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Havoc

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Sep 4th 2011, 19:00:28

If random grabs are a killable offense.. what does that make two-stepping?

Sep 04/11 8:32:29 AM PS Z Monk (#51) (LaEdMonk) CRNA GORA (#1) (WoT) 1201 A (+757 A)
Sep 04/11 7:46:28 AM PS CRNA GORA (#1) (WoT) Z Monk (#51) (LaEdMonk) 1580 A (+721 A)
Sep 04/11 6:08:24 AM PS Anal Beads Are Fun (#6) (WoS) CRNA GORA (#1) (WoT) 1025 A (+811 A)
Sep 03/11 1:11:56 AM PS CRNA GORA (#1) (WoT) Z Monk (#51) (LaEdMonk) 1262 A (+577 A)

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Sep 4th 2011, 19:10:27

dun dun dun and the drama continues :P

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Bigwiggle

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Sep 4th 2011, 19:58:47

Two stepping and then reverse two stepping .. that's dirty stuff. You're making the canadian angry

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Pain

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Sep 4th 2011, 20:03:53

there was no 2 stepping. the grab by WoS was 29 hours after the hit on monks.

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dLpLow

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Sep 4th 2011, 20:13:27

hi pain :P

Havoc

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Sep 4th 2011, 20:15:50

Isn't the '2-step' window typically equal to the retal window..? Someone from their own 'team' hit them within our retal window before our retal was taken, that's a two-step by FFA standards at least.

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Pain

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Sep 4th 2011, 20:20:13

after checking the boards it was actually a retal as per out Insult:Langrab retal policy. apparently #1 called #6 a fluffhead and instead of taking the standard 4:1 our FA negotiated 1:1 retals.

our FA is a fair person.

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Walding

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Sep 4th 2011, 20:26:36

So what should he call if other the fluffhead? When your a fluffhead your a fluffhead and your tags are full of fluffheads.

Pain

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Sep 4th 2011, 20:27:40

well most of our tags have fluffheads in them. a few of them have vaginas but mostly fluffheads.

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NOW3P

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Sep 4th 2011, 21:02:01

my tag has fluffheads AND vaginas...it's a veritable orgy of genitalia

2 stepping as I remember it is 24 hrs, but I'm no FA so don't take my word for it. Also, #6 is tagged WoS, #1 is tagged WoT - so it was not an intra-tag hit - #6 grabbed #1.

#6 is a fluffhead for the record, though...as is #1 :-P

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Lord Slayer

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Sep 4th 2011, 21:35:49

I know I saw something about this on our boars, but can't find it.

Anyway, for the most part, I alwasy figured 2 stepping happens in the first 10 hours. Usually it's done within the hour(really within a couple minutes) if it's a true two step. Plus, on the first hit, you got all but 62 acres back(which you more then claimed in Ghost acres)

anyway, this FA on TT is fun.

I do see that the guy nails you twice within 36 hours. You should get 1:1 first hit, 2:1 second hit, thus you took 1 retal, and have 2 retals available. Unless you'd rather take the land:land, at which would be 1 PS and 1 SS that should easily get you your land back.

WHich is better for you?

Havoc

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Sep 5th 2011, 16:26:09

Told him he could take another if he wants.

Originally posted by NOW3P:

Also, #6 is tagged WoS, #1 is tagged WoT - so it was not an intra-tag hit - #6 grabbed #1.

That's strictly what's wrong with this server.. it's wrong for other people to grab your separate tags cause they're all part of teh same 'collective', yet it's fine for you guys to grab each other cause they're 'different tags'.. even after grabbing outside your tag.

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NOW3P

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Sep 5th 2011, 19:39:48

Nobody said it was OK - retals will be had. We also don't cross over on retals - if you grab WoT, you will be retalled by WoT....if you grab WoS, you will be retalled by WoS....etc, etc, etc.

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Pain

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Sep 5th 2011, 23:09:07

Originally posted by Havoc:

Told him he could take another if he wants.

Originally posted by NOW3P:

Also, #6 is tagged WoS, #1 is tagged WoT - so it was not an intra-tag hit - #6 grabbed #1.

havoc i dont remember anyone saying you couldnt grab any of our tags, but when your member uses one of ours as his personal land farms because they cant retal him, thats when you have an issue from the "collective".

i still love you havocado.

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Havoc

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Sep 6th 2011, 14:20:20

<3

you guys should rename to THE BORG

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NOW3P

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Sep 6th 2011, 19:23:15

Assimilate fluffes!

wait....can borg drink? Cuz if the answer's no, I'm so not good with that idea...

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trumper

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Sep 6th 2011, 20:27:19

Originally posted by Havoc:

Told him he could take another if he wants.

Originally posted by NOW3P:

Also, #6 is tagged WoS, #1 is tagged WoT - so it was not an intra-tag hit - #6 grabbed #1.

So how did the 188 figure into your two-stepping accusations?

SuperFly

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Sep 6th 2011, 21:50:52

guilty by association??

NOW3P

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Sep 6th 2011, 22:27:59

WoG/FBI's tags are fluffing confusing this set - can we please not ever do this again?

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W

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Sep 7th 2011, 0:43:50

it's more fun for FA's this way

[9:22pm] xHx: on a fluff ton of tech
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[9:22pm] Within[SnG]: what?? fluff this
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trumper

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Sep 7th 2011, 13:26:08

Originally posted by NOW3P:

WoG/FBI's tags are fluffing confusing this set - can we please not ever do this again?

Agreeing with you on this one. I wanted our tags to be 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 etc.

trumper

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Sep 7th 2011, 13:28:55

Originally posted by trumper:

Originally posted by Havoc:

Told him he could take another if he wants.

Originally posted by NOW3P:

Also, #6 is tagged WoS, #1 is tagged WoT - so it was not an intra-tag hit - #6 grabbed #1.

So how did the 188 figure into your two-stepping accusations?

Either way, looks like the 'cracy got 1500 acres (including ghost) and then had 5k taken off in retals, ouch.

Havoc

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Sep 7th 2011, 15:53:54

Yeah after they demo'd me down to be able to break. WTF, you guys piss me off more every day.

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trumper

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Sep 7th 2011, 17:28:00

Originally posted by Havoc:

Yeah after they demo'd me down to be able to break. WTF, you guys piss me off more every day.

Who demoed you down? Surely not the last hit.

Havoc

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Sep 7th 2011, 19:24:35

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SuperFly

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Sep 7th 2011, 21:07:07

Havoc, #6 did not demo you. it was another of his teammates with bigger spal.

However, I vote you kill #6 for retaling your land grab and I invite you to hit the xchoasx tag next, as I want to take some land+ghost in retals :)

thx

Havoc

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Sep 7th 2011, 22:05:59

Hah that's still bullfluff. Harmful spyops = an act of war.

And their lucky I couldn't get online to play for 40 hours and get my turrets up:(

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Bigwiggle

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Sep 7th 2011, 22:40:51

Originally posted by SuperFly:

The kill wouldn't be for retal'ing a LG, probably more for the harmful spy ops. If nobody in a clan can break a grabbing country then props to the grabbing country. You don't demo them down.

Not that anything is being killed. We're peaceful monks mostly.

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Pain

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Sep 7th 2011, 23:55:33

bottom feeding a tag is just as dirty as someone demoing you down to take a retal. demos arent even a harmful spy op anyways it doesnt hurt you at all.

also i take it the guy failed some of the demos if youre positive that it was the retaller. otherwise you are just speculating.

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Angryjesus

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Sep 8th 2011, 1:46:02

Originally posted by Pain:

I agree pain, they are equally bad. However if we demo'ed one of your countries 20 times and you farmed one of our tags, what do you think the outcome would be?

synoder

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Sep 8th 2011, 2:27:17

if someone demoed me 20 times i would laugh that they wasted 14 turns ;)

Lord Slayer

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Sep 8th 2011, 2:29:29

Originally posted by Angryjesus:

Originally posted by Pain:

I agree pain, they are equally bad. However if we demo'ed one of your countries 20 times and you farmed one of our tags, what do you think the outcome would be?

Depends on who you talk to. Most people know to talk to me to get the most fair thing, as I keep these guys as fair, and calm as can be.

It would be in my opinion a case by case scenario. If someone is taking advantage of a tag, by bottomfeeding, demo's are a decent solution to make the retal, or to LG to prove a point, rather then other, more deadly option.

Quick question, when you farm untags are smaller teams and such, do you by chance disable thier missles?

Angryjesus

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Sep 8th 2011, 2:59:27

Originally posted by Lord Slayer:

Originally posted by Angryjesus:

Originally posted by Pain:

I agree pain, they are equally bad. However if we demo'ed one of your countries 20 times and you farmed one of our tags, what do you think the outcome would be?

No I don't. Do you?

Pain

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Sep 8th 2011, 6:03:37

Originally posted by synoder:

if someone demoed me 20 times i would laugh that they wasted 14 turns ;)

actually no you only waste 12.5(13) turns technically. 7x4=72%

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Pain

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Sep 8th 2011, 6:04:39

Originally posted by Angryjesus:

Originally posted by Pain:

I agree pain, they are equally bad. However if we demo'ed one of your countries 20 times and you farmed one of our tags, what do you think the outcome would be?

did he do 20 demos? thats a noob move if he did. should have only been 7 or 8. anything past that and youre just being a fluff.

using demos to retal is different then using them to make a landgrab. if i cant grab you im not entitled to resorting to those tactics so i can grab you. however if you take my land, ill use any means necessary to get it back as you are NOT entitled to keep my land because im not able to break at 100%. im just saying. i havent been grabbed this set so i cant really complain.

Edited By: Pain on Sep 8th 2011, 6:07:22
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trumper

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Sep 8th 2011, 13:28:12

The demos may have made a difference on an earlier retal, but the last retal was a dictator rolling with 10mil jets on a ps. Even with your allies you were going to lose that one.

diez

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Sep 8th 2011, 13:32:43

TRUMPOZ

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Sep 8th 2011, 15:27:05

I like THE BORG!
btw Pain was a bit off about our clans.....
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NOW3P

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Sep 8th 2011, 19:05:02

For the record fellas, Demo != harmful op. You don't actually lose anything other than readiness, therefore it's not considered a harmful op. Harmful ops are SR/CD/Bio/etc.

I like war though, so whatever is good for you guys is good for me :-)

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Havoc

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Sep 8th 2011, 21:36:54

fluff that, if I have a better country and you can't (through economical means) break on a grab, you shouldn't be able to resort to other harmful means to make me a weaker country. I would have rather taken a nuke..

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NOW3P

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Sep 8th 2011, 22:12:49

I could arrange that :-P

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SuperFly

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Sep 8th 2011, 22:14:08

But the weaker country brought you down to his level so you are not as strong anymore. I don't know I think this might be a moral dilemma.

I vote that you FS WoG because Vilse needs to win top 10 again and the only way that he wins is if we kill his competition as his netting skills are not so good
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Havoc

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Sep 9th 2011, 0:39:00

*FSes DBD*

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synoder

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Sep 9th 2011, 1:45:43

Originally posted by Pain:

Originally posted by synoder:

if someone demoed me 20 times i would laugh that they wasted 14 turns ;)

actually no you only waste 12.5(13) turns technically. 7x4=72%

math fail! apparently I was half asleep and thought 20-7 = 14? lol

Bigwiggle

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Sep 9th 2011, 2:14:07

Originally posted by synoder:

Originally posted by Pain:

Originally posted by synoder:

if someone demoed me 20 times i would laugh that they wasted 14 turns ;)

actually no you only waste 12.5(13) turns technically. 7x4=72%

math fail! apparently I was half asleep and thought 20-7 = 14? lol

They actually wasted 20 turns :P

And demo's are a harmful op. They harm your country ... not like regular ops or military ops or ally ops. The non war ops

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SuperFly

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Sep 9th 2011, 12:42:47

Poor Havoc, not only was he demo'ed but beer missle dumped him :(

trumper

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Sep 9th 2011, 20:25:31

My point was regardless of the demos the numbers meant you weren't going to escape being retalled successfully.

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Sep 10th 2011, 0:00:22

bee deepp bee deepp ur dead

kwmi

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Sep 10th 2011, 1:04:24

what would you expect from the team that self-DRs to avoid retal =P

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Sep 10th 2011, 5:04:15

MKR's opinion is null and void in this matter - they have already lost their policy dispute process this set, and are not eligible for an appeal until next set.

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