Arranged War - Earth Empires Forum

Helmet

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Jan 31st 2011, 21:27:03

So I was thinking today what would be really cool would be if we had a completely impartial third party that would just drop the bomb at some given point in the round and start the war by posting that it was go time on the AT. We could give them some parameters, like 6 - 10 weeks in to the set, between these playing times, etc.

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Junky

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Jan 31st 2011, 21:31:32

ITS GO TIME!!!!!!!!!!

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Pang

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Jan 31st 2011, 21:31:49

I'll do it if you want admin involvement...

I can generate a random integer which would correspond to a timestamp inside the window you want and then make a post at that time

you need to believe that I'm impartial though, so that's a drawback for some :p

edit:
or are you looking for someone impartial to pick a good time... like a Saturday afternoon or something, rather than a randomized 4:45 AM on a Tuesday? :p

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BobbyATA

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Jan 31st 2011, 21:40:08

that is an awesome idea! Could we even set up a forum bot explicitly for this purpose, so there is zero third party involvement?

iTavi

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Jan 31st 2011, 22:15:26

how about we set up a bot to FS another bot when a 3rd party bot says "it's go time"? :)

Detmer

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Jan 31st 2011, 22:35:53

How about you just let me do it so I can pick a time that I am around to watch the evolution of the war?

aponic

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Jan 31st 2011, 22:42:49

I like Pang picking a completely random time

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Dibs Ludicrous

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Jan 31st 2011, 22:51:51

random time for the next reset? feb to march?
Just FS on the Ides of March, it's perfect timing for a war and the decay of an empire.

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Helmet

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Jan 31st 2011, 23:05:08

Originally posted by Pang:

edit:
or are you looking for someone impartial to pick a good time... like a Saturday afternoon or something, rather than a randomized 4:45 AM on a Tuesday? :p

I think totally random is best. That's the only way we can make this war fun IMO. If you did it, I wouldn't want other admins to be able to see what you did. That's the only thing I'd be concerned about. I wouldn't care how you did it. You can throw a dart at a calender for all I care. heh I just want to put some surprise in to this war.

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locket

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Jan 31st 2011, 23:06:46

Pang wouldnt hit the calendar. His dart throwing skills are surely lacking due to his gangly nerd arms he must have as a game admin.

Helmet

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Jan 31st 2011, 23:10:05

I guess I should say the only thing we would want to stipulate as a group would probably be the range of dates that would be avaiable. If the bot randomly picked day 1 that would suck. As a group I'm hoping all parties can pick a range like week 6 to week 10, etc.

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Lord Tarnava

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Jan 31st 2011, 23:19:11

Aren't resets only about 8 weeks?

locket

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Jan 31st 2011, 23:21:42

lol week 10 war! ;) Yah im pretty sure they are 2 months so 8 weeks or so...

Helmet

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Jan 31st 2011, 23:41:50

I was just tossing numbers out of my arse for examples.

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Lord Tarnava

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Jan 31st 2011, 23:49:02

I bet you were remembering when resets were 3 months ;-) way back when. 1 turn every 40 minutes lol

Helmet

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Feb 1st 2011, 0:01:56

Ah, yeah. You're right. I hadn't thought about that.

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Ivan

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Feb 1st 2011, 0:02:32

hm kinda intresting idea

Lord Tarnava

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Feb 1st 2011, 0:09:02

I seem to recall week 6-8 wars were ideal for alliances with any semblance of netting ability

Pain

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Feb 1st 2011, 0:10:33

thats a pretty fluffin sweet idea, actually. a randomized bot would be the only trustworthy way as someone would always have doubt as to whether the third party tipped anyone off, intentionally or accidentally through conversation with a friend of a friend thats involved.

it would certainly even things out significantly as noone would know when they need to be prepared (turns wise) and could certainly give the underdog a better shot.

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Drinks

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Feb 1st 2011, 0:15:38

Simple solution pain. Always be ready haha.

(P.S i know i know your refering to teching stages etc)

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Pain

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Feb 1st 2011, 0:20:24

no im talking about playing your turns and then logging onto AT an hour later to see the call has been made haha. obviously you would have to put in some type of time frame (week3,4,5,etc) so you know when to be done with teching and begin war prep. but a lot of people could get thier pants caught down that way.

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BobbyATA

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Feb 1st 2011, 0:32:38

even if only one person knows the FS time ahead of time and they are a completely neutral third party, that doesn't seem fair to me as they could price certains techs/oil/etc. based on their knowledge that nobody else has. IMO randomized bot that can access forums on its own and post message. I mean you nerds made bots that could play the game, I'm sure we can get a bot to do this...

anoniem

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Feb 1st 2011, 1:28:11

even if the numbers were even on both sides, the war would be favoured toward sof, as they are one entity.

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Lord Tarnava

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Feb 1st 2011, 1:30:08

Give the other side. 10-15% numbers advantage then

BobbyATA

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Feb 1st 2011, 1:38:17

anoniem that has nothing to do with this thread...

hanlong

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Feb 1st 2011, 1:51:24

yah it makes sense if its a feasible range.

if the random num generator ended up on the first day or last day, that would suck

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Thomas

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Feb 1st 2011, 1:56:52

Originally posted by anoniem:

even if the numbers were even on both sides, the war would be favoured toward sof, as they are one entity.

Not just the 1 entity, but fighting 3 netting clans is going to end up with more inactives and fewer people restarting than SoF, which is all about warring :P

aponic

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Feb 1st 2011, 2:11:04

Indeed anoniem/thomas, the numbers would have to be favorable to SOFs opposition, we were thinking somewhere in the 120% range.

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Helmet

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Feb 1st 2011, 13:08:59

So what does everyone think of this? I just think planned wars are so boring. This would add some needed excitement.

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Garry Owen

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Feb 2nd 2011, 5:30:51

Very cool idea.

I also hate planned 'friendly' wars.... this would make it more interesting.

Maybe add in a planned stop time... either say 5 days from start time, or a random time in a 4-8 day window.

AxAlar

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Feb 2nd 2011, 6:45:17

*grumbles*

I still wanted just NM+SancT vs SOF, with us having an FS time whenever we wanted :P

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enshula

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Feb 2nd 2011, 7:17:43

what about using a mean time to happen type?

anoniem

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Feb 2nd 2011, 9:38:09

Bobby: My point has everything to do with this thread. I think that warring one entity is a lot harder when your team is a 'fragmented' group, so having a random FS time would make it twice as hard for the opposition of SoF.

There's no need to dismiss my point of view when you haven't even thought it out.

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paladin

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Feb 2nd 2011, 10:49:55

Originally posted by Helmet:

This sounds neat. I think I would like to volunteer if you are interested.

As for my impartiality. I haven't actively played more then 3 weeks in the last year. And I haven't involved in the games politics since shortly before EE started up. And I generally don't have a history fluffing people over (except for the 1 incident of pact breaking I was part of in 1a).

BTW who all is invovled in this war.

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BobbyATA

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Feb 2nd 2011, 15:22:16

I didn't dismiss your point of view, I said what you posted had nothing to do with this thread. It didn't... What you posted in the second post is relevant, but that doesn't change that the first post was irrelevant...

Helmet

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Feb 3rd 2011, 20:52:45

Does nobody in this war read these forums?

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Murf

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Feb 3rd 2011, 21:16:19

lol i try and avoid AT :p

crazyserb

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Feb 3rd 2011, 23:55:02

pretty cool idea....

Makinso

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Feb 4th 2011, 0:30:36

Ill not let SOL do this.

People would claim us to be biased :-P LoL. Let's not get into that. Fun idea though.

ponderer

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Feb 4th 2011, 2:15:05

I see now reason why the three alliances can't share a war chat, or even a boxcar site. Omega has done so with other alliances many times over the years.

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SakitSaPuwit

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Feb 4th 2011, 4:29:39

you all ready have a third group that would work great,
and would add all sorts of randomness, if you would stop trying to suppress them,

about half of this server is UnTagged,
instead of trying to take away any chance that they have, I suggest that you try to embrace them!!!

Edited By: SakitSaPuwit on Feb 4th 2011, 4:32:04. Reason: Drunk, and posting
See Original Post

but what do i know?
I only play this game for fun!

SakitSaPuwit

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Feb 4th 2011, 4:30:39

Dude if you want to make some money from this talent let me know, I would be happy to pimp you out!

Originally posted by Helmet:

I was just tossing numbers out of my arse for examples.

but what do i know?
I only play this game for fun!

Shinigami

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Feb 4th 2011, 15:48:19

Hell, I think it's an awesome idea. It's almost a shame I'll be watching this fight instead of joining in on one side or the other.

Helmet

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Feb 4th 2011, 16:47:33

It looks like they already agreed to a date and time, but if everyone wants to go random I'm sure we could change it.

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Lord Slayer

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Feb 5th 2011, 5:02:41

Helmet,

I'd be all for the random. Give maybe a 2 week period for it to happen, at a set time, say 8pm server time or something*still don't know what game time is now* and each day, the alliances logging in to see if it's go time!

I already assume 90% of SOF will be on with a months notice of war date. Hitting a ton of online SOF'ers durring a FS is gonna get old:P

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Helmet

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Feb 5th 2011, 15:51:38

Yeah, that's my problem with it. It's just going to be stonewalling like crazy. Why have a set time like 8pm? I think you just go totally random other than a time frame for the DAY that it starts. I don't see it as a negative if both sides have to scramble. That would be exciting.

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Xliest

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Feb 5th 2011, 16:07:56

No a day is even too narrow, even i can take a day off work if i know there will be war at some point in it...

give the week say week 3, feb 25 - march 4 have have RNG do work in there.

Helmet

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Feb 5th 2011, 16:45:18

I didn't say a certain day, I said a time FRAME for the day that it starts. I meant we pick a range like week 3 to 5 and the date and time are determined by an outside party.

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Lord Slayer

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Feb 6th 2011, 6:00:12

Hrmm I'm starting to like that idea even a bit more after first thought. Just a boom, your in war, so whoever can scramble the quickest has a slight advantage