right again, prolly shoulda worded that better. thats one of the 3 posts ive made on ffat since this set started(none of which pertained to you) as i'm trying to stay out of the spin machine that is ffa when wars start.

lol u dont know who i am, yet i still seem to have touched nerve though havent i? and i dont know wht you mean about me being on your fluff. thats the first post ive made on ffat in like a month i think. and you just roved my point even more. your self righteous, talking down to people posts are all over ffat/at. though no one seems to callu out on it. u mad? but you're, right i was thinking of llaar when he dec'd on nbk last set. mybad.

lol Mr. self important and his band of merry followers ride in on their high horses spouting self righteous rhetoricl nonsense. big suprise. I get that everyone is in full spin mode, but you just sound plain retarded acting like the white knight of ffa here to protect your allies. no on is buying it. lets not forget what this is really about, sf and nbk. sf decided to start this little grudge war wit nbk when they played like dirty sniveling littlle cowards every chance they got last set . something you are not inocent of either there fordy as you kicked us whn we were downaswell last set. and now that everyone knows that sf really are a bunch of pussies and not the powerhouse they so claimed to be, its up to you guys to clean up their mess. thats all this is. so stfu, gtfo ur high horse n just keep fighting already.

Sillynetters

I know spinning words and trash talking on FFAT is half the fun of a war, but CC should just stop. Mainly because they are so amazingly bad at it.

LOL your stupidity amazes me mdevol.

SPIN~SPIN~SPIN~

thats cause droids suck, never again will I buy an HTC twice now my htc batteries have simply died and are unable to charge within a matter of months.

but yes the mobile site is very nice.

reconfirmed

Prez of Havoc

The "1%" was never meant to be measured as a worldwide thing. A lot of Americans are in the top 1 percent of wealth in the world. What percentile are you in just for the u.s?

Philly D

I'm glad I'm not American... Seriously. Most conservatives I talk to from there sound half retarded. The last three republican presidents have fluffed that country up almost beyond repair. Then procede to blame the problems they created on their democrat predecessors. It really sucks cause I can see the same trend starting with Canada and our conservative government.

^ I lol'd at that.

I'd be half way done 1st prestige already if it weren't for school :-/ TMAD-1985= my psn. add it up

TMAD-1985

Poop

Ps3 has way better graphics and to me the controller is better its stayed the same over all their consoles and just feels natural to me. Mw3 is good but I don't think its as good as black ops.

By several u mean two ofcourse, right?

Damn how old r u snawdawg? "beating" makes it sound kinda harsh I.find that a firm swat on the butt does the trick. It doesn't really hurt but still let's them know they're in trouble. My kids are quite well behaved in public.

Laaaarpy bday

Lol its funny how Sf keep saying how they're so much more "superior" than NBK but every one of you have started a thread trying to prove it. It's quite pathetic really. You'd think your actions would be proof enough. Oh wait thats because sf's actions don't prove it. You were 30% larger than us plus you had a devastating fs on top of that you guys needed help from ely and focus. Face it your clan is fluff, start as many threads you want you can't refute that.

That's a very nice anecdote there legion but unfortunately its completely irrelevant. of course what I'm talking about is AVERAGE scores, I thought that was blatantly obvious. Clearly there will be exceptions. But it is a well documented fact that iq tests are racially biased.

I too had a less than privileged childhood as a Canadian aboriginal person and was bounced to 10 different foster homes as a child but my iq score is like 40 points higher than my peoples average. Does that mean that every one with a similar background would be able to have "good" iq scores regardless of how bad an upbringing they had? Ofcourse not, it would be stupid to think that and you can scream every insult at me you want until you're red in the face but it won't disprove the evidence that shows ON AVERAGE. Unless you are a middle class white kid your iq score probably won't be very high. And that has nothing to do with if you are "intelligent" or not.

The thing you have to understand about IQ is that it measures how much you know based on other people of your age group, which determines your score. Trouble Is that the group of kids that you are tested against are privileged middle class white children. It doesn't take into account if you come from a less privileged family. If you have to work 10 hours a day as a child so your family can eat then ofc your iq will be lower than the over privileged white kid who's never worked a day in his life. White supremists have been using iq scores to justify their prejudice since the tests creation.

AT is closing in on 30k more posts more than FFAT. We need more fluff talking. So

Mr Ford is a fluffhead

Juusto smells like doody

K4f is a noob

Aquaview makes canoes

Walding can't do long division.

Donny's brother doesn't play.

And now3p means demon.

Discuss...

Meh I rarely bother with sense, and making of it.

And yes tko got top marks in netting because they've always had really good netting scores even when they were on the ec. Whereas pan from what I remember in the old days was amostlu a war clan. Besides they only t 1 point better than you. And about juusto I realised that mistake later on and meant to fix it, but I musta forgot. My bad juusto:P

And your problem is you are a moron and can't get over your hard on for NBK. Everyone with half a brain would concede that NBK deserves top marks in warring. It's a shame you can't trade some of that winning personality of yours for some real intelligence there rockman. At least then you might have something relevant to add to the topic.

Yeah Zip that was kinda the point:P

This is the first one of these I've done and I tried to remain as objective as possible in doing it. If I ever do another one I will prolly make it so that the history of EE carries more weight than e2025

yes i guess that's true. DOOM and sof merged to form cc and doom was mostly aodt members.

lol learn to read rockman you idiot. all time stats. semper aren't even a blip on the radar of FFA yet. go fluff and cry elsewhere about it because everyone knows its true.

A note before i start. When I say "all time" I don't mean all the alliances that have ever existed. I will be ranking alliances that are currently in existence based on all time stats including the joltomac and swerve days. also as this was such a time consuming process I will only be ranking those alliances that have over 100 countries.

each clan will be ranked out of fifty; there will be 5 categories worth ten points each. The categories are: longevity, warring capabilities, netting capabilities, leadership skills, and size.


#1) TKO- Score: 43

Longevity Score: 9
TKO have been around for a very long time. Though they were a relatively smaller clan back in the old days of earth they have managed to remain a noteworthy clan size wise for a long time now.

Warring capability score: 6
Although TKO don't war very often, now or in the old days, they have on occasion proved that they can hold their own in a war if needed.

Netting capability score: 10
TKO are easily the best netting alliance in the game at this time, and not only that, they have always been a clan of extremely good netters.

Leadership skills score: 9
Ketchup is on of the best FA guys a clan could have and he has been able to ensure that TKO are able to net 95% of the time and warster also seems to be a wise leader.

Size score: 9
As stated before TKO have been one of the larger clans in most of ee's histry but in the swerve days they were small when compared to the size of some of the other clans back then. but they were still large enough later on in the omac days to recieve high marks in this category.


#2) NBK- Score: 42

Longevity Score: 10
NBK has been around pretty much since the begining of earth we have oficially carried the name NBK since late 99.

Warring capability score: 10
NBK receive top marks in this category because, pound for pound, we are one of the best warring alliances in ffa history.

Netting Capability score: 5
Although NBK has had some extremely good netters like k4f and bruek as members over the years, we have never been known for our netting abilities.

Leadership Skills: 7
This has always been somewhat of a problem for NBK. We do have an excellent core of members and leaders in NBK, and know the politics of the game, but our score is somewhat diminished because we always seem to have problems with activity. not so much now but we used to. also, with such an excellent core of leaders, there tends to be a lot of us. classic case of "too many chiefs, not enough indians".

Size score: 10
NBK has consistently been one of the largest alliances in ee as well as in the old days.


#3) PANLV- Score: 41

Longevity score: 10
PANLV have been around for a very long time, since the earliest days of FFA. They receive full marks in this category.

Warring capability score: 7
PANLV used to be one of the most feared clans in the game and can still kick some butt when they need to, however now they tend to be more of a netting clan.

Netting capability score: 9
As well as being a great war clan in the old days they were also an excellent netting clan and have had some of the best netters in the games history. and they still are one of the best netting clans in ffa.

Leadership skills: 8
Havoc and twain are some great leaders and they know how the game and it's polotics work.

Size: 7
PANLV used to be one of the largest alliances in FFA and still are today, however, they seem to be losing steam on that front in the last couple sets.


#4) IMP- Score: 32

Longevity score: 10
Another one of the clans that has been around since FFA's glory days.

Warring capability score: 7
IMP used to be among the best warring alliances in the game, although lately they have put up some less than stellar war performances.

Netting Capablity score: 4
not much to say here except that I think I can only remember one time that IMP actually netted, and unless I am mistaken they haven't netted once since the start of EE.

Leadership skill score: 5
The leaders that I can remember of IMP have all been relatively good though almost all of them have been lacking in the FA department which is why they reveived such low scores in this category.

Size score: 6
IMP had a huge number of countries in the old ffa though lately they seem to be struggling in this category.


As the rest of the alliances on the list have only been in existence in EE they only receive scores out of 25.


#5) FoCuS- Score 21

Longevity score: 5
although most of the players in focus have been around forever, focus is still technically a new clan. but they still get a decent score as they have been around since the beggining of EE's ffa.

Warring ability score: 5
Pound for pound one of the best warring clans in the game.

Netting capability score: 4
focus can also net with the best of them as they've shown many times.

Leadership skill score: 4
there are some great old time FFA leaders in this clan and they know the politics of this game as well as anyone.

Size score: 3
They seem to go for quality rather than quantity. nuff said.


#6) Semper Fi- Score: 18

Longevity score: 2
Again a lot of old time members but still a new clan even when compared to EE's age.

Warring capability score: 4
The last couple sets they have proved how good of killers they are. It will be intersting to see what they do on this front in the future.

Netting capabilty score: 3
I am really giving them the benifit of the doubt on this score as I know many of their members are excellent netters.

Leadership Skills score: 4
AV and Walding seem to be doing a really good job keeping their members in check and active. I also know that they both know the ins and outs of the game very well.

Size Score: 5
Their size the last couple sets speaks for its' self. It will be interesting to see if they can retain their members in the sets to come.


#7) CC- Score: 16

Longevity score: 4
Since they are actually a result of a merger i took into account the amount of time both doom and sof have been on this server.

Warring capabilty score: 4
they have proved time and again that they are a great war alliance and will probably continue to do so.

Netting capabilty score: 2
Pretty sure they haven't netted once in their history; but I've seen members of sof and doom net before and they could probably do it quite well if they needed to.

Leadership skills score: 3
The leaders in this clan are actually quite good but most seem to be dealing with busy real lifes and their clans leadership, last I heard was mostly on the shoulders of aponic although I don't know if that is still the case.

Size score: 3
when doom and sof originally merged they had a pretty large number of members though that seems to be lacking the last couple sets.


#8) Elysium- Score: 15

Longevity score: 2
Don't know what ties they have to the elysium that used to be on the alliance server but they are relativly new to ffa

Warring capability score: 1
they've been run off the server a couple times because of their inabilty or unwilingness to fight, their score reflects that.

Netting capability score: 5
They've put up some very nice netting numbers the last couple sets.

Leadership skills score: 3
The only one I know is thomas and I don't even know if he is still leading there but if he is he is a decent leader though as I've said before he can't seem to handle his alliance properly when FSd.

Size score: 3
They have been around 200 countries the last couple sets hopefully they can continue to grow.


Honorable mentions.

ESD: though they have always been a fairly small clan they have some really good netters there

XI: There is an excellent group of earthers in this clan, mostly the remnants of BSS. very good people and very good killers. *throws m&m's at bmb*


now that i am done these stats i already realize there are a few things i coould have done differently i.e. more categories and also spliting the score for each category into an e2025 score and an ee score; because it was hard to rank in some categories due to diffenrences in the game dynamics of the old earth compared to ee.

but there you have it. feel free to flame away.

It's pretty bad when even your own clan mates think you are an idiot cerberus.

Cool story.

His insults are quite pathetic actually lol. We've obviously pissed him off enough to come and rant like an idiot on ffat. We must be doing something right.

Damn you ketchup:p I am working on a comprehensive stats based all time rankings atm... It should be done soon. Sf is waay too high. They will not retain their membership just as lae and cc couldn't.

lol

Oh please aqua don't flatter your self. I have always had respect for you but you ability to weave a web of bullfluff never ceases to amaze me.

Semper Fi haven't even come close to being as good a clan as NBK. I hate to burst your hallucinogenic bubble but its true. NBK have been an established well respected war clan for over 10 years. You guys have been here what two sets? You aren't even in the same league as clans like tko, pan and NBK. You guys are big that's basically all you've got goin for you.

Sure you beat NBK when you had a huge country advantage, but still felt that you needed the fs to beat us? Good job. It is not smart to have a vendetta against NBK. Just ask aodt, cc, and countless others in the old days.

And FYI I'm pretty sure we only warred focus once, and that was at the same time as we warred pan. You were playing with us then why would you even try to spin that? focus knew we didn't pact self farming clans and a policy you helped us come up with. At least they beat us without developing a massive superiority complex in the process.

Come back in ten years and if you've still got as good a core of players as us and are still as much a force as we are now, then you can claim to be in the same league as us.

So this is gonna be an every set thing like we did with AoDT eh? Should be fun:)

The canucks will lose the final to Pittsburgh and Vancouver will riot again.

Haha that is actually pretty clever I never woulda thought of demon. I will still prolly think now-three-pee when I see it tho lol.

That's how I imagined it too lol.

How the fluff do you pronounce your name?

The jersey shore cast has an understanding of science and technology? Lol I doubt that.

I watch it cause they represent the lowest common denominator of society and it makes me feel good about myself.

Is there multiplayer?

With my ma turret fs with my 1 200k nw country.