hello everybody - you're all still here? I haven't been back for 2-3 years, but hopefully qualify as old school these days! :)

Got bored of WoW and Game of Thrones Ascent - the old games keep calling me back!

Svejk
TSE Forever

there is no TSE :-P

lol - this should be fun, but not for very long :-P

GO BSNAKE!!!!!

The Sith Empire TSExCC
Countries: 67
ANW: $53,378,502
TNW: $3,576,359,606

I should also add trainboy to the list of members - we were delighted to have him on board for the last week or so, and he certainly helped to secure that #2 spot in TNW - thanks chap!

there will be no recruitment for TSE this set, or in the foreseeable future :-P

that is all!

lol - well I didn't see THAT coming! And we already had #1 in ANW raz (a tag has to have >9 countries) - but yeah, what Donny said :-P

All in all a very satisfying comeback set for TSE:

#1 ANW
#2 TNW, and only
#6 in Members

Too bad we aren't back for another reset, but raz, kemo, OGT it was a blast.

signing off

Svejk

and those would be countries, NOT country's :-P

do you mean LaE? :-P

I would disagree with those who claim that self-farming isn't harming anyone - I think it harms the playability of the game (for everybody), and in the long term it will not do the game any good, will not attract new players, and to that extent it is harmful.

Additional to that - it destroys one of the most interactive and fun aspects of the game, namely FA and diplomacy. If everybody self-farmed, nobody would war, and the game would die very quickly (either that or it just becomes a competition to see who can farm themselves best)

When I think back to the past on E2025 FFA, the following were the "unwritten" rules (although many will tell you they did get bent):

1) Self-farming was frowned upon, and I certainly never recall seeing the news dominated by Clan A constantly hitting Clan A.

2) Land was much easier to come by because there were roughly 10 times the # of countries that there are in EE FFA.

So we have something of a conundrum, in that - we want to attract more players to the game, that gives more ad impressions and that income helps the Admin team to pay for more capacity, it's a self-fulfilling circle.

BUT

all the self-farming and the absolute dominance of one clan makes it hard for new players to achieve, unless they join that particular clan

(although I accept that's no longer the case in terms of countries after so many deletions - but LaE still have about 40% of the TNW for the entire server)

Some people have suggested limiting the # of players allowed under one tag, but that would be pointless - large clans would simply run multiple tags. so - what can we do?

I think that stopping self-farming would certainly help to curtail dominance by any one clan - to an extent (and that might be any clan, not just LaE). Those larger clans would then be forced to find alternative targets, leading to more FA, diplomacy and war, which is almost certainly good for the game.

One possibility by banning self-farming is that big clans set up sub-tags and start farming those as well, and no doubt they would have FDPs with their sub-clans, so it may not work, but that's my reasoning for banning it anyway.

I'm sure I am regurgitating what others have already said anyway, but it's right that we have a discussion about it I think.

Anyhoo - for me it's a moot point because I won't be playing next set, so what do others think?

"adds", not "add's"

TSE only had 3 pacts this set (one of those was only a DNH), and for most of the grabbing phase potential targets were at war, so we were restricted to a small number of 1-player clans and untaggeds, many of which were not particularly fat.

The alternatives were pretty much to self-farm or to farm smaller tags into the ground, and neither of those are good for the growth of this game.

I've never done it and don't think it really shows any skill at the game. I can completely see why people do it here where targets are so few - hopefully if the game attracts more players (and clans) then we'll start to see it die out.

My countries are so land-thin if they turned sideways you wouldn't see them :-P

..../farms NOW3P :-P

common sense prevailed - great news!

good luck to New LaE - glad to hear that you are turning the ship around. I'm sure all of FFA (and other servers) will watch with interest.

that's correct trainboy - but welcome back and I hope you find a good home. You could try Dynasty, PANLV, or SOTA, and I think there are a couple of people returning next set to net (Dragon/ESD, Walding).

300 countries out of 3000 can sure as hell control the market for food, oil and tech very easily. I think if I was running this game I would be inclined to delete the entire tag and then ensure they cleaned up their act next reset. Clearly genuine players would be affected, but ultimately it's only a game and that's the only way it will clean up the set.

When I think about it, many other netters have probably benefited from that market manipulation (myself included) because my tech has sold when the market is bought out too, so in effect you could say this set is pretty much null and void now, whatever the final outcome.

mine is etched in my head - no matter how hard I try I can't forget it, and I blame "old" FFA :-P

wow...just wow

wasabi? You're not online right now - added you.

I can confirm was Waseem and ICe said.

/waves @ Dragon (if it is Dragon) :-P

ahhhh - I miss the Jiminator. I needs new screensavers, and he was the "go to" guy for advice :-\

hey - you pushed me back out of top 10 - how about a little Slavic support for your Cesky brethren? :-P

almost certainly that would have been Peki - it was always his baby, unless he left it in someone else's hands and they shut it down.

:-P

Peki get my vote too

the at archive site is awesome! It doesn't go back all that far though :-\

3212 has a nice ring to it

lol

bored razzy?

wonder where Pepperoni, Amazone, NightHawk, Bopper, Prez, Tammy, Father (of the Year) and Potomac all are...

Peki has not been responding to emails so I suppose he just isn't interested. SithBall wasn't interested but had a good chat to him the other week. SithBob started the set but left his countries in protection unfortunately. Sir Mao - would be good to see him back.

Thunder: thanks - sorry I've just got back from vacation last night so I missed the other thread.

TwizTid: my country didn't even get an in-game msg to explain or apologise. I understand it was almost certainly an accident, but common courtesy should mean we don't need to chase it up. You were not online earlier when I posted this thread.

yeah it's cool - makes it easy for dumbasses like me to correct my initial errors :-P

sorry Havoc - yes I did mean NBK :-P I assume it was a war error.

not with it today - doh!

wtfluff are you guys doing? Please contact me.

raz has been trying to do the honourable thing all set - as he said targets are scarce, and he has resorted to mostly self-farming to gain acreage. 1 hit to me seems legit - it's not like he double or triple-tapped you. I've been struggling to find targets and only making the odd LG here and there.

Despie - sorry that your country was bottomfed. AFAIK raz has squared this with you now.

I'm on (RL) vacation right now so I put my countries in vacation after 3 days trying to play on my iphone (man that was tiresome). Ping me on Friday when I get home and I'm sure we can sort something out if you still need to talk.

as far as I know he'#s only playing every 2 days ICe

Q. How many dopeheads does it take to change a light bulb?

A. Two, one to hold the lightbulb very, very, very, very still, the other one to smoke until the room spins around.

jeez - if you're not fat enough then how fat do we need to be?!

dang - why am I still a Noob Member?!

I'll put the kettle on Despie :P

I know I'm not gonna stay #1 for long, I ain't fat enough. You can consider me the pacemaker for the others :)

burble

new member, schmoo member

yeah dammit - that was MY thread on old forums :(

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