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Dec 16th 2014, 11:53:35

Originally posted by SAM_DANGER:
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Originally posted by Souly:
This thread started due to our discussion in Alin{'}s thread{,} but {I}'m of the opinion we shouldn't pollute that thread and {WE SHOULD INSTEAD} make a new {ONE} for it.

My opinion is that if you do have arguments on some {DEL "THING"} idea{,} or {DEL "THAT"} if you try to be condescending or sarcastic of something or someone or even if you trash talk someone{,} you should use correct spelling and grammar{,} or it doesn't have any meaning at all{. NEW SENTENCE} {I}f you try {TO} be smart about something or act smart about something{,} you should do it all the way.

It isn't enough to have a smart argument or a correct idea about something if you are illiterate and show everyone that you are and don't care about it and give {DEL 'S'} {PEOPLE} a chance to spin your arguments (or even the sarcasm or trash talk) around. {NEW SENTENCE} {I}t doesn't help to get your ideas across to everyone if you act stupid{,} and {PEOPLE} think you are stupid. {NEW SENTENCE} {I}t only nullifies your ideas{,} rendering them useless.

If you act smart about something then be smart{NEW SENTENCE} {I}f you have an argument in a post on a forum then for fluff sake write correctly{,} and {I} mean spelling and grammar{,} especially if you have a correction line that helps you.

Also{,} if you want to change a point of view about a culture or race that you belong to and are fed up with racial comments like "you are Romanian so you are a gipsy" you should start with changing yourself and show{ING} people that there are exceptions from their generalizations {FIND SOME WAY TO BREAK THE NEXT 120+ WORDS UP INTO MORE THAN ONE SENTENCE. PREFERABLY FOUR OR FIVE SENTENCES} and not just act high and mighty and tell them not to generalize, {ITS} what people do, generalization is how the human {PSYCHE... UNLESS YOU MEANT THAT MIND READERS WORK THIS WAY} works for example if {I} travel a lot and meet a lot of French that have no idea of the geography, history or people of the places they visit or even of Europe for that matter and say Bucharest is the same as Budapest or Bruxelles is in France when {ITS} the capital of Belgium, {I}'m bound to generalize and say all Americans are stupid and have no culture, that doesn't mean that there aren't exceptions to my rule of thinking but as {I}'ve yet to see them and the general population falls into this category my rule stands. The more exceptions we meet the more our rules of thinking about a people will change.


Even though I know my English isn't that good I do try to improve myself and i do appreciate your corrections SAM but for fluff sake IT IS {IT'S} and not {ITS}

or Bruxelles is in France when {ITS} the capital of Belgium: or Burxelles is in France when in fact IT IS {IT'S} the capital of Belgium

{ITS} what people do: IT IS {IT'S} what people do

ITS is a possessive pronoun and IT IS{IT'S} used in a totally different way: The mother bear protected ITS cub from the wolves. See what i did there the bear cub belongs to the mother bear IT IS{IT'S} possession so you use ITS.

It seems that you shouldn't go correcting what you don't know and look stupid. That was what the original post was about.

Also:

"If you act smart about something then be smart, if you have an argument in a post on a forum then for..."

I did use a comma there but i'm not quite sure it was the right thing to do. :P

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Dec 16th 2014, 1:05:18

Originally posted by Jayr:
Originally posted by mrford:
No fluff sherlock. Take your stupid elsewhere. You are a ruiner of jokes and my 2 year old's finger paintings have more depth than your posts.

After a decade of the same dribble you still havnt straightened your fluff out. I'm not entirely convinced you arnt a bot. Either that or you wear a helmet in everyday life for your own safety.
You're a child. Stop insulting people so much and maybe everyone wouldnt think u were a douche...


he's not a douche, he's a realist :))

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Dec 16th 2014, 1:03:05

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
Originally posted by Alin:
welcome to the AT forum. Being a retard won`t help you.


I beg to differ, you can create some serious entertainment 😁


this just made my night :))))))))

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Dec 16th 2014, 1:01:48

sorry timmie but a concreter who could tell you 1000 different real facts about concrete isn't smart he's maybe a specialist in his field, but if you discuss something other than his field you can't make real conversation

also doctors, dentists not to mention inventors sure are knowledgeable and have to study a lot and you can bet your ass the know how to write and they don't argue for the sake of argument :)

but you do have some points that are correct as you don't have to have a University degree to do great things but you have to have high IQ and be knowledgeable these people are self thought ppl and they do have high IQ's

Also we're on a forum where we write our opinions so you bet your ass the communicating your so that most people understand you is important and has a lot to do with grammar in the least.

P.S: thx for your 2 cents i think that your actually 1 of the few that gave some arguments and a comprehensive point of view even though it partially differs from mine :P

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Dec 15th 2014, 23:41:49

he had 2 mandates 1 after the other, he couldn't have been that bad :)

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Dec 15th 2014, 22:50:44

Boy now i get why mr ford thinks what he thinks.

@medvol

No my argument as you can well read wasn't about being thoughtfull it was at best about being knowledgeable about the subject when you make an argument not just make arguments for arguments sake as some of you do and it was about if you try to be as smart ass and trash talk someone or make condescending remarks or are being sarcastic, ironic towards someone in a language you should at leas know how to spell and the grammar of said language and not make a full of yourself by trying to look smart when you are in fact illiterate, especially if you have a correction red line for your spelling.

Hot the fluff can you be thoughtful if you are sarcastic, ironic or trash talk someone?!? That beats me. :)

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Dec 15th 2014, 21:43:45

i like Samsung better :D

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Dec 15th 2014, 21:24:07

wasn't Hoover elected in 29? Does that count as the 1920's or 30's?

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Dec 15th 2014, 19:24:04

It's not a remark it is an example as i said in the post but you still keep making arguments for argument sake which is kind of sad also you don't try to argue with the valid things i said as you can't, and that seems dumb to me.

Also what does it matter where i'm from, if you understand what the initial thread was about and not tie your arguing to an example of how the human mind works it's fine, if you don't then tough luck and stop being a smart ass unless you do come with some valid points.

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Dec 15th 2014, 19:00:45

For fluff sake they were just examples, the 1st examples that came to mind you dumb fluff, stop making arguments that aren't valid, you are just showing everyone that does understand, just how much you don't understand of what is being posted.

And now if it makes you fell any better i'll change Americans to French which you all hate... hope no one's fluffing french in this game so they start getting upset about an example!

And yes i also know quite a bit about France just if some of you are wondering

the thing in question was if some of you guys believe that when making an argument or smack talking to someone it should be done in a correct way and with some knowledge about what you are talking if it's an argument and write it correctly and understandably if it's trash talk, jokes, ironies or is it just to much to ask ppl in general not to fluff up a language so much that no one understands thair ideas, the other part was just an example of how the human psychic works.

Also just and advice to Alin: you say that you learned English with this game and are trying to improve it by posting on these boards well it'll help you improve it if you try at least to write correctly and i do mean spelling and grammar or even that improving argument you've made looses it's validity ( i know cos'my spelling sucks but the more i correct myself the less correcting i need to do)

Also if there are any French out there that play the game and read the example in the 1st post that now almost makes no sense you don't mind i'm using you for an example :)

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Dec 15th 2014, 18:56:20

Originally posted by Alin:
welcome to the AT forum. Being a retard won`t help you.


Cos' we all know it sure as hell won't help you Alin! :))

See i can smack talk you all day and you still can't make a viable argument against anything i say :) (this was not a joke, the sentence above was, just so you do get it this time)

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Dec 15th 2014, 18:53:04

it is if you want to run out of shirts :))), i can help take some off your hands Akula but they might not fit me :P

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Dec 15th 2014, 18:36:10

:)))) it's ok it happened that i read about him somewhere and remembered it, i'm not all knowing neither do i expect anyone to be but having some culture doesn't heart

P.S: read my last comment in Alin's thread and you'll find out a big irony there :)))

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Dec 15th 2014, 18:33:13

Originally posted by braden:
Originally posted by Alin:
Originally posted by braden:
i am so very pleased that you realize there is the difference, iccyh. very few people seem to.

alin, i'm guessing the post was deleted because i can't find it and i have no recollection of it. it likely did involve romani and deplorable culture, though, so fair point.


1.romani - Romani are also known by a variety of other names, in English as Gypsies
2.Romanians - derives from the Latin romanus, meaning "citizen of Rome".

1. comes from Asia
2. comes after a mixture of roman citizens with local inhabitants (Dacians)

2 different and distinct nations. When you call me "gipsy" or "thief" you make reference to 1.
I am 2.


and therein lies the joke, alin. whether you find it funny or not is a different conversation entirely. it isnt meant with hatred. maybe a little disrespect to third world countries, but what can i say? my family was smart enough to leave bulgaria for a first world albeit socialist fluffhole country.

the problem with canada is all those fluffing canadians.


also Braden and here is the irony which the dumb ass that got upset didn't know until i enlightened him the name that the gipsy's now have (romani) was given to them by an elected member of the Romanian state, Petre Roman is his name, right after the revolution in 89 untill them the were called Tzigani in Romania which is what they still call themselves in private :) but call us rasist if we call them that, the name of romani or rom was then quickly used by gipsy's worldwide hence the confusion

Also i now know that Alin argues just for winning an argument not necessarily because he's right so there is no point in trying to beat stupid! :)))

Also mrford is quite right about what he's saying about you Alin! :D

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Dec 15th 2014, 18:22:48

Originally posted by braden:
people who think america doesnt have culture dont know who thomas hart benson or henry david thoreau are. that is nobodys fault but their own. id suggest anything by ken burns if they ever want to know what theyre talking about. but people educating themselves is a lot to ask, i know.


it's Thomas Heart Benton and i think he was a painter.

Also i've learned about Henry david Thoreau in College he was a abolitionist and and fought against slavery if i remember correctly.

Originally posted by Alin:
A Random american should ask him the followin question:

"Name the presidents of USA in 1910, 1920 , 1930, 1940 and 1950."
HE won`t do it without wikipedia. Case close...


Of course i don't know all those presidents and there were time intervals for presidents in USA i do belive in the 1920's there were about 3 presidents 1 of which was Hoover, JFK was elected in 61 till 63 when he was assassinated after him was Jhonson then Nixon (also learned this in college) also the 1st president was George Washington don't know the date then there was Lincoln in 1861 but i guess that you didn't even know that Alin and was just arguing for arguments sake :) (ironic smile, in case you don't realise that).

Originally posted by Kalick:
Yeah, that was kind of my thought. I would not consider a traveler to be stupid/uncultured if they visited Los Angeles but did not know the capital of California.


Sacremento :)

those were just examples of how the human mind works Kalick it wasn't meant to be taken per se. but i guess you can just ignore the words "for example"

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Dec 15th 2014, 13:42:50

Sincer eu unul nu vad unde am gresit cu semnele de punctuatie prietene.

De asemenea uite cum si tu generalizezi, de unde stii tu ca eu sunt plecat sau ca am ideea preconceputa ca "esti roman, esti rau" sau ca te reprezint pe tine din exterior. Stai linistit si eu traiesc in Romania doar ca m-am saturat sa ma confrumt zilnic cu oamnei pe care nu-i intereseaza sa se schimbe ca sa schimbe cum suntem vazuti, in tara sau inafara tarii.

De altfel, poate nu stiai:
Originally posted by Alin:
Originally posted by braden:
i am so very pleased that you realize there is the difference, iccyh. very few people seem to.

alin, i'm guessing the post was deleted because i can't find it and i have no recollection of it. it likely did involve romani and deplorable culture, though, so fair point.


1.romani - Romani are also known by a variety of other names, in English as Gypsies
2.Romanians - derives from the Latin romanus, meaning "citizen of Rome".

1. comes from Asia
2. comes after a mixture of roman citizens with local inhabitants (Dacians)

2 different and distinct nations. When you call me "gipsy" or "thief" you make reference to 1.
I am 2.


rommani porneste tot de la noi, mai exact Petre Roman a fost cel care lea schimbat denumirea din tigani, asta sunt si asa se numesc ei intre ei, in romi iar ei au adoptat denumirea pe plan international creeandu-se confuzia. Deci tot de la noi au pornit lucrurile.

Dar tu aflate in treaba si mai incearca sa-mi aduci mie argumente despre cum ai tu dreptate si esti nedreptati de oamenii care te judeca :) (zambet ironic)

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Dec 15th 2014, 13:24:03

This thread started due to our discussion in Alins thread but i'm of the opinion we shouldn't pollute that thread and make a new 1 for it.

My opinion is that if you do have arguments on some thing idea or that if you try to be condescending or sarcastic of something or someone or even if you trash talk someone you should use correct spelling and grammar or it doesn't have any meaning at all, if you try and be smart about something or act smart about something you should do it all the way.

It isn't enough to have a smart argument or a correct idea about something if you are illiterate and show everyone that you are and don't care about it and gives ppl a chance to spin your arguments (or even the sarcasm or trash talk) around, it doesn't help to get your ideas across to everyone if you act stupid and ppl think you are stupid, it only nullifies your ideas rendering them useless.

If you act smart about something then be smart, if you have an argument in a post on a forum then for fluff sake write correctly and i mean spelling and grammar especially if you have a correction line that helps you.

Also if you want to change a point of view about a culture or race that you belong to and are fed up with racial comments like "you are Romanian so you are a gipsy" you should start with changing yourself and show people that there are exceptions from their generalizations and not just act high and mighty and tell them not to generalize, it's what people do, generalization is how the human psychic works for example if i travel a lot and meet a lot of French that have no idea of the geography, history or people of the places they visit or even of Europe for that matter and say Bucharest is the same as Budapest or Bruxelles is in France when it's the capital of Belgium, i'm bound to generalize and say all Americans are stupid and have no culture, that doesn't mean that there aren't exceptions to my rule of thinking but as i've yet to see them and the general population falls into this category my rule stands. The more exceptions we meet the more our rules of thinking about a people will change.

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Dec 15th 2014, 12:55:03

Originally posted by braden:
Originally posted by Souly:
Originally posted by braden:
i am so very pleased that you realize there is the difference, iccyh. very few people seem to.

alin, i'm guessing the post was deleted because i can't find it and i have no recollection of it. it likely did involve romani and deplorable culture, though, so fair point.


But Alin making illiterate post now and then doesn't help change your mind either does it?


now and then? i think you mean new and than ? i live in toronto, i spend enough of my life considering what i think people mean to say and what they actually say.. english has articles for a reason.. for the reason, i mean.. heh

acceptable english doesn't mean it isn't jibberish, i am proof of this ;p


no Braden i mean now and then as in Alind doesn't always make illiterate post he just makes them randomly, especially when he gets an aggresive attitude about someone or something

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Dec 15th 2014, 12:48:47

1 it was ment as a sarcasti joke.

2 Ca sa ti-o spun eu mai pe romaneste nu e vorba de-un complex de superioritate sau idei preconcepute e vorba ca tu ca om nu poti sa ceri celorlalti sa nu ma faca remarci rasiste care pe tine te deranjeaza atat timp cat tu scrii ca un analfabet, indiferent in ce limba scrii, si le dai dreptate, vrei sa nu se mai intample asta invata sa scrii si sa vorbesti corect indiferent unde si in ce limba scrii, schimbarea trebuie sa vina de la noi nu de la ei daca o vrem. Vezi tu asta e problema cu romanii ca intotdeauna avem argumente contradictorii si spunem ce avem in cap dar daca o facem o facem in modul gresit si analfabet si nu ne pasa de ce cred ceilalti, vrei sa schimbi o idee preconceputa incepe prin a te schimba pe tine in primul rand si prin a nu da ocazii sa le adeveresti parerea ca mudl asta de a gandi al tau n-o sa ne duca nicaieri.

P.S: iarsi argumentele tale sunt depreciative si au o mare tenta de agresivitate in ele doar pentru ca nu pot fi civilizate si aduse corect.

Sorry about the Romanian everyone but i'm trying to explain to him where change should start and what is wrong with his way of thinking.

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Dec 15th 2014, 12:19:09

Originally posted by braden:
i am so very pleased that you realize there is the difference, iccyh. very few people seem to.

alin, i'm guessing the post was deleted because i can't find it and i have no recollection of it. it likely did involve romani and deplorable culture, though, so fair point.


But Alin making illiterate post now and then doesn't help change your mind either does it?

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Dec 15th 2014, 12:10:06

Originally posted by tellarion:
I've said it before and I'll say it again: It's pretty sad to see people completely ignore Alin's points by just attacking his language ability. The fact that he's even this coherent in his THIRD language is pretty remarkable. Yeah, sometimes it's hard to understand him, but more often than not, he makes decent points that people totally write off with 'lrn2speel' bullfluff.


Ok to clarify some things:
1'st this comment

Originally posted by Souly:
this thread is not as interesting as you think you little attention-whore you, just my 2 cents on it :)


was meant as a joke which Alin misunderstood and took quite personally and got aggressive about, which is not cool considering he started this thread with jokes about other threads :P

2'nd i was just trolling him so no need to call me dumb out of nowhere.

Originally posted by Alin:


P.s: this thread is meant to convince the "powerful" folks to allow other threads that are interesting.



3'rd if you just want to convince the "powerful" folks to change the rules about posting on the forums make a post in the Suggestion boards where it belongs not in the Alliance Talk boards where it looks like you are just looking for attention cos' you got nothing better to do hence the attention-whore joke which you didn't get :)

4'th Tella i didn't tell Alin to "lrn2spell" because i had no arguments for him calling me dumb (it was not necessary to bring arguments to that because as you all know when a guy that gets aggressively stupid doesn't get a joke or has no other comeback line he starts insulting people) i told him to do that as a suggestion so other folk like me understand him, i'm also Romanian and it bloody hurts my eyes when i see posts like these

Originally posted by Alin:
is not always the case. but whatever.

I saw threads closed becouse of one guy who went fluffed. Just delete those posts and give the guy 1 hour ban. It will settle the deal and not kill what others will find an interesting threa.


it hurts my eyes, i went through school and 1 of the most important things you can do is learn how to f***g spell in any language you speak especially when you have a correction red line (or whatever the hell that is) it's the same problem with all the illiterate fluffs in Romania which changed the language so they can have the impression they know to write, you don't respect the spelling and grammar in 1 language you don't respect it in any language. Also there are many times when because of his spelling and grammar Alin doesn't get his point across, let's take into consideration that this game is not played only by native English speaking people Alin so if your spelling and grammar are ok it's easier for them to understand you.

5'th i don't disagree with Alin's points, they are valid and a 10-24 hours ban on the user that used a racial remark plus the dellition of his post would be fine by me, only i think this is a problem for all boards not just AT so this thread doesn't belong here.

6'th All of you posting should take into consideration that the Earth game is almost 20 years old and played by people that mostly know each other so name calling and little bit offensive jokes are bound to take place, there is no need to get offended and be aggressive about it :)

Just my 2-3-4...6 cents about the matter :P

P.S: Also Alin due to your bad spelling and bad grammar and not getting your ideas through to folks some of them say: Alin's stupid, Alin's Romanian (they haven't met many Romanians so they generalize after the ones they do meet, but that's ok we all do that at 1 point or another), then they meet me Souly and ask where i'm from and i say Romania and here start the comments: Romanians are stupid, they gave us ppl like Alin which kind of bothers me so please get it through your head that when you post a lot on a forum and act and write like a "badass" and you do post a lot you make all of us look bad you dumb little fluff!

P.S 2: There i said all on my mind now i expect some valid argument's from you!

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Dec 14th 2014, 18:57:06

Omg did you just get offended little attention-whore, trolling Alin seems fun, i think i'm gonna' do it every now and then

P.S: learn how to spell!

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Dec 14th 2014, 18:54:14

you got a lot of time on your hands SAM :))

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Dec 14th 2014, 17:42:11

this thread is not as interesting as you think you little attention-whore you, just my 2 cents on it :)

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Dec 14th 2014, 17:31:33

hey i just did my retal on the guy :))), i'm actually glad he grabbed me :P

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Dec 14th 2014, 17:28:47

anyway the most profit from the change will be for techers which can jump even faster if they pile a little bit of oil when the prices are right

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Dec 13th 2014, 9:35:24

also oil has to be over 170$ per barrel once the piling phase starts to compete with fascist farmer :)

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Dec 13th 2014, 9:33:06

i'm running half oiler half farmer and depending on how prices go i'll go 1 way or the other ... or i might just stay half half and pile the oil :)

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Dec 13th 2014, 9:21:46

i'll be around trading... but i'm half farmer half oiler... hoping for an oil spike so i get the cashes :))))) and buy a lod of tech for it... i'll probably switch to techer later on

Also last set was a great set to start off as oiler and switch to farmer at 1 point unfortunately i switched a bit too late and it cost me a fluffload of cash, but considering i started 8 days late and finished top 100 i did ok i guess

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Dec 8th 2014, 13:37:42

congratz bonus post!

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Dec 2nd 2014, 17:55:13

thx Iccyh my bad sorry to imag and OMA

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Dec 2nd 2014, 17:16:44

he is a restart with a NW over 4 mil he's bound to have been from 1 of those alliances.

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Dec 2nd 2014, 17:10:39

i was just curious ... sending missile is not an actual way to retal but i was willing to overlook that then the AB's were really out of the blue

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Dec 2nd 2014, 16:47:48

i just wanted to know?

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Dec 2nd 2014, 16:38:03

Originally posted by archaic:
Originally posted by Marshal:
Originally posted by qzjul:
Rollbacks are hard to do, because everything affects everything in this game =/ Which parts do you roll back?


if some1 gets suicided then all countries on that server get turned 24hrs back except suicider of course.

;D


YAY! Marshall made an actual funny! I declare earth holiday.

/me checks for loose pieces of sky . . .



:))))

So what was your country #?

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Dec 2nd 2014, 16:23:14

Trife you troll!

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Dec 1st 2014, 15:23:48

it was a bad set for techer guys and top 10 will probably be over 220 mil NW as there are at least 9 traders that will be able to get that if not even more :D

PS: i'm not counting myself in this 9 as i started 8 days late and did some stupid things while grabbing :)))

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Nov 23rd 2014, 12:07:46

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Nov 15th 2014, 19:24:03

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Nov 7th 2014, 16:41:19

Originally posted by Osso:
I don't think the purpose is to stop landtrading, so much as it is to make it less powerful.

Also, to the earlier questions on ghost acres % for dict: Dict's get a 33% bonus to the 43% ghost acres that other govs get. 0.43*1.33 = 0.5719, so Dict's get 57.19% ghost acres, compared to other governments 43%.

Easy way to calc units to be sent to gain max ghost acres:

0.068*(0.5719 for Dict, 0.43 for others)*(1 for SS, 1.5 for PS)*(1.2 for Tyr, 1 for others)*MStrat%*DefendersLand*YourLand/20

In practice, the amount of units you need to send will be slightly lower than this due to the defender having CS and possibly unbuilt acres, and due to NW not being matched to exactly 95%, but it's a quick calc to be sure that you are sending enough units to guarantee full ghost acres.


if you are using this Formula you also have to devide by 10 if th final result is in the 10's of millions instead of just millions and also add a little extra units just to be safe :)))

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Nov 2nd 2014, 19:43:15

and i'll be switching to farmer starting tomorrow.

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Nov 2nd 2014, 18:25:51

Whoever wants to trade with me i'm a fascism oiler #434 send me pm in forums or in game and have a nice day :))

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Oct 30th 2014, 17:13:18

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Jul 16th 2014, 23:43:01

Originally posted by Marshal:


i'm humping you all the way Marshall :))) at least to annoy Red :))) is he still FR? :P