicans are just two wings of the same predatory bird.

That's correct. There is an exemption for active duty military.

Still a stupid law. The 21 age limit doesn't work with alcohol and will not work with tobacco. People who are considered adults in every other way - eligible for the draft, eligible to vote, sentenced as adults if they commit a crime - are not going to obey a law that treats them as children if that law prohibits them from doing something they want to do. I mean, the ridiculousness of something like this is just extreme. A 19 year old can be FORCED by the government to leave his home and abandon his chosen path in life, to fight for a cause with which he may or may not agree - can be FORCED to kill other human beings - but he can't buy a pack of smokes or a six pack of beer. Stupid.

Typical CA fix.

That "wait a few more hours" bit never works. Somebody always jumps in before DR is cleared and adds 3 or 6 or a dozen more hits.

Just look at how deep into DR MD had you.. and still somebody else jumped in a few hours later to add three to the counter. Its pointless to try to reclaim land from someone doing what you're doing. MD won your land lottery, game over. Now our kill team gets a chance to do something. Thank you.

I guess you've got me there. Both are extremely frequent liars, both are often extremely obvious in their lies, but both do it for personal gain. So pathological really doesn't fit. They're just lying dirtbags (waiting to be proven wrong with a Wikipedia definition of "dirtbag" now)

BTW, Hillary's behavior does often seem to fit the Mayo Clinic's definition of narcissism that you posted above.

I never said she was more narcissistic than Trump. Just called her a narcissist.

To me, the term "pathological liar" would be the bigger insult anyway. And I don't see how anyone can deny that both of these terrible candidates fit that bill.

So we have an amoral, narcissistic, pathological liar as the presidential candidate for one of the two major parties....

And for the other party we have Trump.

This could be the libertarian party's year! :)

I don't think he has that power. Pretty sure this isn't martian, qz or pang.

From Marshal's link:

"Tulsa County district attorney Benjamin Fu said he was 'gobsmacked' by the decision according to Oklahoma Watch."

I think the daily mail is taking some liberties with this story. "Gobsmacked'? Really? An Oklahoma attorney used the word "gobsmacked"?

I"m calling BS.

I'm from Washington. The electoral college votes from my state will go to Hillary no matter who I vote for. So, I'll go ahead and vote for someone who would actually be a good President, rather than one of the two idiots from the big parties.

You're in the same boat, Heston. Your state's vote would go to the Democrat candidate even if it was Hitler. Why not vote for somebody worth a fluff?

The Rockies are about a thousand miles from the Pacific. If that's "west coast", then Kansas City is on the East Coast.



I"d be quite happy if all "East coasters" thought that way and decided to secede (or kick the West out). As long as you guys take California.

+1. I'm a little disappointed with Johnson on religious freedom, but he's still FAR better than anything team red or team blue has to offer.

LOL oops.. quoted myself instead of editing a couple typos. Still works, I guess. And besides, I'm about the only person worth quoting in this thread anyway :)

SevenJones.. specializing is the key. For optimum growth, you need to maximize the production you get out of each acre by matching the tech you buy with the building types you are building. Certain govts are better for some strategies than others.

Industrialist - Builds nothing but industrial complexes (and of course, construction sites). Focuses early tech purchases on industrial. Sells what he produces on the market to fund continued growth. Best government for this strategy is communism, by far. These are - at the start of a reset at least - the fastest growing countries. This strategy is also the easiest to play, but probably the hardest to truly master.

Casher - Builds enterprise zones and residences in about equal proportion, plus a few industrial complexes to produce spies. Focuses tech purchases on business and residential. Best govts for this strategy for straight up production are republic and democracy. Dictator casher is also favored by some for the stronger military (less upkeep expense for the same power) and more acres taken per attack (dict has a "ghost acre" bonus). The casher buys everything he needs (military, tech, food and oil) from the markets.

Techer - Builds nothing but research labs, and a few industrial complexes. Spends all non-growth turns on research, and sells the resulting tech on the market to buy other goods. High number of construction sites is necessary to get any land gained built as quickly as possible, so that you can return to researching. Best govts for this are tyranny (1 turn per attack, plus higher gains) and theocracy (quicker building). Worst are democracy (3 turns per attack) and dictatorship (slow building)

Farmer/Oiler - I lumped these two together, because this is (I think) the only place you can combine two strategies into a hybrid and be successful. Farmer of course builds farm and buys agricultural tech. Oiler just builds oil rigs. The only government that is viable for the oiler (or for the farmer/oiler hybrid) is fascism. Democracy and dictatorship are also popular govt choices for those playing farmer.

Rainbow - Runs a "self sustaining" country. Builds enough ent/res to keep positive income, enough farms to keep positive food production, enough rigs to supply his attack force, and enough industrial complexes to produce a meager military. May also throw in some research labs and military bases. The worst governments for this strategy are: Democracy, republic, fascism, communism, theocracy, tyranny, dictatorship and monarchy. Best governments: none. When someone spies on you to see if he can land grab you, this is the type of country he's hoping you'll be running, because he knows you'll never catch up to him.

LOL
deflate-gate
blown up.

Did you do that on purpose? If so, well done!

The two party system only exists because people are too lazy and/or gullible to ever consider voting for anyone outside those two parties. There are alternatives. The presidential ballot in particular always has several choices.

Vote third party. Your guy/girl won't win (in the near future) but every person who gives the finger to team red and team blue by voting third party forces the two major parties to try to figure out how to capture their vote next time. If you don't vote, they just don't give a fluff about your views, period. By not voting, you ensure that the two corrupt parties in power now easily remain in power without changing their ways.

I disagree.

All of the people who fell afoul of of Bstrong's civility rules are still here.. and still usually going out of their way to be as crude/offensive as possible with most of their posts.

Who's absent from the boards now? A lot of people, but notably all of the people who seemed to have the biggest issue with the fact that virtually every thread degenerated into an immature name-calling contest.

The only people who still post about "current issues" here are the trolls, and those who are too stupid to realize that rational conversation is never possible here (I'm including myself in the latter group)

AND MY COUNTRY NAME WAS CHANGED FROM THE LETTERS OF POWER TO PUNY LETTERS WHILE THIS ONE REMAINS UNSCATHED.

INFURIATING!

Canadian bacon is not bacon. You can't just slice ham and call it bacon. Figures, Canada couldn't come up with anything better. Lazy bastards.

If the person really threatened to bring his friends into it, report the message (in-game reporting function). If his friends do then join in, he (and they) should get deleted (if there's an active admin on this server these days)

As far as retals go, as Marshal said, if you break GDI, you're taking a risk. A LOT of players will go all out war on you for even just making two grabs on them in a reset.

http://www.eestats.com - This site was down for a couple months but its back now. If you have trouble keeping track of who you've hit already, this site can be a huge help. Allows you to color code individual countries. So you can mark everybody you've already hit with a red flag.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcS6Dm8zXNw

LMAOMA! THIS IS SERIOUS!

OK, THIS IS REALLY BECOMING INFURIATING NOW! IT HAS BEEN MORE THAN A DAY! THE TIME FOR JEST HAS ENDED!

WE DEMAND THAT OUR COUNTRY NAME BE RESTORED. FAILURE TO CAPITULATE WILL RESULT IN MORE INFURIATION!

HA!

SAM

This is actually the more logical criteria. Because if you have highest average net and most members, you automatically also have highest total net.

But we still won.

PUT IT BACK! RETURN THE LETTERS OF POWER OR SUFFER THE CONSTIPA.. ER.. CONSECRATI..

BAD THINGS WILL HAPPEN TO YOU IF OUR LETTERS OF POWER ARE NOT RESTORED!

HA!

SAM

WORDS TO LIVE BY

holy fluff that three... what a shot!

Edit: I was referring to NC's last 3.. Sorry about the ending there ford.

Nice selection there.. I see you get Ninkasi where you're at.. Ever tried Oatis? (Their regular oatmeal stout without the vanilla).. Pretty good, IMO. There's some in my garage fridge right now, making me wish I wasn't on the road for the next two weeks.

Rogue brewery makes a pretty good oatmeal stout too. Shakespeare oatmeal stout.. I also really like their hazelnut brown.