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Jackelope

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Feb 22nd 2012, 0:16:57

I noticed i started in GDI!!
were changes posted? Didnt martian say something bout beta testing first. lol
It added 500 to expenses right off the bat so if i leave gdi... can i rejoin???

KoHeartsGPA

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Feb 22nd 2012, 0:19:18

Comfirmed!

Thank you for being a member of the GDI.
Your GDI expenses of $500 are shown within your alliance expenses

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KoHeartsGPA

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Feb 22nd 2012, 0:23:22

hmm, no option to leave GDI :<

dansteve

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Feb 22nd 2012, 0:24:26

looks like were all in GDI lol

Jackelope

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Feb 22nd 2012, 0:27:02

this is a quote from the GDI information in game:

"In addition, you will not be allowed to commit offensive acts which are not standard strikes, planned strikes, or beneficial spy ops against other countries unless they have attacked you more than once."

Did you notice how it says "beneficial spy ops against other countries"

LOL, what kinda spy ops are beneficial?
1) plant new crops?
2) kill the ex-wife?
3) put money in your banks?

i also see it says burn oil... just how much got changed here?

Jackelope

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Feb 22nd 2012, 0:29:32

i guess everyone will be going for free gdi before taking a turn, or you will be fubar in a couple hundred turns

KoHeartsGPA

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Feb 22nd 2012, 0:31:01

16 bonus pts = free GDI :)

Jackelope

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Feb 22nd 2012, 0:35:40

no option to leave GDI.. very interesting.
if you get booted, its like getting tared and feathered.. i dont think all will be happy with this change.
I wonder if its 3 or 5 attacks.. maybe just 2... ouch. this might be the end of double tapping.

dansteve

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Feb 22nd 2012, 0:36:23

i always take the extra turns.. are you better off taking something else?

KoHeartsGPA

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Feb 22nd 2012, 0:37:51

Originally posted by dansteve:

i always take the extra turns.. are you better off taking something else?

Yes, free GDI :)

Xinhuan

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Feb 22nd 2012, 0:41:04

Martian, we would like to know what changes have been implemented/not implemented, so we can plan accordingly.

KoHeartsGPA

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Feb 22nd 2012, 0:44:17

Originally posted by Xinhuan:

Martian, we would like to know what changes have been implemented/not implemented, so we can plan accordingly.

blid

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Feb 22nd 2012, 0:45:37

It really doesn't matter in Express. I'd rather have extra turns/booms than free GDI for like one day...

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

Jackelope

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Feb 22nd 2012, 0:48:49

blid are you smokin crack?
do you often join GDI before you do your start up? not sure about you... but this will definately affect my start up strat.. im glad i checked... never trust anyone :/

snawdog

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Feb 22nd 2012, 0:50:21

GDI is set long in Express...dur...we know that

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crest23

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Feb 22nd 2012, 0:57:35

Wait, people use the free GDI for their bonus in Express?

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KoHeartsGPA

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Feb 22nd 2012, 0:59:38

I'm cheap, dude :p

Jackelope

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Feb 22nd 2012, 0:59:49

I do when im running theo.
do the math.. 12,000 acres x 10=60k a turn x 800turns= 96mil

Edited By: Jackelope on Feb 22nd 2012, 1:03:00
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braden

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Feb 22nd 2012, 1:11:36

i always free gdi on any server

blid

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Feb 22nd 2012, 2:06:40

Originally posted by Jackelope:

I do when im running theo.
do the math.. 12,000 acres x 10=60k a turn x 800turns= 96mil

wtf kind of crackhead math is this? haha

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

Pain

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Feb 22nd 2012, 2:08:17

lol his end number was correct but the first part wasnt

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Pain

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Feb 22nd 2012, 2:09:26

actually isnt gdi $5 per acre?

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blid

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Feb 22nd 2012, 2:10:04

Yes. everything about that math is funky

Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

Jackelope

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Feb 22nd 2012, 2:14:06

lol.. what?? it still worked out in the end. it would be $10.00 an acre for theo... :)
12,000Ax10=120,000per turn x 800 turns(you could count more)= 96,000,000.00

blid

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Feb 22nd 2012, 2:17:50

12k * 5 = 60k, 60k * 800 = 48m

meanwhile 16 bonus points = 8 turns i think, at 12k acres that should be at least 48m in actual dollars, not to mention the value of having those dollars before taking the 800 turns and using them to boost your position in the game going forward, don't bother with free GDI in express.

edit: i guess i shouldnt say that with such finality because maybe if you're a theo casher it could be worthwhile. or if you have stocked a ton of turns when you take the bonus. either way, how you choose to spend your bonus points in express is pretty meaningless as i said originally.

Edited By: blid on Feb 22nd 2012, 2:22:39
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Originally posted by Mr. Titanium:

Watch your mouth boy, I have never been accused of cheating on any server nor deleted before you just did right there.

tduong

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Feb 22nd 2012, 5:38:26

as a casher, pci boost should make you more money than the money saved with free gdi.
You can also do in your final turn PCI boost + cash + 70% tax. That'll give you 7.2x turns of income and only 1 turn of expenses/food.
Note: you only want to double taxes on final turn.

Originally posted by blid:

I haven't had a wrong opinion in years

Xinhuan

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Feb 22nd 2012, 14:27:33

Originally posted by tduong:

as a casher, pci boost should make you more money than the money saved with free gdi.

Not really true. Your first 16 bonus points would be used on very low acres and is unlikely to earn back 96mil calculation... at least for Theos. And that 96mil was only for the last 800 turns of the reset which has 1800 turns... and only on 12k land.

16 bonus points can only buy 4 PCI Booms, which is worth 8 additional turns of production. At 96m, you would have to be cashing 12m per turn to equal it and you won't have that much land to produce that much income by the 3rd day when you have to spend your first few bonus points.

SuperFly

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Feb 22nd 2012, 15:47:09

you guys put so much thought into the little things lol

Hardy

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Feb 24th 2012, 3:48:24

And here I was, just starting up a country to kill someone for sh/ts and giggles.. Damnit.

KoHeartsGPA

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Feb 24th 2012, 3:53:24

Poor baby!

tduong

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Feb 24th 2012, 4:08:05

Originally posted by Xinhuan:

Originally posted by tduong:

as a casher, pci boost should make you more money than the money saved with free gdi.

I see 2 sides of the fence here. Yes, by calculations then you are right, it is more beneficial with free gdi. But the thing is that it is so spread out that you won't be able to take advantage of it.

You can do pci boost with the cash button. 3.6x per turn with only 1 turn of expense/food. Do that for 4 turns and receive instant cash for tech boost. That extra tech may boost you 100-200k per turn for the next 800 turns. So extra cash per turn will have a snowball affect hundreds of turns down the road which allow you to buy even more tech or more military to grab more land etc...

You can't just look at hard numbers straight from a calculator.

Originally posted by blid:

I haven't had a wrong opinion in years

Getafix

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Feb 24th 2012, 5:02:19

The big reason for getting free GDI is in the first 100 turns or so. The $500 per turn at the start was killing my growth

Jackelope

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Feb 24th 2012, 5:11:20

500 per turn at the begining is 10% more cash... thats alot more buildings, food, turrets... whats that 10% investment worth in the first 300 turns???

Getafix

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Feb 24th 2012, 5:15:10

Exactly. I went 20 turns and then quit. I waited about 36 hours until I had 16 bonus points before I took another turn.

Jackelope

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Feb 24th 2012, 5:18:12

thats exactly what i did... the gdi was killin me.

qzjul

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Feb 25th 2012, 17:15:18

um... If any changes have happened, I don't think they were supposed to be made live; pang was working on some changes for express, but I'm pretty sure those aren't done yet...

I'll get back to you guys on this as soon as I can bump into pang & martian; otherwise, I'll take a peek at the code after some errands.

Finally did the signature thing.

KoHeartsGPA

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Feb 25th 2012, 17:37:42

Then why are we all GDI?

qzjul

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Feb 25th 2012, 18:13:40

KK, somebody has butterfingers and clicked the wrong server for testing things heh; force gdi was set to yes on express instead of on an alpha server...

I HAVE **TEMPORARILY** MADE GDI FREE IN EXPRESS TO... TRY TO OFFSET THIS; Also, new starts won't start in GDI

Finally did the signature thing.