I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.

Happy Birthday

Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward.

Wherefore, sirs, be of good cheer

condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned:

we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

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whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do,

I myself also am persuaded of you, my brethren, that ye also are full of goodness, filled with all knowledge, able also to admonish one another.

In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:

A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.

That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted

!@#$%^&*()_+

When you can't argue with logic you resort to name calling?
There is no sense in attempting to express the value of freedom to you.

Oh BTW
On pg6 there was some talk of the bad side effects of certain vaccinations quoting statistics. Measles should be feared to some extent, but not as much as is currently happening. Children will rarely have a bad complication. Here is a statistic that no one mentioned. The death rate is 1-2 in 100,000 cases. That is .001- .002% And those tend to be in those who aren't properly cared for during the infection.
Fear mongering in order to take away freedom will not convince anyone with an IQ over 99 .... unless they posses a sheeple (read herd) mentality.

That's twice on page 6 that you've quoted Spock from Wrath of Khan. First off .... this isn't Star Trek, second off, Spock said that when HE WAS MAKING A FREE CHOICE not because Kirk or anyone else told him he had to sacrifice himself for the good of the rest of them.



The fact that you don't see forcing people to take anything as an imposition on freedom is pitiful and just strengthens my prior statement that anyone willing to give up freedom for the sake of a little safety deserves neither freedom nor safety. I think that you are most likely the type of person that should live in a socialist country a not a free country. There are plenty of them out there for you to choose from. This country was founded on the ideals of freedom.

This argument implies that certain reasons are acceptable and other reasons are not. What gives YOU the right to make that decision for others?

I joined the US Army many years ago to protect my, and your FREEDOM! I did not join so freedoms would be taken from citizens at a later date. I think a great man once said something to the effect of .... Anyone willing to give up a little freedom for the sake of safety deserves neither freedom nor safety.

If your kid has been vaccinated, and vaccines do what they are supposed to, then if my kid isn't vaccinated it shouldn't affect your kid in the slightest. Your kid should not be susceptible to that disease. If your kid isn't vaccinated, for whatever reason, then don't tell me I need to vaccinate mine. Your child is just as capable of transmitting the disease as mine.

BTW, All of my kids received all of their vaccinations. I'm not against vaccinations. I am however, against government coercion!

When my enemies turned back, they stumbled and perished before You

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Now also many nations are gathered against thee, that say, Let her be defiled,

peace

But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.

http://www.ruralking.com/3-itailian-bees.html

POD

22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him,

4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.

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And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.

Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits, even the God of our salvation. Selah.

Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

Blessed is the man that feareth the Lord, that delighteth greatly in his commandments. His seed shall be mighty upon earth:

And all the days of Noah were nine hundred and fifty years: and he died.

And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

Don’t be deceived, my dear brothers and sisters. 17 Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights, who does not change like shifting shadows.

No, what is really hateful is for you to expect me to make your lifestyle better at the cost of my lifestyle simply because you exist.

Better Socialist argument;
there isn't one.

OMG
What a bunch of idiots! I didn't even bother to read the whole thread, just the first half of the first page and the last few posts. Although there are a few people who can see the devastation this would cause, it seems many here (entitlement generation maybe?) are oblivious to the way the economy works. Wake up dummies!!!!!

There are people out there who have been working for 10-15 years, or more, to work their way up from a MINIMUM WAGE job to a $15.00 hr job. Their employers will not double their wages if the MINIMUM WAGE is doubled. In fact their wages will likely remain the same or show only a token increase. These people have worked for years to become more valuable to the companies they work for and to increase their standard of living.

The MINIMUM WAGE is in effect to put a floor on wages for ENTRY LEVEL jobs. When you enter the workforce you are not worth as much as someone with 10-20 years of experience. No matter how much you increase the MINIMUM WAGE it will always be POVERTY LEVEL!!!!!!! The jobs that pay MINIMUM WAGE will NEVER pay a "living wage". They are the jobs that will ALWAYS define poverty. Someone will always be on the bottom of the wage ladder. Increasing the MINIMUM WAGE effectively puts people who have worked for many many years back to entry level pay (poverty level). Every increase in the MINIMUM WAGE shrinks the MIDDLE CLASS more and more.

BTW, when I was a kid we had ABC, NBC, CBS & PBS. Black and white TV's usually about 19 inch. We knew 3 families that had a whopping 25 inch color TV. They were considered well off. Those same 3 families were the only ones with Air conditioning. Carpet? Only "rich" people had that! Telephones were considered an extravagance. ......... So when I hear some whiny little punk who puts in 28 hrs a week at McDonald's complaining that he can't afford to rent an apartment, pay his Verizon bill, run the AC when it's 75 degrees outside, pay the cable bill (with internet) so they can play X-box on their 52 inch color widescreen TV I can only think to myself is that someone needs to drop then on a deserted island so they can find out how good they really have it!

On the first page QZ argued that "Doubling the price of someone working at McDonalds doesn't mean the price of the raw food,rent or utilities rise either. ". How wrong you are QZ. When I was a teen the MINIMUM WAGE was 2.65 hr. You could buy a combo meal for around $2.50. When I got married MINIMUM WAGE was $5.65 hr and a combo meal was about $5.00. Now MINIMUM WAGE is at $7.25 and a combo meal is going to cost nearly $7.00.

Each sector of the economy effects the other sectors. When the farmer has to pay more for that combo meal for lunch he feels he needs to make a little more to compensate for the increase of his cost of living. That, in turn, makes the price of groceries rise. Now the grocer is feeling the effects from two sides. First he has to pay his employees more, then he hast to pay more for the goods he needs to sell to remain in business. So he must increase the price of everything he sells to maintain his standard of living. Now the landlord has to pay more for his combo meal and for his groceries so he, naturally, will increase the rent on the places he owns. Then comes the utilities. MINIMUM WAGE workers are involved in producing our utilities so it is inevitable that the price of utilities goes up.

What we need to do is CREATE MORE JOBS that can pay a wage greater than the MINIMUM WAGE. Increasing the MINIMUM WAGE shrinks the MIDDLE CLASS! Creating jobs that are capable of paying more than the MINIMUM WAGE will without a doubt grow the MIDDLE CLASS!!!!

We need to widen the ladder going up so that you can climb, not chop the ladder down to where inexperienced people are paid as much as those with much more experience. You (people entering the work force) must show their value. They are not ENTITLED to have a equivalent lifestyle as someone who has done the work and EARNED their lifestyle. The only thing they DESERVE is a CHANCE to become better off.

And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

May the Lord God of your fathers make you a thousand times more numerous than you are, and bless you as He has promised you!

Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.

I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

becoming like him in his death, and so, somehow, attaining to the resurrection from the dead.

Let those of us who are mature think this way, and if in anything you think otherwise, God will reveal that also to you.

Watch out for those dogs, those evildoers, those mutilators of the flesh.

I thank you, living and eternal King,
for returning my soul within me in compassion,
great is your faithfulness.

i 1 When they were driven out from paradise, they made themselves a booth, and
spent seven days mourning and lamenting in great grief.
ii 1 But after seven days, they began to be hungry and started to look for
victual to eat, and they
2 found it not. Then Eve said to Adam: 'My lord, I am hungry. Go, look for
(something) for us to eat. Perchance the Lord God will look back and pity us and
recall us to the place in which we were before.
iii I And Adam arose and walked seven days over all that land, and found no
victual such as they
2 used to have in paradise. And Eve said to Adam: 'Wilt thou slay me? that I may
die, and perchance God the Lord will bring thee into paradise, for on my account
hast thou been driven thence.'
3 Adam answered: 'Forbear, Eve, from such words, that peradventure God bring not
some other curse upon us. How is it possible that I should stretch forth my hand
against my own flesh? Nay, let us arise and look for something for us to live
on, that we fail not.'

Then shall they rejoice with joy and be glad,

And into the holy place shall they enter;

And its fragrance shall be in their bones,

And they shall live a long life on earth,

Such as thy fathers lived:

And in their days shall no sorrow or plague

Or torment or calamity touch them.'