sorry.. just realized that you were talking about making the distinction when those all jetters do their retals. sorry mate, in my books, an alljetter at that stage of the game is just not a good player. take last set's winner for example. go check his country out. thats how a good commie plays in my books.

of course, this is just MY opinion. you may not agree with this and i may not agree with your opinion. hence why i said:

blid, 11m jet/2m turrets IS alljets. can anyone seriously disagree? anyone?

if you quickly convert those jets into turrets, then do it before i can farm you. seriously, if you can convert 11m jets/2m turrets into 8m jets/5m turrets or maybe 11m jets/8m turrets before i can farm you, i would say nice retal.

blid, its really tough to make the distinction when those countries have barely ran their turns. i do try but its really rather difficult because most or actually almost all of these countries are about the same. about 180cs, pure indy complex, some indy tech, tons of turns stored. are you telling me i shouldnt even think about touching commies? in that case... shouldnt everyone be playing commie? no one is supposed to touch them and it is the easiest strat to play anyway.

but in all honesty, i actually do avoid hitting commies because most jetters are commies. you can check out my country last set blid, not a single attack on a commie.

and again, i do not want to make an enemy. i was answering the question posted by viperbeauty.

ingle... if you check my news (MariGold Peel Fresh), you'll find that i didnt really attack alot compared to alot of ppl.
i also know that most of these last minute 'alljetter retallers' are commies. so i make it a point to avoid hitting commies but i am still 'lucky' enough to bump into one of these 'alljetter retallers' almost every set... its just my luck man i tell you.

you're right here... eating one retal doesnt really screw one's reset up much. and it is better to not take the 'free land' but, its just not me to let these pricks get away with it. i say pricks because most of the ones i've met are. this set it was a buddy of yours mate. :P you can check with him if what i said about him doing it because his set was screwed is true. :D

ingle: going jets during jump is normal. low cost, same nett as turrets and commies dont/should not produce troops or tanks when netting. so its only normal to have such high jets during the jump. thats what you're saying right?
i'd agree with you if thats what you're saying because when i play commie, i play with 1:1 ratio, max out turrets during stocking then produce jets during jump and got rood results. also, i dont play delayed.

blid: you can call your strategy 'retaller' and i shall call mine 'alljetter farmer'.
if anyone went all jetter and won when i was playing, its probably because our paths didnt cross.
we can both argue about this till the cows come home and still never reach a conclusion blid. you have your way of thinking and i have mine.
i dont intend to make an enemy. i am just saying that i hate ppl who plays your 'alljetter retaller' strat and i will farm them. so lets just hope we dont cross paths when we play. :D

eric: 21m nett is good but still not #1. also, this is the jump, i'm sure he didnt have that kinda unit ratio throughout the set right? i could be wrong so pls do correct me if i am.

h2o, are you telling me to just go all explore and not hit anyone if i dont want to get retalled? or should i just play the way you guys play and go delayed? why dont the admins just set the rule that you have to play delayed?

and i dont blame them for a retal. honestly. retal all they want. but if they come at me with an all jetter, all i see is free land. and if they can retal with an all jetter, i can farm.

and like you dont care when i start stocking, i dont care when you start grabbing. fair right?

you have a point here. i could easily let it go and continue netting. but i feel that if i dont farm them, more all jetters will come at me. so i'll make an example of one and hope the rest learns from it. also, most of them are pricks. this set the guy who retal on me sunday, said he did it because his set is screwed anyways. not because he wanted the land back to netgain, but because his set is screwed so hey, why not cripple someone else netting?

i dont mind doing this every single set because i have full confidence that i can out nett these players any other time. give me one set where i'm lucky enough not to bump into any of this pricks and i'm sure i'll get a good finish.

ericownsyou5: seriously? i've played commie before and i was very turret heavy.

h2o: you just won with a commie right? what was your turret:jet ratio?

blid: sorry, i thought it was the first day. my mistake. i did not check the link.
i have to ask, why is it you only have 2m turrets when he grabbed you?
and like i said, all jetters can come anytime and i'll never stop farming them. i started stocking saturday morning. i'm Marigold Peel Fresh. go check out my news to see when i stopped attacking. so even if i was a parking lot i'd still farm you and out nett you if it were to happen to me saturday night.

crest: actually, i've won before, just not recently. and thats because i just started playing again about 6-7 sets back after years and years of not playing. i'm one of those old timers.

depending on the size of his country and units. i'd personally say an all jetter is someone with 5jets:2turrets.

i dont know if anyone has and thats why i'm asking.

you really need to re-read your first couple sentences... also, how can you be in the top ten and he ends up with 11m turrets and you end up with 11m jets/2m turrets? pls dont tell me that you were in the top 10 during the first day of the game. anyone can just create a country and be top 10 on the first day.

if he can hit you can get 10m def, before you can even think of attacking him, maybe you should consider playing a little more often and not purposely wait to get these 'retals'?

2m turrets IS no defense if you have 11m jets. and NO, i doubt you are the better player and you have a better country. you will probably out nett him ONLY because you got FS with your ABs effectively rendering his country useless and unable to generate income.

whats the difference? take it as a grab or retal. doesnt matter. what would you do? again... top 10 during day 1 is fluffs unless you can maintain.

blid.. seriously... proof read your stuff. before i go on... AGAIN... BEING TOP 10 DURING THE FIRST DAY IS fluffS... i'd say at least 50% of the players have one time or the other been in the top 10 during the first day.

it doesnt matter if the person is ranked #1 when he hits me. if he has your kinda units, 11m jets/2m turrets, i'd farm him and fully expect that person to do something back.

has anyone... anyone at all seen an all jetter win in any server?

yea... always have to watch it in express... too many players like you around.

no way anyone can really stop an idiot from going all jetter and ruining your set just because they can.

and whenever someone farms you, trust me, they are already expecting your AB.

i'm SMART enough to make the 'dumb' attack be cause i need to grow.

you can most definitely take your land back... which also means, so can i...

i'd farm you because you opened yourself up for farming with those kinda units. not because you retal.

no, we're not even close to being the same. if you had 11m jets/2m turrets and i had 11m turrets/2m jets, who do you think will win the trade off in the long run? i'm sure you know the answer to that question... and that is the reason why you resort to AB.

let me just ask you this. if you had 10k acres, 11m jets/2m turrets, then i came along and grabbed you with 3.5k acres, 2m jets/400k turrets, what would you do?

and i'd farm you if you hit me with that kinda units, i'd farm you with at least 4 PS... of course when i do that, i'd have thrown my set out the window and fully expect your ABs... :D

blid... your country isnt the one i'm going at it with... but if you were an alljetter... i dont mine being a parking lot forever as long as i bring you down with me. :D

viper: try everytime you get a good chance of finishing #1 then complain.

blid: just to answer the title of this post... i hate ppl like you...
yea, of course you're allowed to retal... and if you're allowed to retal, i'm allowed to farm you. and you have every right to AB me. we'll keep doing this and you and i will never reach the top.

seriously... keep coming at me as an all jetter and i'll never stop farming you... you can AB all you want because by the time ppl like you can catch up and get enough jets, ppl like myself have already been stocking for an entire day or more. i wont have a problem farming ppl like you without a care for my buildings.

yea... and they expect ppl to respect the retal... i usually just farm their asses... in fact i'm doing one right now... and i had a good chance to have a good finish too this set... been stocking since saturday... but that'll never stop me from farming their asses and just throwing the set away... :D

freaking alot of all jetters this set... anyone from below can just do a ps and get loads of land...

take advantage of this ppl! :D

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grats ebert...

i would've gotten about 20 odd mill but the game finishes at 8am my time. stayed up till about 6am then couldnt take it anymore... lol... still... $18,770,878 nett and a top 10 finish... :D

i'm just very curious...

i spied #93 ealier before while i was looking for targets to hit and i thought he'll be up in the top for sure before #89 came along and screwed him up that is.

thing that i'm curious about is how #89 is able to do all these hits on #93 when #93 only attacked #89 once. #93 is in GDI.

braden, if i do a ROR on you, i may or may not have 190 turns, but i sure as hell have at least 500m, some tanks and the mentality that says,'lets have some fun'. :)

I WILL ROR if you run an all jetter and i sincerely discourage you from going all jetter. we'll both lose in the end... so why do it? :D

it is the right of a person to retal with an all jetter country... if thats something everyone has got to agree with...

then no one can say no to this either...
it is also the right of the person to farm an all jetter country...

infact... it is the right of any player to do any damn thing he/she pleases... including ruining other player's set... lol

its war all set ppl!
be ready with your tanks... :D

let me know if i'm wrong... :D

i'd still very much like it if admins could do something about the alljetters... please. thanks.

admins got to do something about those all jetters...

fixed...

its $1000... the server was just cranky for a bit... it started buying $1000 tech after a while...

err... ok?

the score page aint updating as well... someone do something pls?

how come the market aint buying it up? i thought the market was supposed to automatically buy up any tech being sold at $1000?

h2orich, i'm glad you have at least taken half a step forward by not denying it could have been you.

though a small step, its still a step forward... good for you... :D

h2orich... you sure it aint you doing it?

does anyone else besides me feels that someone is playing multies to create a market best suited for cashers?

i see 2-4 batches of really cheap tech and units being sold that comes on at about the same time... around 5 mins apart or so.

load of stupid techers this set... practically giving tech away for free... :D

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owh... so it was you! lol... if you have not played in over a year, dont act like you know it all. ask, learn and dont be an idiot.

btw, my post about you... that aint bragging. it's just showing ppl how much of an idiot you are. hopefully i can use the past tense about your idiocy after this.

2013-06-01 12:12:34 PS MuayThai (#55) Arise my People (#46) 1024A (1480A)
2013-06-01 03:23:35 CM ryaJ (#139) MuayThai (#55) 372B 12952 C
2013-06-01 03:22:32 AB ryaJ (#139) MuayThai (#55) DH
2013-06-01 03:22:31 AB ryaJ (#139) MuayThai (#55) DH
2013-06-01 03:21:35 AB ryaJ (#139) MuayThai (#55) DH
2013-06-01 03:21:34 AB ryaJ (#139) MuayThai (#55) DH
2013-06-01 03:21:34 AB ryaJ (#139) MuayThai (#55) DH
2013-06-01 03:21:33 AB ryaJ (#139) MuayThai (#55) DH
2013-06-01 03:21:28 AB ryaJ (#139) MuayThai (#55) DH
2013-06-01 02:14:10 PS MuayThai (#55) ryaJ (#139) 1006A (1307A)
2013-06-01 02:14:02 PS MuayThai (#55) ryaJ (#139) 1277A (1754A)
2013-05-31 21:26:38 PS ryaJ (#139) MuayThai (#55) 596A (596A)
2013-05-31 21:25:15 SS ryaJ (#139) MuayThai (#55) DH
2013-05-31 17:45:26 PS MuayThai (#55) Lubb0ck (#35) 359A (638A)
2013-05-31 11:12:28 PS MuayThai (#55) Pakatan Rakyat (#59) 73A (179A)
2013-05-31 11:12:04 PS MuayThai (#55) Nigel (#88) 93A (187A)
2013-05-31 11:03:52 PS MuayThai (#55) JBM (#121) 563A (778A)
2013-05-31 01:52:58 SS ryaJ (#139) MuayThai (#55) 153A (164A)
2013-05-31 01:52:50 SS ryaJ (#139) MuayThai (#55) 258A (302A)
2013-05-31 01:52:32 SS ryaJ (#139) MuayThai (#55) DH
2013-05-31 01:52:19 SS ryaJ (#139) MuayThai (#55) DH
2013-05-31 01:11:42 PS MuayThai (#55) ryaJ (#139) 878A (1110A)
2013-05-30 22:38:28 SS Arise my People (#46) MuayThai (#55) 158A (244A)
2013-05-30 22:34:33 SS Arise my People (#46) MuayThai (#55) 168A (283A)
2013-05-30 07:36:25 SS ryaJ (#139) MuayThai (#55) DH

sorry... my bad... my retal was within 24 hours not 12... and i just remembered, one of the reasons he gave for his RoR...

he said it was unfair for me to retal when his initial hit on me was a DH.

damn it... should've saved the ingame msges for you guys to read. you'd probably die laughing or be so shocked at his stupidity, you'd cry your tear ducts dry.

i dont think its Jayr.

i think Jayr's country was rayJ. i had a run in with him. RoR because he whined that my retal on his hit which was within 12hours is late.

subsequently lost 2k land to me, tried to AB me, failed then dropped all his acres.

Jayr, were you the idiot that retalled on a retal last set whinning that it was unfair that i retalled his initial hit which was a DH, and my retal which was within 12 hours(sorry, my mistake... its 24 hours), is late?

after which sending me a msg declaring war, hit me for 500acres, get retalled for 2k acres, Abed me without getting through even once and then drop your land.

were you that idiot? cause if i remember correctly... that idiot's country name was ryaJ or something of that sort.