most people don't realize that a lot of science is based on faith as well...it's not as clearcut as just one is bs and the other is fact.

That's the thing. Most alliances (MD and Omega included) don't really pull off anything. The only alliance that does is really Laf when they midfeed. But it is much easier to net in Evo or Laf because of their netgaining tools, better tech allies, leaders who are focused on/know how to position their alliances for netting. Of all the ridiculous claims I've made tonight, the one that is absolutely true is that being in Evo or Laf during a netting set gives you a significant advantage over any other alliance.

i think anybody who plays a t10 commie is impressive.

yep this sums it up properly. i'm not as good getting land as the elite laffers, and hanlong perfectly places laffers in a position to get land almost every set. i'll admit hanlong and other laffers will outgrab me any day (even dazedboy does!), but i do more with less land than most people.

The hit counts for Laf are probably skewed from last reset because they warred all set. I'll freely admit I'm not the best warrer, but i was fully participating in every single war.

What alliance are you in? You don't seem to know much about the netgaining environment these days. I won't rehash stuff from past resets, but the idea that it's easier to net in Omega or MD than Laf or Evo is ridiculous. I'm sure Laf or Evo will freely admit this.

I've actually warred three resets, including one set where I was involved in two wars. Also, none of my finishes have involved any FA or alliance buyout or anything. Even Laf should be able to admit that I'm one of the cleanest top netgainers.

none, but i'm not the top MDer this set.

yes but in solo servers, you don't have alliance mates to help you retal. i wanna see you try to midfeed by yourself on alliance (in the middle of the reset, not late grabs)!

which 4 countries have you been? maybe i haven't beaten you, but i've definitely beaten bakku and eug on even ground.

http://alliance.www.earthempires.com/serverprofile?id=3440

Well I played 10 years ago but came back recently, so I can't really control what happened in the ten years in between.

LOL that's what people who can't net and have to rely on FA to the top say! you know better than that hanlong :P

set's not over yet!

I won last reset. Do you even look at the game profiles? I've only been playing for 8 resets in EE, but I currently am #1 in NW and #1 in top tens.

I didn't say midfeeding takes no skill. It's a different kind of skill. But it's also not that hard when your whole alliance is farming a small clan. With the exception of maybe Oden last reset, there really is no such thing as successful individual midfeeding in the game today without at least 4 or 5 other clanmates helping you out.

[quote poster=SolidSnake; 15155; 272577]Lol. Me trolling highrock (someone who I generally get along with decently well?) seemingly has got way out of hand ;) but since you seem to feel honesty is the best policy, i too shall oblige.



Since you've gone all ragetroll i'll post my honest two cents. Firstly, anyone that claims to be a netgainer that is confined to knowledge about one strategy is a nub. Competitive netgaining involves being able to predict market trends before a reset begins, being able to adapt to market trends once a reset has begun, and being an elite level land grabber. Can you honestly state you posses all three qualities?

Yes? I've finished top 10 with three different strategies in the last 3 sets.



Finishing near the top? are you kidding me? in this netgaining environment a borderline retarded blindfolded monkey running an all explore, would finish "near the top". So lets get that out of the way first.

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you were mad about something else and this was you venting because for you to have an honest held belief that you could out-netgain LT would be funny, and as i've told LT many times, LT sucks ;), but to believe you could consistently out-netgain Xin, or hlw, or eug, or chun, or bakku, or well me... Well, frankly i would suggest then your netgaining ability, and your grasp on reality have something in common, in that they both leave something to be desired.

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Yet somehow only 3 or 4 of Laffers can consistently finish in the top 10? If it were so easy, why doesn't everybody do it. I'm pretty sure if I were gifted land the way Laf is most resets, I can hang with/beat any one of you most of the time. I don't understand why that's so hard to believe. You, Xin, Hanlong, bakku, and eug are elite netgainers, some of the best of the best, but I've beaten you before (and you've beaten me too). I've beaten bakku and eug before as well. I taught bakku how to destock the first time he won. The only person who I think might be better than me is hanlong, but I think we're very close. In any given reset, depending on land and politics, any one of us can win, but I think my track record is way more consistent than any one of you so I don't know why you think I don't have a grasp on reality...

Yes.
5 out of the 8 resets I've played.
Untags or war.

wtf? who are you?

maybe you should actually look at the scoreboards and game profiles before you open your mouth so you don't look like an idiot.

hanlong, one day when we are done with politics, we should both join a third alliance and net it out for reals.

And I wasn't going to say anything, but since apparently my head is already too big and apparently Laf thinks I'm an idiot, I will say that I am absolutely better than any of your top Laffers. I have proven again and again that I can outperform anybody without ever being given free land or abusing small clans in non-war situations (a la when Laf starts farming ICN, PDM, 2025, etc.). Try finishing near the top 8 resets in a row without ever being gifted land or abusing small clans and then we can talk.

I'm sorry I didn't memorize the cashing formula after never having played casher. Maybe my top 5 casher this set will help make up for it.

And actually, my fascist destock ABSOLUTELY outperformed a theo destock, even if the fascist bonus didn't go away. It was always a matter of fascist versus demo. And also, whether or not the fascist bonus goes away is still unclear, because one of our guys tested it last set and it did go away for him. I've asked this on the Q&A board without an admin response. Unless you have tested it for sure, quit acting like I don't know what I'm talking about.

And I did think a techer would win. I just severely underestimated the ability of KSF to net with techers. If I had one of their early land 20k techers this set, there is no doubt I would be ahead of Oden right now. Also, I'm not convinced Oden isn't getting FA or something.

And it's funny how all the Laffers suddenly think I can't net when the political environment of this game has changed.

When was the last time Omega or Monsters really had a top 10 presence?

or is this a ridiculously crappy netting reset? i think 220M will win it with a t10 cutoff of like 160M.

a techer with early land will always have a chance to win regardless of the tech market.

that's too bad because a few of those KSF techers probably could've won if they hadn't let him leech.

i doubt oden is getting #1

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anybody on? PM me please.

It's not about whether they are married per se, but about what it says about that person. Let's face it. There is absolutely no way we can tell for sure whether or not a person would do a good job, so we have to look for signals. One of them is whether or not they have a stable personal life as an indicator of how they are as a person and how they are likely to deal with people and situations.

It's like saying it doesn't matter whether the President went to college or not as long as they are capable and know their stuff, but it's highly unlikely we would vote for somebody without a college degree as it's a tangible indicator of fairly intangible qualities.

go to circus^2

why can't killing a country ahead of you also be strategy?

actually the real policy is

If you declare war against a country and it falls out of humanitarian range, you should have the option to declare peace immediately instead of waiting 48 hours. There's no reason why you should be stuck at war when you can't hit them.

I've been unable to get that bonus for many days now. Everytime I vote, it seems to go through on that website, but EE does not update me as having voted nor does it award my bonus points.

Imag is like the ultimate netting alliance...they always help place multiple top 10s and this reset looks like it's no different

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Due to the scarcity of land this reset, as a Christmas present to our members, we have set some of our NAPs to Will Retal in our database. All terms in the pacts that we signed in the beginning of the reset still hold. We're just allowing some more grabbing. This is not an invitation to landtrade. We only see this as temporary. If you have any questions or concerns, please feel free to contact us.

Happy Holidays from MD!

How is what they do not a sign of being skillful? What's the definition of being skillful?

we're going to FS Omega soon! you don't want to miss the fun!

A topfeed is defined however we choose to define it. If you don't like it, don't hit us, that's not our problem.

which one is your country?

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join MD! we just won a war, TNW, and the #1 spot last reset! we clearly rock!

yes

too many questions!

I knew I forgot something!

The following is MD's retal policy:

- 1:1 retal within 72 hours, escalating for multiple hits 2:1, 3:1 etc. Hits within 48 hours of a retal will be considered a RoR and will be retalled accordingly.
- All topfeeds will be retalled 90% L:L excluding ghost acres. Topfeeds are defined as when the defender has 125% or more of the attacker's land before the grab.
- Hits on any country involved in land trading can only be retalled on a 1:1 basis.
- All special attacks will be retalled 2:1 escalating for multiple hits or reps as agreed between the FA's of both alliances
- 72 hour tag responsibility, for the avoidance of doubt any country tagging from your alliance to an alliance at war with MD must be killed within 48 hours by your alliance
- No FAing/assisting a tag that is at war with MD

Any pact terms replace these policies.

Please direct any FA inquiries to the MD presidential council for this reset:

- Jax
- highrock
- Y-Not

Our contact info is available at
http://www.boxcarhosting.com/...l/viewPage.php?pageID=460

We can also be reached via forum PM.

my life is complete!

or another Sof FA, are you around right now? i'm idling in #sof.

oh and I'd prefer if a mod or somebody who has tested this out answer this, rather than somebody who just read slagpit's post, because i've read it as well.