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Tertius Game profile

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Jul 20th 2010, 5:24:50

We have an issue with one of your members, if you could post contacts here or message me in the forum, thanks. (no icq unfortunately)

ashe Game profile

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Jul 20th 2010, 16:08:47

sent you a message.

ashe Game profile

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Jul 20th 2010, 16:49:11

Alrightie, you requested a DNH and say Ragnarok is retalling retals and we owe you a lot of land. Your DNH request is denied. Ragnarok did not show up in xRFx's news until you forced us into a defensive stance. Search 'ALL news' on your members and you will see:

Jul 17/10 4:45:33 AM GS Imagination Land (#180) (xRFx) IDrinkYourMilkshake (#28) (Ragnarok) Defence Held

Jul 17/10 4:44:46 AM BR Imagination Land (#180) (xRFx) IDrinkYourMilkshake (#28) (Ragnarok) Defence Held

Jul 16/10 6:42:41 PM CM Imagination Land (#180) (xRFx) IDrinkYourMilkshake (#28) (Ragnarok) 7162 C/231 B

Jul 17/10 9:03:08 AM SS Imagination Land (#180) (xRFx) Warhorse Lands (#84) (Rag3) 261 A (+160 A)

Jul 17/10 10:18:44 PM NM Imagination Land (#180) (xRFx) Top Cat (#82) (Rag2) 417 A

None of those attacks was provoked...and all but 1 are acts of war. Also, your member was hitting all Rag tags so his reward was all Rag tags are now farming xRFx.

Get ICQ... :)

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Jul 20th 2010, 16:56:05

Ah, I think you may be missing out on the first part where Rag 6 striked one of our members to begin with.

2010-07-13 02:48:23 SS IDrinkYourMilkshake (#28) Ragnarok Blablabla (#181) xRFx 12A (31A)
2010-07-13 02:48:23 SS IDrinkYourMilkshake (#28) Ragnarok Blablabla (#181) xRFx 19A (50A)
2010-07-13 02:48:22 SS IDrinkYourMilkshake (#28) Ragnarok Blablabla (#181) xRFx 19A (50A)
2010-07-13 02:48:21 SS IDrinkYourMilkshake (#28) Ragnarok Blablabla (#181) xRFx 24A (64A)
2010-07-13 02:48:20 SS IDrinkYourMilkshake (#28) Ragnarok Blablabla (#181) xRFx 25A (65A)
2010-07-13 02:48:19 SS IDrinkYourMilkshake (#28) Ragnarok Blablabla (#181) xRFx 25A (67A)

Then the next 6 strikes in 36 hours.

2010-07-17 18:36:47 SS Top Cat (#82) Rag2 Imagination Land (#180) xRFx DH
2010-07-17 18:36:22 SS Top Cat (#82) Rag2 Imagination Land (#180) xRFx 64A (131A)

2010-07-19 01:34:41 PS Top Cat (#82) Rag2 Imagination Land (#180) xRFx 107A (229A)
2010-07-19 01:33:09 SS Top Cat (#82) Rag2 Imagination Land (#180) xRFx 92A (197A)
2010-07-19 01:32:54 SS Top Cat (#82) Rag2 Imagination Land (#180) xRFx 95A (201A)
2010-07-19 01:32:29 SS Top Cat (#82) Rag2 Imagination Land (#180) xRFx DH

All of our attacks have been provoked, and 6 attacks is a lot more an act of war than a failed GS/BR from someone new to the game trying to figure out how it works.

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Jul 20th 2010, 17:05:02

Actually GS, CM, NM and BR are all acts of war, whether they are new to the game or not lol

*waves to Ashe*

Edited By: Ruthie on Jul 20th 2010, 17:12:17
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Tertius Game profile

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Jul 20th 2010, 17:19:22

Acts of war in Alliance server, but honestly so is 6 tap, or at least with escalating retals it might as well be. In team/primary/tourny, smaller players do not know the netiquette and often can rely only on special attacks to defend themselves. =/

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Jul 20th 2010, 17:24:03

Enough of us still rely on Alliance etiquette in this server that there isn't much difference. At least, so I've been led to believe, unless someone's holding out on me.
Peloponnese (PEHL-oh-puh-NEES): a mythical land of cheesecake

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Who has time for that? BLAST THEM ALL!

ashe Game profile

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Jul 20th 2010, 17:25:11

Exactly Ruthie.

Tertius, a couple of facts for you to consider also.
1) We allow retals in the form of SS/PS within 72 hrs.
2) All but one of your acts of war was done on 7/17 which is beyond 72hrs and no longer valid retals even if SS/PS. (#28 grabs was on 13th)
3) With 6 grabs, #28 forfeited tag protection and could have been killed with no interferrence from Rag...but as your acts of war was beyond 72 hrs and he didn't multi tap again, he retained tag protection.

4) The multi grabs by Top Cat #82 was on the 19th. xRFx was placed on farm status because of the special attacks on the 17th.
5) Just because you are on farm status does not mean you can't retal. If you can retal, it's your right to do so.

Tertius Game profile

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Jul 20th 2010, 17:27:51

RD isn't quite on the same Alliance policy as most =P

Plus, how are non-alliance players supposed to learn? When I send a retal, I'll send a message, but for farm tags, no one tells them what is or isn't acceptable and the big guys multi-tap everyone into oblivion until they quit anyways.

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Jul 20th 2010, 17:38:16

Okay, well I'll tell my guys no more special attacks, but this also happened today:

2010-07-20 03:01:28 SS IDrinkYourMilkshake (#28) Ragnarok Blablabla (#181) xRFx 36A (93A)
2010-07-20 03:01:26 SS IDrinkYourMilkshake (#28) Ragnarok Blablabla (#181) xRFx 45A (118A)
2010-07-20 03:01:13 SS IDrinkYourMilkshake (#28) Ragnarok Blablabla (#181) xRFx 47A (120A)
2010-07-20 03:01:09 SS IDrinkYourMilkshake (#28) Ragnarok Blablabla (#181) xRFx 48A (122A)

So there may be some retals headed your way. Thanks for the discussion.

ashe Game profile

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Jul 20th 2010, 17:44:01

RD? What have those meanies done now that you would bring them up in a thread where you have issues with Rag??
Poor Mr Lemon and Mr Lime....always on someone's mind. LMAO.

Well, Tertius, I hope we are helping you learn your new players about proper use of special attacks. It was our intentions to learn them to quit the usuage of BR, GS, AB, nukes, and chems. There will be no charge for our services this time.

ashe Game profile

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Jul 20th 2010, 17:48:50

Why yes of course. I suppose your tag will continue to be grabbed like that since it's on farm status. Feel free to retal using SS/PS. And we're not retalling your retals....we are...farming.

Ivan Game profile

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Jul 20th 2010, 18:50:27


Dont get your tag into unnecesary troubles Ashe, his tag isnt the only tag your noob members has hit and maybe they dont quietly want to sit and watch you getting silly about things instead of resolving them in peace

their hits on you can hardly be called an act of war, your hits on them is a lot worse then an obvious act from newbies and you've played the game long enough to know this

If I recall right you tried to play this game once before, and that time it didnt end well for Ragnarok

ashe Game profile

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Jul 20th 2010, 22:08:47

And you speak for what tag Ivan? Or what country??? Since you seem to like recalling then ya can probably recall that threats has caused a lot of wars. :)




Slagpit Game profile

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Jul 20th 2010, 22:50:18

Hm, maybe it's time for the ONtheRAG tag to return. How many did we kill last time, 12?

Dragonlance Game profile

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Jul 21st 2010, 3:03:37

lol farming a country 6 tap for 30 acres a hit?

if i was RF i'd kill #28 just for stupidity.

And #82 for kicks.

BlackMamba Game profile

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Jul 21st 2010, 3:32:55

Poor slagpit, running SKA out of existence and now crying.

Unfortunately for you, there is no Mademen or COTEX to break UNAPs and blindside us this time around.

Edited By: BlackMamba on Jul 21st 2010, 3:37:37
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Slagpit Game profile

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Jul 21st 2010, 5:01:03

When did SKA get run out of the game? Give me the details.

ashe Game profile

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Jul 21st 2010, 12:18:10

Dragonlance....you do play team server don't ya? Why don't ya pretend you're RF and give it go? :)

Slagpit... Ain't seen you in a Rag thread in a while.....so do us both a favor and continue to stay the hell out of them. 12 my ass...not even if you counted by 2's and added 7.

Slagpit Game profile

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Jul 21st 2010, 18:43:44

When are you guys going to learn that I don't have to resort to lies to make my point? I haven't played team in a while, but could always come back to tagkill rag again. It's not like it's hard.

2010-04-23 02:50:01 SS moo (#261) ONtheRAG IDrinkYourMilkshake (#266) Ragnarok 10A (10A)
2010-04-09 03:24:38 GS (#170) ONtheRAG Guess Its Commi Indy Time (#224) Ragnarok 2C 0 F
2010-04-11 00:38:18 BR (#170) ONtheRAG hummmbug (#195) Ragnarok 37B 4 C
2010-04-13 02:27:32 BR (#170) ONtheRAG the psychotic chicken (#237) Rag 36B 8 C
2010-04-14 18:35:40 GS (#170) ONtheRAG the drunken monkeys (#250) Rag 4C 14 F
2010-04-17 23:14:43 BR (#170) ONtheRAG trainbaba2 (#243) Ragnarok 2B 5 C
2010-04-21 00:04:53 BR (#170) ONtheRAG IDrinkYourMilkshake (#157) Ragnarok 2B 3 C
2010-04-27 01:25:51 BR (#170) ONtheRAG trainbaba3 (#265) Ragnarok 6B 7 C
2010-04-27 05:29:45 BR (#170) ONtheRAG Yipket (#34) Ragnarok 1B 7 C
2010-05-03 23:59:26 SS (#170) ONtheRAG the psychotic chicken (#289) Rag 9A (10A)
2010-04-09 14:00:37 SS alabama kush (#122) ONtheRAG trainbaba (#232) Ragnarok 3A (10A)
2010-04-07 00:04:00 SS alabama kush (#122) james grizzly (#4) Ragnarok 6A (10A)
2010-05-03 00:06:52 GS ahhhhhhhhhh (#246) ONtheRAG trainbaba4 (#282) Ragnarok 2C 2 F

ZEN Game profile

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Jul 21st 2010, 19:01:35

We in FBI back Dragonlances' words.

We also back Ashe's words.

If this gets provoked into war between the two tags (tags that are not in discussion ATM). FBI will commence killing each other.

Tittius - A/S/L?

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Detmer Game profile

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Jul 21st 2010, 19:09:49

Fact

BlackMamba Game profile

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Jul 21st 2010, 22:57:54

I should have figured that Slagpit was one of the ringleaders behind suicide efforts and killing the Ragnarok restarts. You just result to suiciding when you can't win like when you suicided on aponic's country in primary when he outplayed you.

You didn't run Ska into the ground Slagpit? You managed to convince cotex and Mademen to break their unaps to hit us one set, but at the end of the day, SKA tag no longer exists in the original tag. Neither do your associated friend tags in cotex and Mademen.

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Jul 21st 2010, 23:48:31

Why do you guys keep trying to lie? You can't lie when the facts are right there. Do you really think that low country numbers like #4 and #34 belonged to restarts? We tagged up and warred you. And won. With two (eventually three) countries.

The set your tag finished with 2*4717 NW, SKA had members finish in first and third place. After that everyone got bored and did other things. Whenever we play, we aim for high finishes. We don't exist to play set after set and try to bully other tags like rag does.

I can't believe that none of you guys have changed in the months since I've played this server. Just let it go already.

Dragonlance Game profile

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Jul 22nd 2010, 0:30:22

because i'm wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too lazy.

BlackMamba Game profile

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Jul 22nd 2010, 2:33:48

Do you really think country names like trainbaba2, trainbaba3 and trainbaba4 are not restarts and from a bunch of different people? I guess I overestimated your intelligence.

I was guessing all along that the suiciders that came the following reset with associated with Mademen / Cotex and SKA when anonymous countries ABed us and MKR and I guess after denying it you finally slipped up and admitted to it.

It just goes to prove that our decision to hit those guys later on was correct after all.

Edited By: BlackMamba on Jul 22nd 2010, 2:37:53
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Jul 22nd 2010, 5:30:54

It's a team server. I know that you like to put multiple tags together and bully other tags so you probably don't get what that means. There can only be five countries in a tag. When you kill all of the original countries in a tag, you then have to kill the restarts.

If all you can do is throw around labels and make up conspiracy theories, there's really no reason for me to post here. The next time you get tagkilled by people you don't know, just assume that I was behind it. At the very least, I'll certainly be cheering them on.

Chewi Game profile

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Jul 22nd 2010, 6:58:27

The OOP hitting really worked better than it should have.

Lord Tarnava Game profile

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Jul 22nd 2010, 18:44:07

Rag is just finally enjoying the fact that they have some power.. by having 15 members in a 5 member limit server.. and they push around the weight they never had before.

The problem is they are unreasonable and ego tripping. It's going to push people like myself, Slagpit etc to actually care and start countries and demolish Rag.

Ruthie

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Jul 22nd 2010, 21:38:54

lol ... Ashe is way better at getting Rag into conflict than I ever was!
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ashe Game profile

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Jul 23rd 2010, 1:59:57

It's not a 5 member limit server....it's a 5 members per tag server. :)

BlackMamba Game profile

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Jul 23rd 2010, 4:53:11

Originally posted by Lord Tarnava:
Rag is just finally enjoying the fact that they have some power.. by having 15 members in a 5 member limit server.. and they push around the weight they never had before.

The problem is they are unreasonable and ego tripping. It's going to push people like myself, Slagpit etc to actually care and start countries and demolish Rag.



power tripping, from the guy who claimed he was going farm MKR out of existence, lol

We only have unreasonable policies when it comes to the pact breakers who sign UNAPs just so they can blindside us later on.

BlackMamba Game profile

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Jul 23rd 2010, 5:19:16

Originally posted by Slagpit:
It's a team server. I know that you like to put multiple tags together and bully other tags so you probably don't get what that means. There can only be five countries in a tag. When you kill all of the original countries in a tag, you then have to kill the restarts.

If all you can do is throw around labels and make up conspiracy theories, there's really no reason for me to post here. The next time you get tagkilled by people you don't know, just assume that I was behind it. At the very least, I'll certainly be cheering them on.


Slagpit - stop pretending that you care about people other than yourself.

You are the biggest hypocrite on these forums. Here's something you recently posted on alliance forum:
"Slagpit
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There's been a decent amount of talk lately blaming LaF for the decline of the alliance server. The principal reason is usually something about "overfarming". Why is this not the natural order of things? If a country is an untagged, it has deliberately put itself in the weakest position possible on this server. If an alliance is small, it needs to work hard to avoid becoming prey to the larger alliances. Small tags need to make up for their difference in numbers with well run countries, diplomatic skills, and allies."

http://forums.earthempires.com/...y-that-laf-ruins-the-game


The truth of the matter is your full of fluff. You claim to care about the actions of Rag but it's only because were in a conflict with you.

When your fellow allies Mademen farmed people, you never posted about it or complained about it. On the Alliance server, you make make a post about how you believe it's the natural order of things for untags and small alliances to be farmed into oblivion by LaF.

You take one side when it suits and do a 180 and make a different claim when it doesn't. But the truth is there, straight out of your mouth from a thread on these very forums.

Lord Tarnava Game profile

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Jul 23rd 2010, 5:55:16

I farmed MKR pretty hard for a couple of sets.. until our attention turned on Rag. Then I killed and farmed Rag.

My boredom at how pathetic you guys are was your saviour, now your unfounded arrogance and confidence might be enough to get myself and others re-motivated

Slagpit Game profile

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Jul 23rd 2010, 6:31:49

The difference between alliance and team is that team has a tag limit. Not surprisingly you failed to grasp that point.

Team server: assemble the best five players you can.
Alliance server: do whatever it takes to survive.

There's a game mechanic that you're bypassing with your Rag1/2/3/4 nonsense. Don't play dumb.

Chewi Game profile

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Jul 23rd 2010, 6:51:38

I don't recall more than just a handful of of Mademen or COTEX people in the warchats. Most was SKA and a few randoms, so why the hard on for Mademen?

Ivan Game profile

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Jul 23rd 2010, 10:51:34


Actually Blackmamba, this might be one of the few times me and slagpit agrees on something so id take that as a hint if anything heh

ZEN Game profile

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Jul 23rd 2010, 14:28:07

Originally posted by Slagpit:
The difference between alliance and team is that team has a tag limit. Not surprisingly you failed to grasp that point.

Team server: assemble the best five players you can.
Alliance server: do whatever it takes to survive.

There's a game mechanic that you're bypassing with your Rag1/2/3/4 nonsense. Don't play dumb.


We at FBI would have to actually have 8 tags if it was "assemble the best five players you can" because we are all worth 5 players a piece. Especially if we talk about "unit" size and brain power/comprehension.

Plus we slept with everyone's mothers.

These are just facts here people. Not meant to hurt anyone's feelings.

Thanks,

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Tertius Game profile

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Jul 27th 2010, 3:24:15

Well that was lame. You said we could perform retals, so we did. Your player logs in to see he has lost 3x the land he gained from us and then goes nuts and starts ABing.

According to what you told me, he thus loses tag status. When we AB him to the ground for his acts of war, 5 Rag players from 3 tags all with NW 5x larger than us start the kill runs. Way to cheapen the game. A legit group of small players using retals according to YOUR rules then gets tag killed for being successful.

What is the point of team server if it is just going to be bully alliances vs 3 players anyways? If I wanted that, I would have joined a small group on alliance server. What a joke.

[This is a few days late, but logging into the forum was giving me sql errors for the last week or so.]