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Sep 27th 2019, 21:02:37

Originally posted by Raging Budda:
I don't think this has ever happened before....or maybe once...


XD

I think SoF is actually the alliance SOL fought the most in 20 yrs of history.
IX comes in second I think

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Sep 20th 2019, 11:15:05

Makinso Sex God

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Sep 20th 2019, 11:14:17

Meh it's our aliens.

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Sep 9th 2019, 21:10:10

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Aug 27th 2019, 20:17:59

Was about to ask about that leg. Took me zooming in to see iT was under your other leg lol. At first glance i thought the NSFW pic would be the two Halves of your leg LOL!!

Glad you’re okay though!

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Aug 25th 2019, 10:29:43

Originally posted by Boltar:
Sol's site still does that. They have a way to take it off tho.


All auto uploads now but yeah we can still set update requirement

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Aug 25th 2019, 9:59:57

Kiss me

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Aug 21st 2019, 11:18:00

Originally posted by martian:
don't forget WULFBAM!

Not gonna comment on the list but I will say that playing the game as an alliance leader/political negotiation level was a whole different experience than simply running a tag internally or playing a country.

Several of us (myself included) had opportunities to really FUBAR alliance server though politics but for the most part none of us went that far:P

Who you rank/credit is going to depend on which tag you played for and which "side" you were one at any given time more than anything because it impacted who you interacted with. That and alliance leaders that liked to post losts to AT (no idea who they may be :P )

Also what is the basis for your ranking? War victories? Server impact? Netting? Whoever ran NM (i forget) should rank high up there for keeping the tag out of trouble (mostly) and netting quietly for a long time.

One day I will read through my earth logs which I have somewhere for a good laugh:P

You me them everybody.

FA was the most fun 2002-2011 or 12 at best. After that it was all teaparties

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Aug 19th 2019, 15:34:41

Originally posted by Servant:
Maki....


After all we have been through together, this is how you Your people treat me?????


Could just shoot me a msg instead of dramatizing iT I did you tbr favor of messaging but we could also be asses about it XD

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Aug 19th 2019, 9:51:39

We Made a booboo

Forum msg Will do

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Aug 15th 2019, 11:56:59

That damned DaBears knocked me off number one in the last day :-) damn reseller!

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Aug 10th 2019, 16:57:42

Originally posted by Gerdler:
What is not insignificant, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths:

• 22,938 (76%) are by suicide which can't be prevented by gun laws (3)

• 987 (3%) are by law enforcement, thus not relevant to Gun Control discussion. (4)

• 489 (2%) are accidental (5)

So no, "gun violence" isn't 30,000 annually, but rather 5,577... 0.0017% of the population.

By what weird logic are gun related suicides not directly tied to the abundance of firearms?

Same thing with law enforcement, how often would they have to use lethal force if firearms were not as abundant?

Do I actually have to say anything about the accidental deaths lol? It goes without saying that they are almost directly proportional to the number of firearms in circulation.

That said its still a low number. So why are you attacking the gaming industry?



There is a ton of research into if violent games promote agressive or violent behavior in teens/adolescents. Ive written a review about those studies long ago. If memory serves me right: i reviewed 11 studies of which 9 concluded aggresive or violent behavior correlated with violent gaming, HOWEVER:

These exact same studies pointed out that all subjects showing violent and/or agressive behavior also had many other factors correlating. Like psychological pathology (anywhere from depressions to very heavy personality disorders), low social and or economic status, broken or divorced family problems, being victim of neglect or abuse, receiving mental healthcare, academic problems and being raised by parents with an authority based parenting style instead of an autoritative based parenting style.

So base conclusion was gaming can promote agressive behavior but only if other factors pre-exist in a subject.
Researcher stressed the risks of gaming addiction more, as their “healthy” test subjects actually had the same rate of addiction based problems as their “unhealthy” subjects.

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Aug 9th 2019, 11:59:30

One of the funniest memories I have is Rage doing a NINJA vanish to escape a losing coalition war (think it was SLIT?)

They got killed for it. But it was a hilarious action.

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Aug 8th 2019, 22:18:06

Another problem that can solved with a simple solution.

More players.

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Aug 8th 2019, 22:16:51

At least the later part of that time period.

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Aug 8th 2019, 22:16:37

Originally posted by Servant:
There's some old timer's on it, The majority of the remainder of the list is old timers...

I'm just really weak from 2003-2009, for example I know TIE had a dominant run then, and I don't know who that leader was.


of people I can think of from 2009 onward, Son Goku/Xyle/Makinso are the only ones that are worth consideration.

Everyone else (including me) doesn't really come close.
Pre 2003 I"m good:) But I do appreciate any names being brought up,
2003-2009 Is the era I know least of.


That was mostly set with Peki Mao and Ant I think.

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Aug 1st 2019, 22:54:14

Its hilarious how Derrick tries to troll at every occasion XD

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Jul 29th 2019, 7:29:49

Originally posted by jcatron:
NA - all around hard to beat what we had in the glory days of NA.

CC - best at warring.

ICD - best modern netters.

HS - We were the best at...restarting.


lol at HS

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Jul 29th 2019, 7:24:18

Gimme my oil. I only have 1,3b i feel deprived

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Jul 22nd 2019, 21:04:12

Oh and let's not forget MakDuque! Was a great burger and person!

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Jul 22nd 2019, 21:01:04

Originally posted by DerrickICN:
Originally posted by Boltar:
u realize when u called ur self #2 derrick, u just called urself fluff... take a shower man!

Makinso called himself Duque for years. Maybe we are all just pieces of fluff. Lol

I'm not showering until i get a cf. You can deal with the smell.
\

How the fluff did the two of us get involved in this bullfluff thread ? LOL

You got the incentive really really wrong there buddy. I never called myself Duque. People assumed I was Duque and vice versa. We played that game along for a while.

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Jul 20th 2019, 14:52:16

Originally posted by KoHeartsGPA:
He said God is mean and will murder you after you die....



There we go.

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Jul 20th 2019, 14:24:36

uh what?

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Jul 20th 2019, 14:05:10

Regarding #811.

SoF and SOL actually do have policies for this stuff. If this turns out a SoF or SOL member. He will be booted and killed by us.
At this point no userlists show this country as a SoF/SOL member.

If it does manage to tag or show up in our userlists it will be killed and banned.

Inquiries about this can be made through private channels. We will not do FR work in public, we've never have.


Have a good day.

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Jul 20th 2019, 13:24:44

Originally posted by DerrickICN:
Seriously.

Making elders look like choir boys. fluffin incredible.


Boys that get raped by the "religous leaders"they put trust in...... just saying ... might wanna reconsider that comparison haha

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Jul 19th 2019, 23:53:41

Originally posted by Gerdler:
I think it would be better with normal exploring but after say 10 days you can no longer explore and every 6 hours the bottom ranked country in NW and the bottom ranked country in land are both eliminated. something like that.


LoL that sounds like a battle royale game. Let's call the server PUBE --> Player Unknown Battle Earth!

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Jul 19th 2019, 23:51:54

Originally posted by Pang:
Thanks again for all the feedback -- some of the items that require us to code new things aren't things I can action immediately, but I like them a lot!

Here is a quick video of what the main page looks like at the moment (heavy WIP). Need to work on the colours for the headers, too much blue.

https://i.imgur.com/q0aXX7j.gifv

I added an on-market widget based on feedback and all of the items in the main table have icons now. Icons will generally be pervasive throughout the whole experience -- some (like Oil) need some work ;)



That looks pretty good Pang.
Might give this all an actual future! I went from skeptic to less skeptic! Show us more!

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Jul 16th 2019, 22:28:55

@Chevs what purpose will our pc serve?

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Jul 16th 2019, 13:16:36

LOL @2

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Jul 14th 2019, 8:25:34

Had an idea a while ago,

But it takes clan admin settings.
Allow tags to set an alarm status in EE(green yellow red?). Then show the alert status in the main menu.

Not sure how much work it would be

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Jul 10th 2019, 13:20:54

Arrow will never return you can trust me on that one lol.

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Jul 9th 2019, 22:07:52

Meh you guys are mobsters you bribe judges.

Get me the president!


Mr. Trump...... No they are not Iranians...... No sirr they do not have oil in their country...... No nuclear weapons either. We're talking about the mob....... no but they are not a country... Sir? Okay fluff it. *Presses red button for nuclear strike aimed at italian hood in NYC* fluff it then.

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Jul 9th 2019, 9:03:00

Gerdler that's double rhetoric man come on.

So if you found Dragon or vamps whom you, yourself named anti LaF players in LaF under an alias? You would not kick them? You would be happy to talk to them. Despite the odds being 99% they leaked your FS time, strats and everything?

Come on man. Stop BSing around. LaF would go banana's just like SoF has.

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Jul 9th 2019, 7:20:40

read deeper into it young padawan!

Your eyes see they must! Your Brain comprehend it will not!

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Jul 8th 2019, 18:59:18

Originally posted by DerrickICN:
Jayr rage quit.

Buch is my mentor.


fluff I have a new strategy to make people quit! Force them to mentor Derrick!

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Jul 8th 2019, 7:12:38

fluff me 2 already?

You are like TeckMing baby machine!

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Jul 7th 2019, 23:46:20

Gratz RED! Dad Club hurrah!

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Jul 6th 2019, 20:19:01

Far as my history board goes Enshula twice.

Once while Rage tried their "Ninja Vanish".
The other I have no idea wasn't there for it.

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Jul 5th 2019, 20:56:51

Servant was around in that PS tag. I think it's still there.
Thomas retirement.

SS Retirement.
Slagpit no idea

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Jul 5th 2019, 19:21:55

Sadly no helmet.

We do have a rich history database in sol ghq if you wanna take a look just tell me

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Jul 4th 2019, 23:51:00

Originally posted by Gerdler:
Originally posted by Makinso:

Let's put it in perspective and move away from metaphores, because that seems to allow people to not actually react to the factual situation but only react to the metaphor?

Interesting way to build a case, first you say move away from metaphores, then you go straight back to a far-fetched metaphore, as if we should forget that it's your dreamt up scenario that has nothing to do with what we were actually talking about.

Originally posted by Makinso:

Is LaFs now saying that if they are @ war and a random untagged/spamtag country makes harmful attacks into your war. You will not (which has been normal policy for years) ask police to take care of the untagged country and support/promote their actions? And in the same length if a country suicides you and you try to kill it for it, does it justify the suicider hurting more of your netters in a netting set? Because by your proposed rhetoric or concept it should. In that case we should justfiy all suiciders vs laf as of this point?

A country we are hitting will have to be considered free to retaliate should it wish it. LaFs policy has always been that if we are the aggressor on an untagged and if that untagged hits back ONLY on the country that hit it(assuming the retals are fair and not like 40 ABs for a landgrab), we will not spend a single turn helping our member because that member is pulling the rest of us down and should improve his game. It's written in our landgrab policy and has been as long as I been here. The Aggressor is never free from retaliation.

Whatever else you are talking about is just nonsense and has nothing to do with what we are talking about here.

PDM might have been right to hit Karnage, but Karnage certainly has the right to proportionatly retaliate anyone who hits him, as does everyone.
Originally posted by Makinso:

Taking it another step further if another war tag let's say elders helps LaF kill a suicider in a netting set. And the suicider then suicides on elders + LaF 2 - 3 sets in a row. Does it justify that? If so let me know.

You have a problem with the term aggressor:
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/aggressor

Anything else you said has no relevance to this case, this thread or anything else for that matter. Do better.
Originally posted by Makinso:

And what about LaF killing potential suiciders in untags pre-emptivly? We've seen you do it. Does this pre-emptive action justify that suiciders suicide you pre-emptivly?

This has never been done without very good reason, such as pacts to suiciders that already hit us, ops prior, known suiciders country names or finding them in the leaderboards to belong to players who suicided us the set before.
When we spend netting turns of our best and most active netters you better believe it is for a damned good reason.
One mistake comes to mind in the past 2.5 years that I have been here, ONE, and that was not any of our heads leading. And I take great care at reminding the Syko that lead this Kill run that he made a mistake every now and again. :)



Was not really buidling a case just wondering about LaF stance/logic on untags entering the war. As the way you are promoting Sykos behavior towards PDM makes it seem that getting attacked by police justifies him attacking the policing force. <-- You promoting syko's behavior sounds like Syko's first wrong (stepping into a war as an untag/spamtag, being in a tag under a different alias that you dislike, while being affiliated to the tag that's warring against them) seems okay to you Gerdler/LaF?

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Jul 4th 2019, 23:45:41

Originally posted by Pang:
Originally posted by allbymyself87:
Originally posted by Pang:
the biggest change I've had coming back to work on the game in the last year-ish (with a break for a baby :p) has been to focus on doing things that will appeal to people who aren't currently playing the game -- former players and new players who have never played.

this server has always been unique both in terms of the requirements of it's players for the game and the style of interactions that occur. I hope that the changes we're working on will make it a better place for those here now and bring back a lot of the people who left for whatever reason :)


Can roughly let us know when will be the changes released into the game?
SoF vs LaF war managed to get some old players to come back.
Better release some changes soon before they are bored & quit again?
=P


Looking at doing an open beta (or maybe alpha) testing on some of the initial concepts + new mobile interfaces within the next week or two. qz has made some progress with the remaining API endpoints I need for the UI and that was the final blocker for my work. :)

There will still be lots of tweaks, improvements, bug fixes, etc but we can at least put it in players' hands to try out.

I'm hoping to have the majority of the coding done by end of summer and be well into content improvements and such.


Well that sounds interesting for sure.

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Jul 4th 2019, 12:07:07

Originally posted by DerrickICN:
Originally posted by sinistril:
Still not sure why a 6 member netting tag would agree to police a 200 member grudge war

Originally posted by Neil:
One could just stay off AT? The people (derrick and carnage and to a lesser extent marshal) making AT toxic don't have an impact and aren't important in the rest of the game.


It's funny the lenses we see things through. I only joined this war because a SoF member talked fluff (then didn't show up). I'd rather not have played this set as I like a lot of people on the other side. People like primeval, ironx, vamps are all players I'd drop everything to help if they asked me. On the other hand, me and Karnage, as an example, have been enemies for at least a couple years now. The difference is he wasn't on a mission to get more enemies. I'm guessing I'm not the only one that came back for that reason.

Karnage is a toxic player when he wants to be, sure, but he clearly has an impact. Laf has shown that if you go low, they'll go lower, in order to protect their ability to net. Karnage is one of the people they call in for that (even if they don't explicitly ask him). He's a decent player and by all accounts and good war chat leader. No impact?

Derrick is a good player and good war chat leader, and he's also well connected. He's well hated, sure. But you can rarely have a war on alliance without people joining a side either for or against Derrick. No impact?

Not good to come back after what? 10 years? And then immediately underestimate your enemies because you spend too much time on AT. Both of these players are impact players for good or bad and whether you like or dislike them.

Technically we only joined this war because sol fsed us and somehow we managed to kill the fluff talker anyways too. It all seemed silly to me because i have so many friends over there too. And for what its worth i see some people come back i frown on. Old colors on both sides that made my stomach churn just thinking about what could be done to win if this gets any grosser. Maybe in that way cuban is correct. And i hope the shenanigans like that never ever come back.

From where i stand, someone talked trash on us, we talked it back, and then they called in allies to hit us seemingly just because i run my mouth, and got their asses handed to them for it. It all just seemed really naive (including the decision for pdm to police. Full on rookie hour) and the war was over before it ever began this set.

If you want to know how i really feel? I dont feel like farming my friends for the next 40 days because they play with rookie level BS. That's not a good feeling at all.



I don't hate Derrick or Elders,

It was an oppurtunity to equal out numbers to something already happening. Nothing more. I take jabs at Derrick he takes Jabs at me. I can't say I hate him though. We disagree a LOT that's definitely true.

As for war breeding dislike and hate. I honestly believe 10 years ago that stuff went MUCH MUCH further and deeper. But with more people in this game, that hate went invisibile much easier. Leading SOL at 160 - 170 players getting into a 1K vs 1K war with the allies of my enemy hating my guts. I wouldn't see or feel any of it. 1) was to busy leading chats 2) so many players internally and politically involved you only receive like 10% of all the info of which mabye 0.5% was hateful info.

Now hatred will not go invisible due to the small community. It just always slaps you right in the face. Actively playing means it's much harder to avoid it.

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Jul 4th 2019, 12:00:34

Originally posted by Requiem:
Derrick quit trying to be rational it’s weird AF.


It scared me.

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Jul 4th 2019, 11:58:48

Originally posted by Gerdler:
If Karnage was the aggressor I would totally condemn his actions towards PDM. But he has been told by a tag he will be killed and recieved numerous attacks from them before he RETALIATED, he has also given them an out. I think thats the right thing to do as well.
Originally posted by H4xOr WaNgEr:
I don't get it. Karnage is supposed to just sit back and let PDM kill him because that is what is "right" ?

Makinso makes the comparison to murder and judgement. But what is the law exactly in this game? Who gets to be judge?

SoF or SOL or PDM get to decide that Karnage's country must die, and he has to accept that judgement and take it without a fight? How have perceptions twisted to the point where that makes any sense to you people? He is the arbiter of his country, not any of you. You don't get to decide how he runs his turns.



Let's put it in perspective and move away from metaphores, because that seems to allow people to not actually react to the factual situation but only react to the metaphor? Syko was in SoFs tag under an alias, presumably spying. Got caught, got out. Started attacking an alliance (SoF) that has been @ war with other tags as an untag/spam tag. According to lafs reactions I assume LaF feels this is the correct way to act. If so please confirm this or tell us otherwise.
Normally this type of behavior would lead to policing action (as it has), which in this case was handled by PDM, props to them, I'm sorry for PDM about the backlash it got, Then again we would do the same for them.

I do not understand why specifically you 2 are defending Syko's actions. This seems more of a it hurts SoF so it's good for us then objective view of what's going on here.

Is LaFs now saying that if they are @ war and a random untagged/spamtag country makes harmful attacks into your war. You will not (which has been normal policy for years) ask police to take care of the untagged country and support/promote their actions? And in the same length if a country suicides you and you try to kill it for it, does it justify the suicider hurting more of your netters in a netting set? Because by your proposed rhetoric or concept it should. In that case we should justfiy all suiciders vs laf as of this point?

Taking it another step further if another war tag let's say elders helps LaF kill a suicider in a netting set. And the suicider then suicides on elders + LaF 2 - 3 sets in a row. Does it justify that? If so let me know.

And what about LaF killing potential suiciders in untags pre-emptivly? We've seen you do it. Does this pre-emptive action justify that suiciders suicide you pre-emptivly?


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Jul 3rd 2019, 10:00:59

Originally posted by Red X:
Originally posted by major:
SLIT wars


They were fun as well


Those were fun, we have a A LOT of history on those wars.

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Jul 2nd 2019, 22:05:39

Looked like crap... LOL not posting it agian.

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Jul 2nd 2019, 22:03:02

Oh and another fun one was the last set in Jolts Earth. I think Dragon and Martian organized for complete and utter chaos and destruction in the server. SoF and SOL basically got to FS or be FSed by everyone and everyone FSed everyone else. We have the total overview of wars listed LOL.

SOL | Message Boards | SOL History Project | Reset 59 May 29th - Aug 3rd '09 : Absolute Chaos!
SOL fights Imag, PDM, LaF, Monsters, IX | Entire server goes to war

TKO<--->SoF

LaF<--->EVO
LaF<--->SoL
LaF<--->PDM

Omega<--->IX

TIE<--->EVO
TIE<--->NA

IX<--->Omega
IX<--->LaF
IX<--->Rage
IX<--->SoF
IX<--->Imagnum
IX<--->MD
IX<--->ZT

LCN<--->NA

Rogue<--->Stones

Rage<--->IX
Rage<--->NA

Evo<--->LaF
Evo<--->Infernal

SoF<--->IX
SoF<--->TKO
SoF<--->Outkast
SoF<--->ICN
SoF<--->PDM

Imag<--->IX
Imag<--->SoL

Monsters<--->SoL

MD<--->IX
MD<--->NA

ZT<--->IX

Outkast<--->SoF

ICN<--->SoF

SoL<--->LaF
SoL<--->IX
SoL<--->Imag
SoL<--->Monsters
SOL<--->USIMP

PDM<--->LaF
PDM<--->SoF

NA<--->Infernal
NA<--->LCN
NA<--->Rage
NA<--->MD


Ill post some of the most silly wardecs right under this:

Edited By: Makinso on Jul 2nd 2019, 22:05:36
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Jul 2nd 2019, 22:00:21

One i'll never forget was the record FS we did on LCN. I think Dragon and myself ran 24 hours straight warchats with only 30 minutes of naptime in between. Was very fun.