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Jul 14th 2024, 19:27:35

When after doing an attack, if you can declare peace and click on it then it does not declare peace but instead takes you to the main page.

Edited By: Primeval on Jul 15th 2024, 5:57:01
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Jul 11th 2024, 1:18:03

Originally posted by Requiem:
If you do that, you should also reduce the amount of oil needed per unit to attack.

If the oil supply is lower, consumption should be as well– given you do not want it on the PM.


The point is to raise the oil supply by setting a higher minimum value so oil will hold more value at the end of a set. Currently it's a gamble to produce oil as over supply makes the oil fairly worthless. It's required for grabbing but largely pointless for jumping.

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Jul 8th 2024, 1:34:15

Maybe 6 is the magic number

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Jul 2nd 2024, 19:27:00

Originally posted by Kingme:
Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:
Originally posted by Slagpit:
For reference, land gained by SKA countries from SS over the past 72 hours by government type:

C 38772
D 15291
H 7100
I 53669
R 7054


Almost half is dictator!


You like my Dict?


We all have dicts :)

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Jul 2nd 2024, 16:49:36

Originally posted by Slagpit:
For reference, land gained by SKA countries from SS over the past 72 hours by government type:

C 38772
D 15291
H 7100
I 53669
R 7054


Almost half is dictator!

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Jul 2nd 2024, 16:15:04

Originally posted by VicRattlehead:

So when the jets are close to "normal" price, the SS price in jets to grab, comnbined iwth the big oil spike, gets prohibitive.


^^ this.

On the other hand dictators can grab great.

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Jul 2nd 2024, 16:13:26

Originally posted by Tertius:
Combining both of your comments, Vic - I'm curious why the farmers didn't use that excess cash to buy up cheap military and just go to town grabbing bots. I haven't done the calculations, but even techers might have had a benefit from continued grabbing rather than market speculation: it certainly seems some have continued to do so.


I didn't think there are very many farmers. SS loses are very harsh for everyone.

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Jul 2nd 2024, 16:10:11

Originally posted by Tertius:
Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:
Sell before doing you LG!


I can't tell if you're being naive or sarcastic? Even as a grabbing CI in the early-mid set, you have to run turns to produce more, and you have to produce more than you lose or you won't be able to keep growing, so you gain jets over time (primarily as you build the acres you grabbed), and thus selling after grabbing allows you to sell the most. Yes, if you grabbed until you had very few jets left, that wouldn't work - but that is not what we're doing / complaining about. If anything, players are at the least doing PS, which combats that.


Oh I just needed a post for the bonus. Your post did kind of indicate that you had enough jets to sell, but after attacking didn't anymore, so there may have been a point right before a grab you could have sold. If in running you turns you didn't actually gain jets and lost as many as you made then it makes sense you wouldn't be able to sell more.

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Jul 2nd 2024, 15:09:37

Sell before doing you LG!

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Jun 28th 2024, 14:56:49

Originally posted by Slagpit:
We will have oil on the PM next round.


This works if you set the pm prices in line with how food works, with high sell and buy prices. But that would also destroy any remaining utility in destocking.

Instead just increase the amount of units it gives on pm and you'll solve all the problems.

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Jun 27th 2024, 4:55:00

I can't remember how many times I was tapping that refresh button while driving, it's a good change on both that and 18 hour bonus.

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Jun 26th 2024, 1:49:09

Originally posted by Slagpit:
Allowing detagging is going to lead to abuse because players don't have access to war as a means to resolve disputes. For example, a player could join a tag and benefit from spy ops, offensive allies, and research allies all set only to detag and join another tag. A tag could recruit a new player to help with spy ops and detag them at the end of the round to raise their average networth.

The average networth calculation is currently bugged but that will be fixed before the end of the round.


I can't imagine anyone cares about this

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Jun 21st 2024, 5:50:58

Originally posted by galleri:
I am not sure what you mean by "visible practice recently". I know I have not done a lot of deletions on this server lately, so pretty baffled here.


There are a bunch of examples in recent memory. No this isn't lmited to tourney.

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Jun 20th 2024, 23:29:45

Originally posted by Primeval:
Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:
Originally posted by Primeval:
Had it been two players that the moderator did not recognize, there could have been a deletion and we would be discussing this through the appeal process.


Galleri don't gaslight.


Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:
Mods should not delete first then investigate later. They should investigate first then delete if they have a confirmed rules violation.



Since that is what happened here, I assumed you were commenting in support rather than objecting to something. Perhaps she thought your comment was phrased as if it was a complaint.


The comment is (rather clearly) pointed to the fact that the mod process as you described it allows deletion first, investigation later. This is improper and should not happen.

The only scenario where a country should ever be undeleted is if the deletion was an error. If a) a mod made a mistake in reading the data or b) the mod incorrectly applied policy and acted improperly.

There should not be any case where additional information would merit an undelete because the already existing information was already sufficient and reliable and only an internal review is necessary to overturn that.

If someone didn't safelist then by all means apply some grace, but don't go the other way to delete people first and ask questions later, as has been the visible practice recently.

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Jun 20th 2024, 19:21:18

Originally posted by Primeval:
Had it been two players that the moderator did not recognize, there could have been a deletion and we would be discussing this through the appeal process.


Galleri don't gaslight.

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Jun 17th 2024, 23:53:25

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:
Mods should not delete first then investigate later. They should investigate first then delete if they have a confirmed rules violation. No one should be deleted with an intention to discuss it later via a appeal process.


But....it's the way....that's how Woke works in RL...


Screw woke.

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Jun 17th 2024, 23:02:53

Mods should not delete first then investigate later. They should investigate first then delete if they have a confirmed rules violation. No one should be deleted with an intention to discuss it later via a appeal process.

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Jun 16th 2024, 4:34:24

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Jun 8th 2024, 17:12:50

Originally posted by Slagpit:
It is in effect, but I am wondering if C:C DR should be on the Cooperation server at all. I think it was originally intended as an anti-land trading measure? It clearly isn't possible to land trade on this server.


Yes please remove it

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May 31st 2024, 21:31:27

Originally posted by Requiem:
My concern is not because of the amount of land that can be achieved. It is about the amount of fun I have playing my turns. If I have a ton of turns with nothing better to do than explore or something silly, then that is not compelling gameplay.

But yes, it does not hurt to try.

I will revisit this end of the set.



I tried explaining that earlier and they didn't go for it.

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May 31st 2024, 18:40:28

Originally posted by UgolinoII:
Does this also work the other way if you weren't Fascist before.

ie if you got to 83.2% as monarchy then switched FFO you would be at 96%?


That's how it's always worked.

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May 30th 2024, 19:16:37

I'm not sure why it was lowered from 5 to 2, 5 is a better competitive gameplay, especially early.

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May 30th 2024, 19:08:06

Originally posted by Slagpit:
Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:
It's a humanitarians change that allows more jets at home.


I'm not sure what you mean by this comment? The Cooperation server has no effective humanitarians range.


In alliance people had to limit their jets on hand (and run zero def/zero spies and limit their tech) in order to hit targets. In coop you've removed hummies so now we're able to buy as many jets as we like. It's this change that means offensive allies can be used well, not the limited number of PS.

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May 30th 2024, 18:44:00

And yes, loses from SS will have to be significant reduced for the server to be competitive.

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May 30th 2024, 18:43:04

It's a humanitarians change that allows more jets at home.

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May 25th 2024, 17:37:50

Holy wall of text, I didn't read any of that.

Regardless, to have a good game you need to make decisions according to game design principles. This is a known topic you can lookup and learn.

If anyone disagrees with that they they are simply factually incorrect.

Making good games is not an accident, it's a choice. The current decision has been to decide against making good gameplay, that should change.

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May 25th 2024, 1:42:24

Originally posted by TAN:
I'm with Slag on this, it's ridiculous to send out pacts to NPCs and get free tech.

>>make the game more competitive by reducing the impact of feeding via tech alliances with humans.

But...that's been part of the game since 2002. You know what hasn't? NPCs and getting free tech that way. I actually think nerfing NPCs is the way to go - there are too many, get rid of at least half of them, it's way too easy to get land. There are people who are going to get over 200k land by the end of the set, that's just absurd and ridiculous.


Yes, but what is or is not ridiculous is not the same thing as good game design. In fact it's completely immaterial with respect to good game design.

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May 24th 2024, 21:07:36

Tech alliances with bots actually level the playing field and make the game more competitive by reducing the impact of feeding via tech alliances with humans.

Those are the terms you should think about when considering game changes, competitiveness and complexity.

NOT what "strikes you as a completely ridiculous mechanic". Your whims are not the same as good game design and you are not making decisions based on game design principles.

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May 24th 2024, 15:02:01

I'm not aware that there was any change to Farmer dominance this set. It had all the top countries. Patch just made things dumb without really balance anything. Slag it's like you are listening to people who don't and can't net. Please listen to only netters when making netting changes. You are making the game unplayable.

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May 24th 2024, 6:48:46

And the end game is pretty dumb now.

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May 15th 2024, 14:36:55

Originally posted by SuperFly:
Originally posted by Coalie:
Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:

t's actually quite likely that I have the highest IQ of the remaining player base



Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:

I once considered what would happen if I ran into someone like me, then I concluded we'd be best friends because I like myself.



Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:

I'm also smarter, richer



I am sorry but Cathankins is the highest IQ player that we have in the game. Shame that you all are lower IQ or you would have recognized his intellectual superiority.

I think you and Caty should be friends as he is also very rich financially and spiritually.

PS you all are seethers and unclean pagans!


You are quite right, I did not consider Cath when saying that, only hedging it with "likely"!

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May 14th 2024, 2:42:42

Yes he's going to spank me, no big deal, I'm used to it.

You can join in if you want, we'll have a grand old time.

You gotta go "DON Turtle Crawler", and if that's not enough to get me off you'll try MR {{pick a name}} followed by "people have been running tribute countries for you for over a decade". That never fails.

I'll spank you and say "TC knows who you are and sometimes even responds to you". That'll that the cake.

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May 14th 2024, 0:17:52

Sorry bud, I just can't respect you then. I need a reason and you don't provide one.

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May 14th 2024, 0:09:12

Darn I was really hoping you would answer the question. I can't really respect someone who isn't respectable. Are you or are you not?

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May 13th 2024, 23:44:33

Also how good you are at earth etc, the very best.

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May 13th 2024, 23:40:07

I think all we're missing now is for you to explain how much better than us you are in your personal life, how smart you are, how beautiful your wife is, how high achieving your children are etc.

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May 13th 2024, 23:10:49

Keep going BH. Don't stop! Whenever anyone asks about you this is the thread we're going to show them so make sure it's a complete display of you antics.

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May 13th 2024, 20:48:01

Bonus

Gotta keep this one around in case anyone forgets about BHs character.

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May 10th 2024, 16:53:56

Deleted along with 522

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May 10th 2024, 16:39:30

The real issue is rouge mods or the entire mod group going rogue and deleting people without rules violations. Restore should never be necessary.

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May 10th 2024, 1:06:52

Hehe I blew him up so hard in my last post that he even admits he can't make sense of it. GG WP utterly demolished.

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May 9th 2024, 21:17:31

Originally posted by BlackHole:
Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:
No it's just you. When reality isn't quite flattering enough for you, you detach and create your own. It's how you win every argument. It's how it's always the other person at fault. It's how you are the real smart one. It's how you win a fight that's only going on in your mind.

Yes it was a mistake to engage with you. The secret king always wins, so the secret king never learns and is incapable of growth.


Can you please explain to me how I've 'detached' and created my own reality.


To the best of my knowledge I just quoted your post. Are you saying that the post I quoted didn't actually happen?


You live in a world that for what I said to be true that post you quoted didn't actually happen.

Because you have no empathy you are unable to conceive of a reality where your perceived opponents aren't crazy.

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May 9th 2024, 20:45:45

No it's just you. When reality isn't quite flattering enough for you, you detach and create your own. It's how you win every argument. It's how it's always the other person at fault. It's how you are the real smart one. It's how you win a fight that's only going on in your mind.

Yes it was a mistake to engage with you. The secret king always wins, so the secret king never learns and is incapable of growth.

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May 9th 2024, 20:17:44

News to me. You didn't have any points. You live in imagined world in your mind, you hallucinate most of what you see people write to you and you always win every fight in your mind.

No one can defeat the secret king.

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May 9th 2024, 19:59:23

Uhh... You think this is a fight? And someone else is fighting for me?

I'm baffled. Seriously all you have to do is talk less and people will think better of you.

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May 9th 2024, 19:18:31

That's called heartfelt advice, which you should take.

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May 9th 2024, 16:55:55

Originally posted by BlackHole:
Oh one more thing Empy.


This has nothing to do with M4D. I'll be honest, I didn't even know TC was in M4D until recently. So hopefully you don't feel the need to stick up for him. I get that you're a loyal guy and want to defend your peeps, but is TC really your peeps?


Let the dude fight his own battles. He's the one who started talking trash to me. Don't come save him now that I've fluff slapped him. Let him figure his own way out of this hole.


No one started trash talk to you bud

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May 9th 2024, 1:25:58

Originally posted by BlackHole:
Originally posted by Turtle Crawler:
Originally posted by BlackHole:
TC - you might be my new favorite person.

I absolutely adore your lawn chair psychology you engage in. It's better than watching an episode of Law and Order SVU. The creativity with which you make up things that you think sound like brain type things is excellent.



Can you please explain to me, how does someone posting a gif from the internet to make fun of you indicate a 'detachment from reality'?



You watch law and order SVU and you aren't a girl. Pretty sure "how" I know isn't the right question.




Oh you're going to go with the diversion and deflection tactic, clever! Don't actually respond to anything I've said, instead make non sequitor statements that aren't valuable for anything more than a higher word count on a term paper.



I'll ask again.

What about someone posting a gif on a forum makes them 'detached from reality'?


Or if you'd prefer you can just admit that what you said didn't really make any sense, and we can move on. Your choice.


When did I ever say that was from the link you posted? You demonstrate your detachment from reality in your very defence against it.

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May 9th 2024, 0:44:20

Originally posted by BlackHole:
TC - you might be my new favorite person.

I absolutely adore your lawn chair psychology you engage in. It's better than watching an episode of Law and Order SVU. The creativity with which you make up things that you think sound like brain type things is excellent.



Can you please explain to me, how does someone posting a gif from the internet to make fun of you indicate a 'detachment from reality'?



You watch law and order SVU and you aren't a girl. Pretty sure "how" I know isn't the right question.