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Dec 7th 2023, 0:37:15

Originally posted by Suicidal:
Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:
LaFs name is "Leave us alone we don't want to fight you, no you can't take our lunch money, we don't care what you call us as long as we keep doing chess club"


Chess Club???? LMAO To play chess, you need an offensive and defensive strategy. Darn shame you can not change the rules of Chess to prevent the opposing player from attacking you.


Uh, we play chess with each other bud. Chess isn't about offense or defense, it's a positional game. Do your school yard gang and leave is alone.

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Dec 6th 2023, 20:44:12

Haha I can't be bullied, nor do I bully. It's funny to watch people who do, or at least try. I wish it were gratifying, but rather it's just disappointing. Like how you mother looks at you.

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Dec 6th 2023, 17:25:06

LaFs name is "Leave us alone we don't want to fight you, no you can't take our lunch money, we don't care what you call us as long as we keep doing chess club"

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Dec 5th 2023, 2:44:34

Originally posted by Coalie:
turd crawler let me break it down "barney style" because you don't seem like an intelligent person to me. Don't try to be asinine and twist other people's words, that is a very despicable behavior.

LAF is not a Clan(s) <= 5 members. Therefore QZ allowed us to declare war on LAF based on the new changes.

By breaking LAF down into smaller groups avoid the mechanics of war, LAF has acted on bad faith on the new changes. Pretty much cheated to avoid war, and/or cheated to avoid surrendering.

Also, Mercs and Sol have won the war against LAF this set on technicality. Congrats Mercs and SoL on that victory. Great job fellas, also good job on using diplomacy with each other to achieve this victory. EZ clap.


Yes you win, great job. lol. Now shutup cheater.

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Dec 5th 2023, 0:37:50

Originally posted by Coalie:
Originally posted by Rasp:
Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:
... used an exploit and should be deleted per game rules.


Says a guy who split his tag into 6 smaller tags to avoid game mechanics for war.


Bypassing QZ’s intended game design to exploit a loophole with the 6 smaller tags is cheating. All of those 6 tags should be purpled.


When you say "intended game design" you admit that it's not cheating. While on the flip side you exploited a bug, making you a cheater. Forever tainted.

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Dec 4th 2023, 19:36:09

So the list of cheaters who should be deleted are:
Argon Huffer (#373)
BreadMan (#37)
Nama Saya Amin (#333)
New House in Dec 2023 (#24)
Santas Toy Factory (#101)
Santiago Gimenez (#14)
Spooky Klot (#484)

We'll have names too after the reset ends so we can call out the cheaters by name.

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Dec 4th 2023, 19:33:32

Membership has no interest in war, you'll probably never have another war with LaF again.

Also you can see that the timer on the war was 24 hours not 48, so all who hit that country used an exploit and should be deleted per game rules.

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Dec 4th 2023, 4:02:22

Originally posted by Auk:
Originally posted by Cathankins:
Advertising and game recruitment is your biggest issue. You need new players and that would solve most of these issues I imagine.

The problem with this game is not the amount of players we have, it's the fact that this game doesn't accommodate towards how most of us play.

We can get more players, but I doubt they'll stick around for long.

The problems are:
1. It takes a lot of time and turns to build a nice country, but all of that can be destroyed in a flash with way less time and turns in comparison;
2. If one were to participate in any war, they're virtually guaranteed to not finish in top 10 with a good score;
3. The prize/loot is not enough for the victors of war to continue and compete for rank #1 finish;
4. No other option to resolve a dispute that doesn't involve giving land, allow retaliation, or to conquer the enemy; and
5. With an imbalance of strategies, or playing style (e.g. war) it makes playing other strategies less valuable, and it makes producing certain resources less valuable (e.g. war related tech, tanks).

War is yet another option to deal with a dispute and can function as leverage in diplomacy. If the problems were solved, I imagine the war clans here would make this game more interesting.

Imagine the netters as royalties/nobles who would rather not engage in a war. The war dogs would be of any class including the royalties, but they primarily take on the role of champions insurers, risky gamblers/stock traders and mercenaries of course who takes on any bet they see valuable, intervene and fight win their way to the top while dealing with competing war clans. I imagine such arrangements can be made where a netting clan can sponsor a war clan with a boatload of funds in hopes it'll lead to mutual beneficial outcome.

How would you or anyone here address the above 5 problems?


Difficult to address, I like what you consider riskier gameplay, this was the norm with Theo techers a long time ago.

Maybe if war were completely nerfed and rewritten, perhaps by removing the ability to kill a country, and instead having the result be that you could take it's land and resources instead. Removing the attack concept and make it a campaign that happened over a long enough time to have economic warfare with counter play.

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Dec 3rd 2023, 0:22:52

This isn't a thread for arguement.

QZ, There will be zero "war dogs" coming back for those type of changes, because it won't make any difference at all, as there will still be no target for wars. The only difference clan gdi makes right now is if netters still play or not.

These midreset code changes also create damaging drama and need to stop. Starting the reset based on one set of rules and then changing it errodes trust. If you want to make changes, great, but please have them ready to go and tested in alpha ffa or elsewhere in the weeks before a set ends so people can test and decide if its something worth playing or not.

Please role back the changes you just did into another changeset, let it be fully tested first then we can finish this reset, after putting all the effort into record breaking countries, then quit next reset.

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Dec 2nd 2023, 22:43:03

Both 2&3 are game ending, they would cause the return of organized griefing (you can see in the very first response, to kill LaF as an alliance). Essentially game death.

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Nov 29th 2023, 0:55:14

bonus

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Nov 24th 2023, 5:24:28

That server is called team, very few play it, go have fun

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Nov 22nd 2023, 1:56:12

Originally posted by DerrickICN:
Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:
Originally posted by DerrickICN:
Your scope is so limited lol. I dunno. LaF got FSed 2 times in the last 5 years and started the hitting once. After those sets signed a CF that would have lasted the next year, had changes not gone into effect. That's hardly "getting forced to war every set." That's getting forced to war twice in a 5 year period.

From what I can tell, Gerdler made some people mad that generally aren't all mad at LaF at the same time. SOL and SoF, for example, have often aligned with LaF. The fact that they were all mad at LaF at once says more about LaF than it does the opposition.

Further, Elders membership at its peak was essentially a rag-tag group of people from a variety of small tags that LaF had repeatedly harassed and threatened over the years. When a group with essentially only that in common come together, and grow to a point of being as large and powerful, it also says more about LaF than it does its former victims that they were unable to run off. You made more enemies than you have players in your tag, and you want to blame the fact that, what, your enemies worked together?

Again, I think you're being intentionally naive and biased rather than having open discourse, so it's hardly worth talking sense with you. All I'll say is an old adage that it "takes two to tango." If you've made more enemies than allies recently, you were quite simply playing the politics poorly. It's not more complicated than that.

If I'm wrong, why then is hitting LaF such a powerful recruitment tool? It can't just be that you were always super sweet folks that 100s of people dislike for no reason... You'd of course never admit to anything tho, because you have no desire to find a middle ground. And that's what frustrates the hell out of people like PDM, KoH and myself who constantly live there.

Making over half of a community mad AND simultaneously doing literally nothing to try to reconcile that anger is a wild CHOICE for anyone desiring peace in any aspect of life.


Your post is essentially a "might makes right" rationalization. These are the things you've used to justify your own behavior, but aren't actually logical. The ability to form a YAALC (yet another anti LaF coalition) didn't create a moral imperative, doesn't mean it's good for the game, doesn't really mean anything at all beyond the ability to do it. They also couldn't possibly convince anyone about any of those things., which is why they are nothing but a self rationalization. You know this, and now you know that I know that you know it. You are no different than those who came before you, who all failed and lost, just like you have yet again. Really you lost the second you made your coalition to be against something rather than for something, the negative aspects of a goal always lead to failure.

Compared to LaF, which always builds itself, always looks to improve itself, all positive goals. So we always win in the end.

It's why the only real way to defeat LaF is to do the same. Evo was an attempt at that once upon a time. Notice how they are still around and put up T10s. Monsters and PDM aren't trying to destroy others and they do great.

But you, you misbehave to the point of server admins having to add protections into the game itself. You and your strategies have been judged (correctly) as griefing. And because you have no positive goals you quit. That's the true state of your YAALC.

Idk. Go look at my profile TC. It's easy to find. I'm top 20 in lots of netting stats on this server and FFA. You're speaking to masses rather than speaking directly to me. Try to speak to me rather than a group of people, and I'll give you mutual respect in return, bud. I only played the set you guys hit the other side and won and I started late lol. You're being grandiose for no reason and you're not speaking to the correct person doing it at all. Literally nothing you said was a response to me, it was a point to people I occasionally play with.

...and you look like a fool because those people know most of all none of what you said about me is true.


Oh no, I'm well aware, but you are the only one on here making any attempt at an intelligent defence of that position. I know most of it isn't you personally.

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Nov 20th 2023, 19:49:05

Originally posted by DerrickICN:
Your scope is so limited lol. I dunno. LaF got FSed 2 times in the last 5 years and started the hitting once. After those sets signed a CF that would have lasted the next year, had changes not gone into effect. That's hardly "getting forced to war every set." That's getting forced to war twice in a 5 year period.

From what I can tell, Gerdler made some people mad that generally aren't all mad at LaF at the same time. SOL and SoF, for example, have often aligned with LaF. The fact that they were all mad at LaF at once says more about LaF than it does the opposition.

Further, Elders membership at its peak was essentially a rag-tag group of people from a variety of small tags that LaF had repeatedly harassed and threatened over the years. When a group with essentially only that in common come together, and grow to a point of being as large and powerful, it also says more about LaF than it does its former victims that they were unable to run off. You made more enemies than you have players in your tag, and you want to blame the fact that, what, your enemies worked together?

Again, I think you're being intentionally naive and biased rather than having open discourse, so it's hardly worth talking sense with you. All I'll say is an old adage that it "takes two to tango." If you've made more enemies than allies recently, you were quite simply playing the politics poorly. It's not more complicated than that.

If I'm wrong, why then is hitting LaF such a powerful recruitment tool? It can't just be that you were always super sweet folks that 100s of people dislike for no reason... You'd of course never admit to anything tho, because you have no desire to find a middle ground. And that's what frustrates the hell out of people like PDM, KoH and myself who constantly live there.

Making over half of a community mad AND simultaneously doing literally nothing to try to reconcile that anger is a wild CHOICE for anyone desiring peace in any aspect of life.


Your post is essentially a "might makes right" rationalization. These are the things you've used to justify your own behavior, but aren't actually logical. The ability to form a YAALC (yet another anti LaF coalition) didn't create a moral imperative, doesn't mean it's good for the game, doesn't really mean anything at all beyond the ability to do it. They also couldn't possibly convince anyone about any of those things., which is why they are nothing but a self rationalization. You know this, and now you know that I know that you know it. You are no different than those who came before you, who all failed and lost, just like you have yet again. Really you lost the second you made your coalition to be against something rather than for something, the negative aspects of a goal always lead to failure.

Compared to LaF, which always builds itself, always looks to improve itself, all positive goals. So we always win in the end.

It's why the only real way to defeat LaF is to do the same. Evo was an attempt at that once upon a time. Notice how they are still around and put up T10s. Monsters and PDM aren't trying to destroy others and they do great.

But you, you misbehave to the point of server admins having to add protections into the game itself. You and your strategies have been judged (correctly) as griefing. And because you have no positive goals you quit. That's the true state of your YAALC.

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Nov 20th 2023, 17:16:25

Originally posted by Academus:
Lights/Lumen tag-killed again but they had technical victory because they killed restarts?


No because their was an arranged war with equal sides, the dark side lost and called in allies contrary to the agreement, so light won the arranged war. What happens after doesn't really matter.

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Nov 19th 2023, 2:19:26

The failure was on you side, forcing people into war every reset and your own person anti LaF attitude. It's entirely one sided by the way. Because you guys are a certain way you project it on us to justify your own behavior, but LaF doesn't actually care about you at all.

It's quite hilarious really, the bomb for example did an entire set designed to manipulate LaF, but the entirety of laf's conversations internally is limited to tracking potential top countries, seeing if we can learn anything from their play and how to counter.

Like, if someone were to track all of LaF organization and chat and that was all they knew about the game they would not even know that you or the others even exist.

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Nov 19th 2023, 1:10:34

You are describing yourself. People normally are when they have such specific thoughts. It's never described me, I make sides, I don't pick them. If there were actually something wrong on the LaF side I would work tirelessly to fix it, but there really isn't, and I looked.

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Nov 19th 2023, 0:06:14

Yeah LaF was the primary user of AB, don't blame it's nerf on them, the complaints that lead to it's nerf came from the anti LaF coalition and from the dark side on team etc. I'm surprised anyone cares about it on this server as the countries are so small and it's so easy to rebuild optimum bpt.

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Nov 18th 2023, 4:16:24

Originally posted by Symbolic:
Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:
Lights won this round via technical victory, nice work light!
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Whats that? licking up the after scraps?


The war was over as soon as you lost and called in freedom. It's all in the history books now.

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Nov 18th 2023, 0:36:07

Lights won this round via technical victory, nice work light!

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Nov 18th 2023, 0:32:20

Originally posted by x:
Originally posted by Coalie:
Cheating/Hacking Scandal
On May 2, 2012, the game administrators announced on Alliance Talk that Hanlong, with assistance from former game administrator Turtle Crawler, had gained access to the game's database, allowing the two to view all countries without requiring the turns needed for spy operations, change anything in any of the countries, and view private messages sent via the Earth forums as well as those sent in the game itself.

TC: Total Cheater


I almost hate to say it because you are so oblivious, but every time that's posted all we see is the ad hominem logic error, that you have no legitimate defense of your position and know you're wrong. At least when Coalie does it he doesn't think his position is lost, he just knows he's too stupid to understand what's going on around him or to have a proper comeback.

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Nov 17th 2023, 22:36:36

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Nov 17th 2023, 22:36:22

Originally posted by x:
Originally posted by BlackHole:
Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:
Originally posted by Coalie:
Derrick was actually one of the loudest voices in our irc channel for us to end the war with LaF. He is not toxic.

He made a good reasons on why it should be ended, some of which I generally agreed with. To call him "toxic" would be slander and libel.


He's on the record of being willing to jump at any attempt to war LaF forever, from his own mouth multiple times. Toxic.


Just like you're on the record for cheating and supporting clanGDI that's another game cheat, safe space dwellers.




LOL, we can disagree with whether or not ClanGDI is good for the game. But it's not a cheat!


That's just silly talk.


He is referring to a game dev going into the system and looking up country information from other players and passing it on.


I'm not sure who he thinks did that, but regardless if your definition of cheating includes supporting clan GDI it makes everything he says illegitimate.

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Nov 16th 2023, 0:53:16

Originally posted by Shweezy:
Do you think #44 IS aware he did a run of sab missls? Or COULD HE BE AWARE of it? He is part of LIGHT after all



We're not posting about what an individual did, or if the individual even bothered to read chat or just did random fluff. We're talking about what the alliance knows. It's called shifting the goal posts, and a clear sign someone is able to make their case, and right now it shows your to be a liar.

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Nov 16th 2023, 0:51:03

Originally posted by Coalie:
Derrick was actually one of the loudest voices in our irc channel for us to end the war with LaF. He is not toxic.

He made a good reasons on why it should be ended, some of which I generally agreed with. To call him "toxic" would be slander and libel.


He's on the record of being willing to jump at any attempt to war LaF forever, from his own mouth multiple times. Toxic.

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Nov 14th 2023, 0:34:22

Originally posted by DerrickICN:
I think you'd be LaFing at yourself then, Karny.

The part of the game you enjoy most has been eliminated. I'm aware of the fact that it was never very kind to you, but fact is, you don't have the option anymore.

Out of curiousity, do you consider it winning having grudge wars removed? I personally think you'd find this meta boring, but am genuinely curious about your actual thoughts.

I assumed you'd pander to your tag, but eventually get bored and quit when the wardogs leave. Tell me how I'm wrong.


Dude stop being toxic. You're never going to be able to convince people that it was more fun when you were allowed to be a bully.

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Nov 13th 2023, 3:02:45

Originally posted by Shweezy:
Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:
Originally posted by Shweezy:
What time did #44 start sabotaging missiles? That seems to be getting dismissed/avoided, and its a huge part of the issue


Because LIGHT has no awareness of it, first time I've even seen a number.


You dont always have to get into the database to view simple things:

Im sure the clan leader can see the clan news, there he can see the time(s) he failed the sab missls..


Saying nobody in LIGHT is aware is just a lie


Your arguing "could be aware" in place of "is aware". See how your can't even get basic English or logic right? Then you use your faulty reason to call me a liar? That's just embarrassing.

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Nov 11th 2023, 0:51:13

Originally posted by Symbolic:

Next time ill write it out in crayons so you guys can understand it better, oh wait there won't be a next time.


I sure hope not, there HAS to be someone over there who knows how to communicate, it's just not you. How embarrassing.

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Nov 10th 2023, 22:44:31

Originally posted by Shweezy:
What time did #44 start sabotaging missiles? That seems to be getting dismissed/avoided, and its a huge part of the issue


Because LIGHT has no awareness of it, first time I've even seen a number.

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Nov 10th 2023, 20:21:37

Originally posted by Coalie:
The war time set between symba and milk was:

8pm EST nov 9th

light started the war at:

7pm nov 8pm EST
Harmful spyop were being conducted 2-3 hours prior.

I made a goodwill effort to contact milk after the first few hits. Instead of stopping and responding, he ignored and kept going. The arranged war ended at that moment.

Also TC, I’m not going to consider to your recommendations and demands on how to proceed after you insulted us. Furthermore, we don’t deal with liars and cheaters (especially you).





It's funny, because in reality the only people you deal with are liars and cheats, which is why you'll never be able to deal with me.

And you're still lying about the start time. Anyone can see it, as a screenshot is linked in the thread. You can't rewrite history anymore than you can stop yourself from being trash.

You guys missed the start time, oops on you. You called in allies because your losing, meaning you've now lost the arranged war by default for violation of terms.

I'm sure you guys really did mean a different time than you said, but writing clearly isn't a skill of the lower class.

Good day to you, loser.

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Nov 10th 2023, 19:54:48

Originally posted by Coalie:
There was no miscommunication from what I saw in symba’s message to milk.

nov 9th 8pm est
Light started attacks nov 8th 7pm est (harmful spyops started before 7pm est)

Both players were lived in NA/Canada

I messaged milk on both irc and discord to halt, both went unanswered. It was then decided arranged war is over and we’re going back to normal business.

Next time don’t cheat and start early.


Thank you for the admission that your broke the arranged war willingly and with purpose. You are now an admitted cheater, who does so publicly with no remorse believing himself correct while he makes himself a liar.

And don't lie and say it started on the 8th, it was certainly on the 9th 00:00 GT, a reasonable time based on the messages, understood in good faith, prepared for, waited for, and executed all in good faith.

And if anyone went before that is news to me, as the instructions were so clear and documented to wait for the prescribed start time. Worth bringing up to individuals if it actually happened, if they executed planned instructions too soon.

You guys screwed up, and then rather than being men, make yourself liars and cheaters.

You guys have had plenty of help from people who were suppose to stay out now, call them off, return to the arrangement you dictated and agreed to. Fight the war as the war it was intended to be.

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Nov 10th 2023, 17:05:52

The failure to clearly communicate the desired start time lies with the author, not the reader. LIGHT hit on what appears to be the agreed upon time of Nov 9 00:00 GT, which was also 8pm EST before daylight savings, but was then 7 PM. It's not really reasonable, given that text, to think the start time is Nov 10th 0100, or 0300 GT, as some say in the thread it was suppose to be 27 hours later. There seems to be a lot of miscommunication on that side, which is their own fault and lack of preparation.

The other issue, breaking the even teams, is not at all confusing. The dark side has clearly broken terms and are correctly labeled as cheaters. The correct answer here is for both sides to stop the war, do joint kill runs against freedom and anyone else who wasn't suppose to be part of it, until they are eliminated, then set a new FS time.

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Nov 7th 2023, 4:42:38

Bonus

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Nov 3rd 2023, 22:12:56

Originally posted by SuperFly:
Originally posted by Syko_Killa:
whatever you guys do over there, please don't even try to take responsibility for yourself. Life is easier when you blame others.


Literally the LaF way; blame everyone else.

carry on lol



No kidding, I blame all my earthquakes on Gerdler

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Nov 1st 2023, 22:47:54

Originally posted by DerrickICN:
Even if you're spinning wildly on the forums, calling people names and fighting grudge wars, it goes without saying that we've all been here a bazillion years and it ought to be impossibly easy to coexist at this point. Perhaps I'm less bitter than most, and it's a reason I was one of the only ones to cross the line and join LaFwar in MD100, but I think 20 years playing a game together is a genuine connection, and at worst feels brotherly with the people who I feud with most.


You'd think, but it's pretty obvious when you realize the only reason a lot of people are still playing is to grief LaF. Give up the hate and they just quit. I don't refer to you as trash people lightly or without good reason.

People want to be recognized as important or mattering without putting in the work. It's never going to happen. If you want respect from me or from LaF, and this goes for everyone, you can't demand it, you gotta earn it. Show me that I can't casually walk into first place ever set. That LaF won't take all the top spots. Because we are and we will.

People think snide comments on boards that only a few people read matter, like you can convince someone to reject reality by trolling, like this is some front in a conflict that you can win. It's just not.

People can listen and learn or stagnate, secure in their own decisions, and fail.

What I see on the boards here is entire alliances planning their sets around things they don't even begin to understand, and making videos about it. People aren't even able to rise to the level that they know they should feel embarrassed.

Right now all the real competition in the game is inside a single alliance, and everything outside is white noise.

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Oct 31st 2023, 23:57:36

Originally posted by x:
Just noticed if no one would have market manipulated or aided. Andrew Moses would have a first place finish on every server.



He was the third unaided country at the end last reset, I'm guessing you mean he won previously.

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Oct 31st 2023, 5:09:27

Originally posted by Garry Owen:
Originally posted by DerrickICN:

Tbh, qz said something similar to me, essentially that we're all too old to actually put an effort in. To me, those goal posts are extremely odd. If the game was growing at all, it'd be the lazy old farts who should be finding themselves down the barrel of some active young guns. You'd think that would be a better alternative to letting 25 year vets laziness dictate gameplay.


I know all about being too old for actual effort and the benefits of lazy play.

But really the response to old farts playing should be the opposite of ClanGDI. I mean, we have been thru enough sets (years and years of sets) to not really be emotionally attached to the countries. So lets have some randomness and more possibilities for interaction with a smaller playerbase!!! Acknowledge that the players are old, jaded vets who are bored with the GAME but incredibly loyal to the COMMUNITY. Spice the game by enhancing Player and Alliance interaction, not stopping it.


Clan GDI isn't forced, I suggest those who want what you said stay out of it and do exactly that. People can choose.

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Oct 29th 2023, 20:48:09

Just ping LaF, I'm sure they can fix it for you.

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Oct 26th 2023, 7:58:27

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Oct 20th 2023, 20:50:32

Pacts can't really be enforced by the game unless you had something of a permanent membership in pack, so you couldn't leave it to get around it. people would just make new accounts.

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Oct 19th 2023, 5:32:53

Originally posted by Coalie:
Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:


I can start calling people who FA cheaters, or pack breakers cheaters, or people with stupid names cheaters.


Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:
If an alliance decided to aid into the top spot a country that would not have won only considering individual effort, that alliance should not expect to net (FYI I would have won last set without being disturbed, so it's fair game to aid me back into the top spot).


Originally posted by Mr Gainsboro:
Please remove the ability to send FA to your teammates if the alliance has joined clangdi.
While its the alliance server it is not good for the competition between players that an alliance can just feed 1 country to get the rank 1 spot without being able to kill or interupt it.


Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:
Please be careful with the idea of having bots tag up, it would create an unstable dynamic that would encourage griefing countries not in clan GDI, or a race to the bottom with regards to aiding to the top spot. None of us want to see either of those.


Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:


Everyone should agree not to aid people into the first position and hopefully with the inability of the griefers to do their work we'll have a clean result this set.


"Btw I thought you had something saying I thought FA was cheating" - Butt Crawler ^


Not a single one of those has be saying FA is cheating

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Oct 19th 2023, 4:20:01

Btw I thought you had something saying I thought FA was cheating, but you didn't. That quote certainly doesn't.

I would redo the video with better production imo, keep the quotes on the screen long enough to read.

And I'm still totally baffled how you think any integrity was impacted by using don't the same thing we'd literally just done FAing me to #1 the immediately previous set. It's like part 2, the sequel, with the same plot? Very confusing.

You guys DID do enough though to get our attention late reset and make some adjustments. Congrats on that. We give attention to all countries with winning potential and you were able to manufacture one. Great work!

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Oct 19th 2023, 3:51:40

Omg I love it! Tytyty!!

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Oct 19th 2023, 0:24:23

Originally posted by xx:

Doesn't tmac or Andrew hold the top unaided networth all while dodging laf suiciders like bh?


You really aren't smart enough to know why those don't work for comparison? Tisk tisk midwit.

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Oct 18th 2023, 20:58:22

Originally posted by SuperFly:
PS that LaF record could easily be broken by Tmac or Andrew moose if they have an entire team FAing them.

Maybe some of of your forgot how high Andrew Moose got without FA and market transfers recently. Now imagine how high the two best netters of earth could go with the entire LaF tag behind them feeding them all of their resources haha.

Shame you won’t see their greatness cuz they ain’t about to take $2b plus of FA for a non skilled team effort of funneling / pooling resources.

And I don’t mean that what LaF accomplished didn’t take skill. I am sure that every member spent hours of their lives carefully farming and stocking to carefully transfer all their hard work to one guy to boost him to the top.

Great job regardless


Some people talk as if tmac or others are competitive with laf's best. They just aren't. LaF owns all the top legit countries and on top of that (or because of it?) LaF can do the best aid work too. In fact LaF took both the top legit and top aided spots. Without aid this past reset LaF would have taken the t5-7 spots, or maybe all ten (edit: probably 8)

Edited By: Turtle Crawler on Oct 18th 2023, 21:02:32
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Oct 18th 2023, 5:55:58

Originally posted by SuperFly:
Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:
Originally posted by Coalie:
Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:


I'm just a millionaire with 5 kids here making 200k a year. Very modest, almost lower class!


"200k a year" is the new "100k a year" lol


It's the new 70k lol. You need at least 250


$200k a year still goes pretty far in the US. $200k doesn't go that far in Canada. Currently drooling at some nice places in Houston that would cost 5 or 6 times as much in Kelowna, BC. But than you would have to live in Houston lol


Yeah for sure, it would be great income for a single person

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Oct 18th 2023, 4:38:06

Originally posted by Coalie:
Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:


I'm just a millionaire with 5 kids here making 200k a year. Very modest, almost lower class!


"200k a year" is the new "100k a year" lol


It's the new 70k lol. You need at least 250

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Oct 18th 2023, 1:38:11

Originally posted by SuperFly:

*message typed from my paid off in full mega yacht off the coast of St. Barts while being feed expensive AF rare champagne by a smoke show 13/10 chick*


Nice work paying it off ! I know those girls are all on term contract, how do you manage the transition from one to another?

I'm just a millionaire with 5 kids here making 200k a year. Very modest, almost lower class!