I post this in Express thread before but I guess there's no chance of any developer who cares picking it up in there. But I beg please Express is desperately crying out for more



Developers please just go and make changes and patches every week in Express - it can be be miunor adjustments and balance changes - whatever just do it !!!!! We need something new in this game!!! If it turns out the patch was bad just revert it next week. This is not hard guys just tweak numbers and mechanics until we get a nice balanced constantly improving game. Just do it!! It's impossible to make the game worse if you test a new balance patch or mechanic every week in Express and then at the end of the week choose to KEEP the change or REVERT the change.


Very simple dev work - every pretty good game that keeps their playerbase engaged is doing this!!!!!!

Developers please just go and make changes and patches every week in Express - it can be be miunor adjustments and balance changes - whatever just do it !!!!! We need something new in this game!!! If it turns out the patch was bad just revert it next week. This is not hard guys just tweak numbers and mechanics until we get a nice balanced constantly improving game. Just do it!! It's impossible to make the game worse if you test a new balance patch or mechanic every week in Express and then at the end of the week choose to KEEP the change or REVERT the change.


Very simple dev work - every pretty good game that keeps their playerbase engaged is doing this!!!!!!

The reason the playerbase is so low is because the developers do not add CONTENT, PATCHES or UPDATES

The reason the playerbase is so low is because the developers do not add CONTENT, PATCHES or UPDATES

What does Primary or Express have to do with it?

Why would Express have bots but not Primary ????? The only reason is PLAYERBASE it's not about it being good for the game. It's TERRIBLE for the game. Bots are good yes but NOT when the metagame is full blown PvE and the best strategy is to never attack another human.

I'll also add the Express is the ONLY server with such a high storage of usable turns at 360 - WOW! Others have 120 only. But it does not add to the game play it makes the game play much worse

That can be tuned too even a small minor update such as 280 ( 440 ) would be very nice to see how this affects game play

My suggestion here, change max turns stored from 360 (360) to 180 (540) - this will not affect anyone who is unable to play much as the total turns that can be stored is the same but the amount which can be used at once is reduced - that means less stocking turns to blast all at once and a better game play experience for ALL

I thank you for drawing this to everyone's attention. Someone who is double the size of another cannot land grab a human because the other human can simply do nothing and afk until they save enough turns. Doing nothing and afk, just saving turns, this should not be the ideal strategy you should not be punished for actively using your turns and rewarded for saving turns - this is not great game play at all - why are no veterans calling this out??? Are they all scared of change???????

Every set the top 10 players will accumulate points - for example (numbers can be tuned - this example I give is for express) rank #1 will get 10 points, #2 gets 9 points, etc and the others outside of the top 10 get 1 point each. These points can be spent out of set to vote on suggestions and improvements to the game and the winning suggestions/improvements will get implemented temporarily as a *test* to see if the changes improve the overall game experience.

Players who know what they are doing, always min maxing, veteran, etc in the top 10 will have proven that they are capable of understand how the game works and their voting power is more important as they will understand balance patches and implications more than others. The players who consistently make it to the top of the leaderboards show that they are committed to the game and therefore their contribution is more valuable than others!!!

Anyone? Can you point your finger at anyone except the developers?

You are all very good veteran players - let's not farm vulnerable afk bots that can't attack back because it's not even a real game.

I have come back after 3 years from, this game and so sad to see the state of affairs for PvE is no different to 3 years ago. How is it a good game when you just attack a bot standard strike unlimited times with 0 consequence but if you hit a human it's set ruined? Just play single player for that or go on the test server??????

No point in creating this thread the developers don't do anything the game hasn't had anything in 20 years. The developers need to either make improvements or fluff off and let someone else do it - don't let a good 30 year old game die a slow death - you all here are veterans if you wanna keep playing this until you are 80 it's up to you to push these developers. It happened already many times in the last 30 years new devs, new owners, it's been WAY TOO LONG we need someone who CARES and HAS TIME

ya pretty sad this 360+360 turn bullfluff is pretty lame. just do nothing have 0 defense is the best strategy - fluffing awesome!!!!!!!! this game has a LOT of improvements to go if it wants to retain or gain new players!!!

ya pretty sad this 360+360 turn bullfluff is pretty lame. just do nothing have 0 defense is the best strategy - fluffing awesome!!!!!!!! this game has a LOT of improvements to go if it wants to retain or gain new players!!!

DOUBLE YOUR DEFENSE FOR FREE IN A GAME WHERE PVP IS ALREADY NONEXISTENT HAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

ok just had some more issues pop up. sorry guys but i have to say the user interface and annoyances in this game is on an insane level i think the developrs need to start thinking about who they can pass this game on to because they are doing a pretty average job I would say not just now, its been YEARS possibly a decade. If i had ownership of this game trust me there would be massive content updates and way more new players. If you dont wanna maintain the game just give the game to someone else !!!!!!!!!!!

WHERE IS THE FORMULA FOR ATTACKING SOMEONE WITH ALLIANCES? NO WHERE IN THE IN GAME GUIDES? HOW ARE NEW PLAYERS SUPPOSED TO ATTACK IF THEY HAVE NO IDEA HOW IT WORKS??????





NO WONDER THIS GAME HAS ****ZERO**** NEW PLAYERS SINCE 20 YEARS

THIS IS A RIDICULOUS CHANGE HOW CAN THERE BY DEFENSIVE ALLIANCES WHEN YOU ARENT ALLOWED TO ALLY??????? I DONT UNDERSTAND???????? WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE HITS ON HUMANS NO DISCOURAGE?????????????????????

Now you might say that would enable people to simply farm off of each other but the implementation details and how to counter that is up to developers!

My idea is to add a new technology, or a new something, that will protect construction sites from being destroyed or allow them to be easily salvaged or allows them to be rebuilt without costing turns (maybe still costs $$ though).

If this is implemented then PvP players engaging in a 1v1 war or simply a 1 for 1 trade will not lose construction sites when they get land grabbed or ABd or nuked which is a huge positive and this will allow people to farm humans instead of bots optionally. The loss of turns when you get hit is far too great as you have to rebuild the construction sites - get rid of this mechanic please!!!

Looks like im the most famous kunt on the server again. Don't worry I'll be purpled in no time again for owning too hard then quit coz realise the guy I am owning is in bed with the mods - don't worry though coz the 30 player pop in express is sure to last forever at this rate!!!!!!

I don't want to ruin both our sets but since I made the mistake and this 20 year old game which hasn't been updated in the slightest since 20 years ago.


I would much prefer it if everyone was attacking each other all the time with real PvP instead of this PvE metagame that we have had for so long and the devs have not yet done anything to improve the situation. If that was the case this would just be normal business as usual and a good set for both me and you - but because of the very bad GDI system I have to ruin both of our sets

I am sorry reddot (#27) as I accidentally attacked you twice and that will therefore allow you to nuke and AB me and ruin my set. I wish I could do something to repair this mistake but there's nothing in these 20 year old game mechanics that allows me to do anything other than continue with unlimited land grabs on your country and ruin your set and hopefully I will get out of networth range of attack.

I am sorry reddot (#27) as I accidentally attacked you twice and that will therefore allow you to nuke and AB me and ruin my set. I wish I could do something to repair this mistake but there's nothing in these 20 year old game mechanics that allows me to do anything other than continue with unlimited land grabs on your country and ruin your set and hopefully I will get out of networth range of attack.

alse where are the patch notes for express? a forum thread with random forum posts everywhere is not patch notes ??????????????????????????????????????????????

literally 0 attacking of humans and no benefit for attacking them either wtf??? humans can double their defense from a small defense pact wtf????????????? we need to encourage more pvp not turn it in to full blown PvE which developer is in charge of such trash changes ???

to be fair its 2022 im sure u can find out way to solve this forever problem technology and gaming has come a long way in 25 years :) :)

Why not try lol. Always gonna be fluff first time but keep finding improvements

By the way where is the IRC chat? It doesn't work for me anymore

By the way where is the IRC chat? It doesn't work for me anymore

By the way where is the IRC chat? It doesn't work for me anymore

Well I'm here to say on the back off old veteran players - this game hasn't moved forward an inch in terms of players or content or play. The veterans can go and fluff themselves if they are holding this game to ransom until it's slow death

Well I'm here to say on the back off old veteran players - this game hasn't moved forward an inch in terms of players or content or play in like decades. The veterans can go and fluff themselves if they are holding this game to ransom until it's slow death

How would I have ruined someone elses set - by taking their land - that's the point of the game? I was not land fat and very tight, he was the most land fat on the server. It's pretty bullfluff I could only land grab him for 600 acres which is 1% of his total land.

I would love to ask you would it then be fair that if he attacked me he would only get 1% of my acres which was 4000 * .01 = 40 acres?

And especially when the devs have shown recent interest in changing mechanics and formulas. Perhaps a changelog page/thread (comprehensive patch notes) which I could not find anywhere

Thanks - I didn't know this mechanic - it would be good if the mechanics were put on display somewhere for people to consume - especially for such an old game where that information is harder to find now

I don't think we can ever have bots just randomly land grabbing people for gains but at least we can make them harder to land grab for free - it looks like it's a PvE game at the moment. Make the bots discourage land grabs by allowing them to send missiles if they have been land grabbed more than once by the same person - or allow them to spy and determine the weak point of a country - e.g. the bot was land grabbed multiple times by the same human so it spies his attacker, it notices there were no tanks at all and the bot has tanks, so it retaliates by doing AB's. That way a human cannot land grab for free without have anti missile defense tech, and it cannot land grab for free without having a a reasonable number of defense in troops, tanks, etc. We want to make land grabbing bots less free so that people are willing to take more risks and attack humans for more gains

yes I saw that - so it's not typical? Lots of prop to the devs for making the bots actually half alright

My networth was about 9 mil and his networth was about 7 mil at the time - I believe it was above the 60% of networth range for the 7% land grab based on formula I found on the internet.

I will not entertain Gerdler.

Yes I had military strategy but that should increase my gains???????? Yes I oversent quite a lot as I had no spies it was blind attack - is there an actual formula or guidance on land grabbing because I did not expect only 600 acres from someone my own size with over 10x my land (52k land). And the enemy had ZERO DR/diminishing returns.

Can anyone explain please why I got 600 acres from a guy who had 52,000 acres

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Please do "bots cannot be attacked" instead. This will mean the economy will be a bit less changed. Also it would be good to see how far bots can go without being gang banged by humans

jokes on u, developers are long gone

how long until a mod owns up to falsely purple us???

you seem to think there is an active developer for this game. thats a joke and a half

I dont have to prove that someone isnt my multi. Its up to the mods to prove that. Pretty common sense really. Why should I believe that trumpoz isnt your multi ?

ive appealed to qzjul to replace these mods, so they see me as a threat. too bad qzjul is actually completley gone, doesnt talk, doesnt login to IRC or anything, just gone.

here is the evidence. we both got purpled straight after. we are in alliance server and helping each other is allowed so this is a false purple


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i already know the reason. mods are highly biased against me because i called them out multiple times already

yes he is, and we got purpled instantly after that incident so assume that is the reason as there couldnt be any other legit reason - i havent even been playing recently so there cant be any other reason. this is why im calling mod abuse. its very likely the guy he LGd 10 times was friends with a mod and the mod purpled us for attacking this guy.