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THE LETTERS OF POWER!

Ţepeş, ţiam trimis mesaj. Poţi să aplici la LaF. Cel puţin ţinem legătura şi mai discutăm. Ciao!
-Dragoş

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For our District, consider the following:

* there are 398 positions open for Precinct Committeeman
* there are 146 of those seats filled
* of those, only 60 showed up to last night's meeting (+9 proxies, that we didn't need to use; by our rules, a quorum of 20% was met). There were other guests present, but they did not have the right to vote.
* of those present, 37 voted to pass the resolution (+9 proxies, that we didn't need to use)

At the right time, in the right place; every vote DOES count!

Winning over the hearts and minds; one meeting at a time.

This was about the Arizona National Committewoman vote that they failed to conclude at the convention back in May. They did only 1 round, and did not complete the runoff. Then they sat on it for over 3 months, and did noting about it. They waited until after the National Convention, to say "oh look, it's vacant now; this is how it gets filled (and it can be anyone, doesn't have to be the 3 that were originally on the first ballot)."

So, I sent a resolution to our district chairman several days ago resolving some of these main points; condemning the state party; and requesting that only those 2 eligible for runoff be considered. I took the resolution from some other groups that were using the same thing and added the 2 eligible for runoff. She allotted some time for me to present and speak on it last night.

I even had opposition from a gentleman who was the CD chair at the convention; and he's now on the nominating committee. Read: establishment guy.

Anyway, it came down to 60 PCs present who could vote. 37 voted in favor to pass, leaving 23 who did not. It passed!!! And we did not even get to use our 9 proxies!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McwJT_sm-IQ


By the way, we were told that this is the first time in this this district and previous district (re-organization) that our chairwoman had a resolution brought forward. And it passed!

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That's one of the reason's why I loved my 401k. Loved, in the past tense, because I haven't been able to contribute in a while. If I could opt out of SS, and put it all in my own 401k. I'd do it in a heartbeat.



I've been working in a small company for almost 3 years now. When I joined there were about 11-12 employees. Now we're over 30 employees. They finally managed to get a company sponsored medical plan, instead of the state sponsored medical plan. I can tell you that the state sponsored one sucked. It was more expensive and covered less. With the new plans, which HSA is one of them; the HSA is FAR cheaper for all age groups, and the difference I used to pay, I'm putting in the HSA. It's a far better option for us.



We would have to have a number of states get fed up, and exert their states rights. For example, states can opt out of Obamacare, and they won't get financially penalized. If 5 states opt out, the others have to increase price. So it'll be a tipping point where it won't make financial sense to stay in it, since everyone's going to jump on "free healthcare". You'll have a handful of states paying for everyone. Bankrupting those states. But yes, once more states exert states rights, a Constitutional Convention can be more successfully called.

Those participating in the convention will be the state governors, and the state legislatures. NOT anyone from Congress. Besides they have such a piss-poor record and approval, I don't think ANYONE wants them in our Constitutional Convention.

Going back to Democracy vs Republic.
The American Colonists complained about "no taxation without representation". The British Monarchy said, "but you are represented, 'virtually' ". The Americans didn't buy it, the 'representatives' where appointed, they were not elected by the people. With today's current affairs, it almost feels like a large number of them are 'appointed' and not 'elected'.

In the American Constitution put many checks and balances in place. The Constitutional Convention is one of them; it hasn't been used in a LONG time.

Ahhh geez, the Democrats did the same thing with the voice vote?! *sigh* It seems like their both puppets to the teleprompters...

So define who the "terrorists" are. And why were the pirate laws of hundreds of years ago insufficient?

Oh and by the way, we're now buddy-buddy with Al Qaida again*, by supporting them in Syria's "opposition" .

* Again because we created them (Mujahedeen), and now reigned in their leader. We'll kill them again with drone strikes when they fall out of line, including American citizens.

Hopefully others will wake up and see the fallacy in these foreign policies, and why NON-INTERVENTION (not "isolationism") is the best choice for Americans.

I'm glad others are paying attention! No trial, no jury, no lawyer, just shipped off to a military prison (Gitmo style). That is the *POWER* they now wield. With the DHS definition that anyone who is suspicious of the central government, and loves their liberties, is deemed a terrorist. And the Republicans failed 4 times to add "removal of indefinite detention" into the party platform. Not that it seems to matter anymore; Boehner admitted no one reads the platform, and now they have the power to change it willy nilly (in case we try to hold them accountable to the platform).

I'm trying to bring this to the attention to the two state legislatures I'm closest to. I know our state passed a nullification against the NDAA for the citizens of the state of Arizona. We have Repub majority of our State House and State Senate, and our Repub Governor vetoed it (twice?). *sigh* -_- But with the grassroots bringing the attention to marines such as Staub, this is lifting the scales of their eyes, and HOPEFULLY they can see the WISDOM IN THE CONSTITUTION!

Here's a youtube video of this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B39W91O-rUg

The "ayes" vs "nays" is at 3:31, with a link to another video showing the teleprompter.

It's happening in the elections too. I don't trust voting machines. There is obvious vote flipping going on. http://ralphlopez.hubpages.com/...aries-Mathematicians-Find

Voting machines need to have a paper trail, and to be able to audit the voting machines. It's too easy for the results to go into a box, and never be seen again. (I spent over 4 hours being an observer at my local poll this past Tuesday. I saw the equipment get taken down and the "memory card" and "printout" get sent off, and the paper, early mail-in, and provisional ballots get sealed.)

I'm complaining about the Republican National Convention. We're supposed to be the party that supports the REPRESENTATIVE (Republican) form of government. (That's what our constitution setup, and that's what we pledge allegiance to, the Republic; not Democracy).

Several states (about 5 in all) had their delegates (which represent the districts and states that they come from) wrongfully removed. The most egregiousness being the state of Maine. Maine had 20 of 23 delegates removed. All 23 of these delegates were elected by the people of Maine, and those 20 were Ron Paul supporters. The candidate they support should have no bearing on the status of their seat. The state party chairman, didn't remove himself, and instead appointed those other 20 seats; 10 of which were Romney supporters.

Maine already got screwed over at the primary, when the party stopped counting the votes after 84% being reported. They got the result they wanted, and shut it down.

For the delegation, Maine had gone through the appropriate channels to contest the removal of their delegates; but the credentialing committee, and the committee on contests sided against the people of Maine, and with the party, again and again. The last option was to amend the report on the floor (all the delegates at the convention). But, rules were broken again (SURPRISE!) and the chairman sided with the "Ayes" (to keep the delegates they appointed) when it was clear that it was too close to call with the "Nays" (to seat the delegates that the people had voted for). Some that were there, claim that "the ayes have it" was on the teleprompter. The chairman of the convention, Boehner (also House majority leader), refused to listen to any points of order, or a roll call. A roll call is important to get the exact number of votes, when it's too close to call, and more importantly to make sure those that said "aye" or "nay" actually have the right to vote, and are not guests.

As you can see, this obviously is NOT a REPRESENTATIVE (Republican) form of governing.

This is not just about the Nominees. It's also about the Platform and about the Rules, which are also voted by the delegates at the convention. The latest Rules that they have adopted, is fundamentally changing the way the party works. Making it top-down, instead of bottom-up / grassroots / representation. But I guess if they've already screwed over the states, removing free thinking individuals, and appointed party towing robots, they can go ahead and shove Rules changes too.

Ahhh! Anyway, this is at a national level. I have work to do to clean up my state. Tuesday we had our primary. So I am now officially a Precinct Committeeman, with the right to vote in the party. I also got some people in my family in, which were in uncontested seats. So this will give me more voting power when it comes to the District, County and State leadership positions. There will be various events for these votes from November-January (after the general election). Things will get fun. We'll clean up our house, then clean up the country. I am not alone. Lots of other people in other states are waking up and doing the same thing.

Looks like #RNCpowergrab hit the second spot on trends in Twitter. That's what this whole post was about. Not the left/right 2 dimension (and thus 2 party) paradigm. "Official business" will be starting up soon. CSPAN is covering it. But I'm also looking at other live feeds from those inside.

And they cleared out the jail in Tampa too. Like they're anticipating an influx :-P

I've been following some twitter feeds and other sites where observers and people at the meetings have been posting and live blogging. So, I'm following things as closely as I can.

It's not just about Ron Paul, it's bigger than him. It's about getting back to the Constitution, and what this Country was founded on.

Why bother having rules, if you're deliberately break them, and leave it open for you to change at any time?


I was at my Arizona State Convention back in May as a delegate. I saw the stuff that went on at a state level.
* Endorsements on the BALLOT; like we need some sort of REMINDER of who we HAVE to pick; I guess the slates floating around weren't effective enough
* Priority given to those endorsed, and placed at the top.
* Vote counting in "secret" in the back on un-validated machines. (I was an observer)
* Tallying errors with said voting machines, SURPRISE!
* Over voting (voting on more people than you were supposed to)
* Ballot stuffing
* Closing the convention improperly and early, without resolving the National Commiteewoman (NCW) vote.

Regarding the NCW vote, they never contacted any of the delegates, or the person who was in 1st place (1st of 3; needed to have a runoff, since she didn't get majority, just plurality). It seems like they are waiting for the NCW seat to be "vacant", when her term is up after the RNC; and then they can fill it with whomever they want.

State Commiteemen, which I'm working towards; get to pick the party leadership in January. I've got work to do in my state to clean things up; starting with my District, then County, then State. But, at least I'm doing my part.

* Vote stealing and blatant voter fraud
* didn't like results, so invalidate delegates
* change rules to never allow a dissenting opinion again
* leave the rules to be open and changed by the CAMPAIGN, and the PARTY at any time, without any input from the delegates.

(and I can go in depth on a number of these)

I mean seriously, if this is any indication of how he runs things, I'm afraid of what he's going to do in the White House.

We're supposed to be a REPUBLIC, not a DEMOCRACY, or more increasingly an OLIGARCHY. Don't believe me? Read the Constitution and recite the pledge of allegiance! In a republic, the people are being represented.

And we're supposed to be the Party for State's rights. But no, we don't think they know how to run a convention, so we'll invalidated their results; just to knock Paul below the 5 State plurality. And that's after we tried to change the rules to a 10 state plurality. What a crock of fluff!

Naw, you got me figured all wrong. I didn't vote for Obama, nor McCain.

I'm sorry to say, that if the events from the past few days, and specifically today, are any indication; I'm extremely displeased and disappointed.

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So, I'm interested in recording my country turn-by-turn. Is there currently any way of doing that?

Yes, I have adblock too. Sorry, you're not getting any click through revenue from me :-P. I would be in favor of a monthly/yearly/lifetime subscription, and a premium server for those that paid :-)

Ron Paul!

PEMDAS
Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally.
Parentheses, Exponents, Multiplication, Division, Addition, Subtraction.

5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 x 0 = ?
5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + 5 + 5 - 5 + (5 x 0) = ?
15 + 0 = ?
15!

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If you come with the original perspective that; we are all sovereign individuals; we retain all rights; we willfully give up some of our rights to the state, and some of our rights to the federal government; we still have checks and balances; we govern ourselves. Then the answer is pretty simple; always lean towards individual liberty.

Something I read the other day. The sovereign state is a good check/balance to an over reaching federal government. Don't like a federal law? Exert your right as a state to nullify.

Also, another interesting concept. Jurors also can judge the law and judge the facts (in some states). Returning power to the people, where it should have been in the first place.

As I've said in another thread, the USA was built on the principle that we are sovereign individuals. We, the People, retain all rights; we govern ourselves. As sovereign individuals, who have given part of our rights to the local and federal government, we cannot give them rights that we ourselves do not have.

We're supposed to be governed by the ordinary person, not an elite class.

Be careful how far you take the idea of "expert opinion consensus". It's widely used to not allow for a discussion or a marketplace of ideas.


And as with all things, get involved. Armchair politics is not enough.

The Constitution of the United States
Article 1, Section. 7.
All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

That's pretty plain and simple to me. And again, "No Taxation Without Representation".

The Senate does sometime (successfully) circumvent this by taking a bill that passed from the House, and changing the contents of the bill (sometimes changing the entire content of the bill). But in it's face, it goes against both the spirit and the letter of the Constitution.

Another option:
* Nullification in the states. States can nullify the law. The SCOTUS already said that medicaid cannot be withheld from states that do not participate.

Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime.

These days, too many people want fish, fewer people want fishing polls and to learn how to use them.

TRUE compassion is using YOUR time, talent, and treasure to help your fellow man to be able to sustain himself and his responsibility (family); produce more than consume; set aside from the bounty to survive the famine.

FALSE compassion is using SOMEONE ELSE'S time, talent, and treasure to give them a handout; shirk responsibility; consume more than their fair share; and instant gratification. All, while patting one's self on the back.

In the USA, it's not a Democracy; it never was. A Democracy would allow 50%+1 would control the "losing" or "minority" group. The USA has always been a Republic, electing people to represent you. This is harder to egregiously control and abuse smaller groups. Most countries do not have a direct Democracy.



Further, I would add that the USA was built on the principle that we are sovereign individuals. We, the People, retain all rights. Our government is the one that has enumerated powers. All powers not explicitly in control of the government belong to the people. We have given part of our rights to the states, and part of our rights to the federal government.

As sovereign individuals, who have given part of our rights to the local and federal government, we cannot give them rights that we ourselves do not have. Since we do not have the right or authority to steal, we cannot give that right to someone else.




Social "equality" simply does not work. Given enough time, the culture as a whole will change. People will do less, and expect more. The society as a whole will decline, if it's an honest one. If it's dishonest, then some "are more equal than others", and will get more than their "fair share".

Why penalize the successful? They will not strive for it. Why not make it more painful or difficult to remain uneducated, unproductive, and only a consumer.

In regards to the recent obamacare:
It's my understanding that it's an "opinion" and not a "ruling", and only because the case was pre-emptively brought to court. IE, no one is currently impacted by the law, they wanted to clear things up before the law takes affect.

If you read the opinion, it says that the affordable health care act "could not" be considered under the commerce clause, or the second (I forgot which one), but "could" be considered under the taxation clause.

We're still left with several options.
* The bill technically did not originate in the House, and this is unconstitutional. Remember "No Taxation Without Representation", all taxes must originate from the House, and not the Senate. There may have to be a separate lawsuit for this.
* The bill can still be repealed by Congress.
* Taxpayers can sue once the "tax" is in affect, they have paid, and demand a "refund".
* Taxpayers, can not pay, and nothing happens to them. The bill was promised and written in such a way that it is "not a tax". So there is language that only the IRS can collect an enforce the "tax", no one else. There's also language that the IRS cannot impose levies or fines if you DON'T pay, so nothing really happens. You just carry your tax liability for this, and it's separate from all the other taxes.

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I'm still hoping for a Ron Paul victory in Tampa :-)
Unless he gets the nomination, or SERIOUSLY influences the platform AND they stick with it, I'll be looking at third parties again.

Voting for the "lesser of two evils, is still making a deal with the devil", and it will only slide the scale towards more evil. Just take a look at far from our Constitution we've moved.

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* Graduated with a BSE in Computer Systems Engineering.
* Been doing Software Engineering and Systems Engineering in the Avionics industry.
* Baby maker.

Oh I'm doing something about it :-P

I managed to go to my state convention as a state delegate. Got to see things first hand, and I DID NOT LIKE what I saw.

I'm a Precinct Committeeman now, and got several of my family in my precinct and district as well. I have some work to do to get more at the next cycle. I'm going to make sure I hold the local, county and state party leaders, as well as elected officials responsible and accountable.

I got tired of the news and arm chair politics. Time to step up and engage. I'm still hoping for a Ron Paul victory at the RNC in Tampa :-)

Neither of them are good :-P